Crooked Deal on Scott County hospital
Sparky

Wartburg, TN

#43 Jan 30, 2013
When's the next election? I think if they can't fix the problem we can change the leadership and put some people in who can get the ball a rolling?
smh

Lancing, TN

#44 Jan 31, 2013
little bit wrote:
the mayorof scott county don,t bother to tell the good people of scott county that when hospital is closed for one year it can never be reopened. So the mayor has to live with this, and watch people of scott county die.
THis was announced a long time ago.
DEEDEE

Helenwood, TN

#45 Jan 31, 2013
Channel 10 news crew is at the hospital, wonder why?
Taxpayer

Wartburg, TN

#46 Feb 1, 2013
Plans to reopen Scott County's hospital are still up in the air.

Sawyers said on Thursday that his attorney had not submitted the proof to the Tennessee Attorney General's office yet.

If an agreement is not reached by the deadline, Jan. 31, one or both parties can agree to withdraw from the purchase agreement.

A special meeting will be held on Monday at 5 p.m. to decide how the county would like to proceed.

GET THE MESSAGE TO THE COMMISSIONERS-CANCEL THE CROOKED DEAL AND GET A REAL HOSPITAL SYSTEM -

these crooks couldn't run a dog house
someone

Briceville, TN

#47 Feb 1, 2013
Sure to goodness the commissioners and count mayor have a good back up plan (and I would even hope an excellent back up plan) if the promen deal falls through. If not, our supposedly county leaders need to be run out of town on a rail. We need a full functioning hospital. True leaders would have been working on this 2 years ago, not wait until the last minute. How many more needless deaths will occur trying to get to a 30+ min in travel hospital just because we have leaders that do not know what the h3?l they are doing. We need more leaders like the Boyatt guy....no I do not know him but I do read the paper and listen to the WBNT news. Oh yeah, I also stayed at Holiday Inn last night...
po boy

Briceville, TN

#48 Feb 1, 2013
someone wrote:
Sure to goodness the commissioners and count mayor have a good back up plan (and I would even hope an excellent back up plan) if the promen deal falls through. If not, our supposedly county leaders need to be run out of town on a rail. We need a full functioning hospital. True leaders would have been working on this 2 years ago, not wait until the last minute. How many more needless deaths will occur trying to get to a 30+ min in travel hospital just because we have leaders that do not know what the h3?l they are doing. We need more leaders like the Boyatt guy....no I do not know him but I do read the paper and listen to the WBNT news. Oh yeah, I also stayed at Holiday Inn last night...
I 100% agree with you. What have we got for leaders of Scott Co.--not much. I have a wife with heart problems and if we do not get a hospital pretty soon I will move away. Paramedics and EMTs are alright for getting you to a hospital if it is a few minutes away but in no way replaces doctors, nurses, and other health care workers. I really hope we have some smart people that will run for commissioners and county mayor and replace what we have now. This is so sad. Are we really paying these inept county servants?
Taxpayer

Wartburg, TN

#49 Feb 1, 2013
You have a chance..coming up Monday night! It's not rocket science folks! We can all see how this company would run a hospital...so far..more deceit and trying to crook a little more. Honest folks from this county deserve a lot better. If we are gonna have a county in a couple of years we need to demand better!

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to have to demand a better plan and not give our future health for generations to a bunch of two bit Venture Capitalists from outta state!

The people of this county deserve better! Either call Huntsville or your Commissioners and demand better or settle for nothing.

I still have hope that enough of our politicians care enough about our counties future to try another system. If not, well they don't need to be there. You can either try to make things better or you can set back and settle for nothihng!

Send the crooks outta town on a rail! Most of our people here want and deserve better! I guarantee you someone will be interested in that hospital that serves 3 counties with Obama Care coming in in 1 year! Don't see how they can't make money but we need to choose a company that wants to put helping our people first!

Well it's up to you folks! Make your voice heard or settle for nothing!

Just my two cents anyways!
Stupid

Wartburg, TN

#50 Feb 1, 2013
Give it away! Give them some more! They care!

They will be here 2 years from now! They won't sell your hospital for scrap n build a flea market!

Them Venture Capitalists love your county n your favorite educated politicians! They'll take good care!

Love you! Dummy! Send me all your money!
Provisional

Oliver Springs, TN

#51 Feb 1, 2013
little bit wrote:
the mayorof scott county don,t bother to tell the good people of scott county that when hospital is closed for one year it can never be reopened. So the mayor has to live with this, and watch people of scott county die.
tthe mayor is doing a good job for the county. He. Cannot vote his job is to mediate and the county commissioners r the ones that make the decisions. Ppl need to listen to the meetings. The attorney said at the last meeting that if they started negocistions all over it would cost th even more and he is not cheap. I am not datisfyied with this company but we will have to see Monday won't we?
Taxpayer

Wartburg, TN

#52 Feb 2, 2013
Provisional wrote:
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The attorney said at the last meeting that if they started negocistions all over it would cost them even more and he is not cheap.
Grandpaw always said when you do something, do it right the first time. Maybe the county better take some time and spend some money if that's what it takes to get a good, quality hospital system that will be here for the long run instead of cutting, bailing and selling the county tax payer property in 2 years? Where's that leave you? Maybe they should have spent a little money up front and researched this company?

How much will it cost in 2 years to start over or to not have the option to start over when this place cuts, bails and runs with all the booty in the bag? What will it cost this county in funds then and how many lives in the future could be lost here without a hospital? In the future how many business will look at locating here when they can't provide insurance to employees due to no hospital? How much does that cost?

Insanity was defined by Albert Einstein as "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Who did the research on this company and it's background before the vote? Who's job was that? Nobody answered for me why these Venture Capitalists were selected over a reputable Hospital system?

There's an old saying has to do with being crooked, first time shame on you. 2nd time, well shame on me for letting it happen. How many times is this county gonna run back to the crooks and ask for another helping? Didn't we get enough the last 3 times and over the last several months? Problem is they think they have the county over a barrel.

I guess they expect our commissioners to be on bended knee Monday night and begging them to take the deal? You make a deal with the devil, you are gonna pay for the results.

Yes, we will see monday night! The people of this county are not blind so I have a feeling all our county politicians will see come next election so I hope they enjoy their stay and cut all the deals they can.
Watcher

Oneida, TN

#53 Feb 2, 2013
Does anyone else find it interesting that people post half truths or rumor rather than watching or attending the meetings and getting the facts.

The covenants concerning Medicare accreditation and usage of the Hospital (remaining either an acute care of critical access facility) will remain in force for six years, while the covenants against the subdivision or parceling of the property, as well as the sale or mortgaging of the facility, will expire in two years.

What Sawyers was trying to get amended was the ability to mortgage the property, which he had himself earlier last year told the commissioners wouldn't be a problem since they would need at least three years of operation and profitability before anyone would loan money. Apparently he had not discussed this with his investors.

As Hyne pointed out, though they say this could not happen, we all know that there is always the potential that someone or some organization could be found to loan money on the property. Then if SM Promen folds within the first two years the county would have to pay off the debt in order to get the property back to try and attract another operator.

If you review the meetings, you will find it was the public in attendance during the presentations that swayed the commissioners in their decision. Both SM Promen and the private group (before they withdrew) received cheers and clapping while Pioneer received boos.

I agree that Sawyers has misrepresented the fact to the commissioners about having the necessary operating funds available. He actually only had promises of the available funds pending the Asset Purchase Agreement.

As hindsight is 20/20, I am sure that many of the commissioners would have remained in support of Pioneer if they had known SM Promen was going to drag their feet on committing the funds.

Most all of the discussion during the presentations was of an October or November 'soft opening' of the hospital, which we now know was a pie in the shy target. Even if the deal is signed on Monday, we are still months away from normal operation.

And for those wondering about Tennova, they never had any interest in our hospital and wanted to sell their provider number for a profit to the next operator. To throw out accusations of commissioners wanting bribes is just ridiculous.

Scott County needs a hospital and the commissioners are doing what they think is in the best interest of the county.
Welp

Wartburg, TN

#54 Feb 2, 2013
Let's see they made a decision about what company to go with based off how loud the people that attended a meeting cheered.. that says a lot!

It's been one lie or excuse after another since May from this company. Do you want them managing your care if you go to the ER? You can wear those Rose Colored glasses if you want.

Cancel the deal and get a legitimate company! If not in 2 years we are all back to square one. I don't care if it takes a couple more months or costs a little more money as long as we have an honest, legitimate company that's not here for a handout!

The time that has been wasted pandering to these liars we could have had a good company in and the doors would have been opened months ago!

Since you know so much, explain to me why Jamestown Hospital is thriving? We serve more counties and have a larger population? I would be interested to here what the difference is?
soggybottoms

Pine Knot, KY

#55 Feb 2, 2013
Jamestown is not thriving and they are worrying about HMA closing them down and if they were thriving it is only because we don't have a hospital. It doesn't matter what company owns the hospital, it is the people that take care of you while you are in the hospital. Everyone was happy that St. Mary's came in but the same people worked there as with the other companies and St. Mary did not do the community any favors. Yes, the employees want their jobs back but they also want one for the community so people don't have to go soo far.
bull

Wartburg, TN

#56 Feb 2, 2013
Watcher wrote:
Does anyone else find it interesting that people post half truths or rumor rather than watching or attending the meetings and getting the facts.
The covenants concerning Medicare accreditation and usage of the Hospital (remaining either an acute care of critical access facility) will remain in force for six years, while the covenants against the subdivision or parceling of the property, as well as the sale or mortgaging of the facility, will expire in two years.
What Sawyers was trying to get amended was the ability to mortgage the property, which he had himself earlier last year told the commissioners wouldn't be a problem since they would need at least three years of operation and profitability before anyone would loan money. Apparently he had not discussed this with his investors.
As Hyne pointed out, though they say this could not happen, we all know that there is always the potential that someone or some organization could be found to loan money on the property. Then if SM Promen folds within the first two years the county would have to pay off the debt in order to get the property back to try and attract another operator.
If you review the meetings, you will find it was the public in attendance during the presentations that swayed the commissioners in their decision. Both SM Promen and the private group (before they withdrew) received cheers and clapping while Pioneer received boos.
I agree that Sawyers has misrepresented the fact to the commissioners about having the necessary operating funds available. He actually only had promises of the available funds pending the Asset Purchase Agreement.
As hindsight is 20/20, I am sure that many of the commissioners would have remained in support of Pioneer if they had known SM Promen was going to drag their feet on committing the funds.
Most all of the discussion during the presentations was of an October or November 'soft opening' of the hospital, which we now know was a pie in the shy target. Even if the deal is signed on Monday, we are still months away from normal operation.
And for those wondering about Tennova, they never had any interest in our hospital and wanted to sell their provider number for a profit to the next operator. To throw out accusations of commissioners wanting bribes is just ridiculous.
Scott County needs a hospital and the commissioners are doing what they think is in the best interest of the county.
You are quite educated. Your explanations are correct and full of facts. You also talk too much.
Howdy

Wartburg, TN

#57 Feb 3, 2013
soggybottoms wrote:
Jamestown is not thriving and they are worrying about HMA closing them down and if they were thriving it is only because we don't have a hospital. It doesn't matter what company owns the hospital, it is the people that take care of you while you are in the hospital. Everyone was happy that St. Mary's came in but the same people worked there as with the other companies and St. Mary did not do the community any favors. Yes, the employees want their jobs back but they also want one for the community so people don't have to go soo far.
Jamestown Regional Medical Center

Vision: Create a template for the future of rural health care delivery in the United States.

Jamestown Regional Medical Center is a Joint Commission-accredited, 85-bed hospital that provides health care services for Fentress County, Tennessee, and the surrounding communities. The facility is equipped with some of the finest technology available in health care. The surgery center has four surgical suites. The emergency department features 24-hour emergency services and the latest technology to meet the community's needs, including two trauma bays and seven private exam rooms.

Expansion;
The groundbreaking took place on November 11, 2009, Veteran's Day. Opening will be August 1, 2011.

BWBR Architects, St. Paul, MN, have designed a state of the art hospital that allows for future expansion.


Sounds pretty thriving to me?
resident

United States

#58 Feb 3, 2013
Sparky wrote:
When's the next election? I think if they can't fix the problem we can change the leadership and put some people in who can get the ball a rolling?
I think elections are arranged. This county is so sad.
soggypants

Pine Knot, KY

#59 Feb 3, 2013
Was just there Back in November for surgery and I was told that they weren't doing good and that they was worried that HMA would close them down.
disgusted

Charlotte, NC

#60 Feb 4, 2013
I agree we need to get rid of Jeff tibbals and all the other officials.they have done nothing for the county. We have a great small town but no jobs or hospital that sucks. We need a change
betch ya

Saluda, SC

#61 Feb 5, 2013
Jamestown tn hospital is more expensive than going to cookeville tn hospital.
On most, if not ALL services.

My question to scott county folks, why can the state force you to build a jail, but you get nothing when you need an hospital...
Howdy

Wartburg, TN

#62 Feb 6, 2013
Well here you go again taxpayers. Put out for another month. They vote again in February if they can't come up with the funds. SM Promen has been trying to come up with the funds they promised the county they had in hand since last May. How many months and still no funds. If they can't come up with money to buy it how will they have money to run it?

Comissioner's gave them an extension cause they didn't want to give another company a chance cause "it might cause further delay?"

Most hospitals get huge grants and funds free of charge from the Government just to be open in a underserved area and to serve medicare pt's so it would be pretty hard for any hospital to lose money.

Small county hospital in Jamestown with less population has the funds to put in a multi million dollar expansion and renovation when their population is much smaller and mainly serves one county when ours served three?

Something just smells a little fishy to me!
Where's all that money been going? Wouldn't have been to cheap skate venture companies voted in by previous Commissioner's who come in like vultures and drain it for all they can then bust out and run? Could they be putting your healthcare in the hands of another vulture venture capitalists company?

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