Hospital shut down

[yes]

Older and Wiser wrote:

<quoted text>I would suggest dozing it down then, cause I DON'T want my taxes raised again to be poured into a sink hole that isn't going to be managed right at the county level, as of yet it hasn't been. Now on another note If the hospitals been leased and not sold in the past. What has the money been spent on, has ALL been put back into Medical care fore the county?

I am starting to think your screen name isn't very accurate at all. Maybe the older part, but not the other.

The money that came from the LEASE is not required to be used for healthcare in the county. Only if the facility is SOLD.

But, for the past 3 years, the county has leased the building FOR FREE, so there have been no proceeds made from it.

In the past, Attentus and CHS paid the county money to lease the facility. I do not know what that money went to. See, I'm not afraid to admit when I know something...

[Hmm]

Older and Wiser wrote:

<quoted text>I would suggest dozing it down then, cause I DON'T want my taxes raised again to be poured into a sink hole that isn't going to be managed right at the county level, as of yet it hasn't been. Now on another note If the hospitals been leased and not sold in the past. What has the money been spent on, has ALL been put back into Medical care fore the county?

You know now there is a good question, but not because of the hospital. The County owns the ambulance service which does make money. Money that is folded back into the budget and helps balance it. That is also a medical service of the county is it not? Why do the same rules not apply to that?

[the shizit]

this goes back farther than this bunch of commisners this goes back years

[Football Fan]

Older and Wiser wrote:

<quoted text>I would suggest dozing it down then, cause I DON'T want my taxes raised again to be poured into a sink hole that isn't going to be managed right at the county level, as of yet it hasn't been. Now on another note If the hospitals been leased and not sold in the past. What has the money been spent on, has ALL been put back into Medical care fore the county?

Money from leasing the hospital can be spent at the county's discretion.

[Football Fan]

Money from the hospital lease has typically gone to balance the budget, making additional expenditures possible without raising the tax rate. That's one area where the commission has really screwed up in years past. At least part of that money should've gone into a reserve fund that would be used for nothing except to make improvements to the building. That didn't happen.

[Older and Wiser]

Football Fan wrote:

Money from the hospital lease has typically gone to balance the budget, making additional expenditures possible without raising the tax rate. That's one area where the commission has really screwed up in years past. At least part of that money should've gone into a reserve fund that would be used for nothing except to make improvements to the building. That didn't happen.

When a building is leased it is the leasers responsibility for the upkeep, they are the ones causing the wear and tear on the property. You said the money from the lease could be used for whatever. How can this differ if the property has been sold?

[Older and Wiser]

yes wrote:

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I am starting to think your screen name isn't very accurate at all. Maybe the older part, but not the other.
The money that came from the LEASE is not required to be used for healthcare in the county. Only if the facility is SOLD.
But, for the past 3 years, the county has leased the building FOR FREE, so there have been no proceeds made from it.
In the past, Attentus and CHS paid the county money to lease the facility. I do not know what that money went to. See, I'm not afraid to admit when I know something...

Alas, wise enough to get some interesting comments, true or not remains still to see...

[poe]

Older and Wiser wrote:

<quoted text> Alas, wise enough to get some interesting comments, true or not remains still to see...

Making the same hard-headed comments over and over, hoping for a different response does not equate to being wise.

[Hmm]

Older and Wiser wrote:

<quoted text>When a building is leased it is the leasers responsibility for the upkeep, they are the ones causing the wear and tear on the property. You said the money from the lease could be used for whatever. How can this differ if the property has been sold?

Wow wiser definantly does not apply. It's law that a leaser has to keep up a property for a leasee. Try renting an apartment out without proper plumbing or heat in the winter. And transfer of govt assets is a very complicated thing. Thats why the county will often rent a charitable group a building for a dollar rather than give it to them outright. Once a property belongs to the county govt returning it to a "public" owner is very complicated and regulated closely to prevent abuse.

[Older and Wiser]

poe wrote:

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Making the same hard-headed comments over and over, hoping for a different response does not equate to being wise.

poe your just poo!

[grrrrr]

the shizit wrote:

this goes back farther than this bunch of commisners this goes back years

It may go back further than these commissioners and mayor BUT it happened (closed) on their watch and us voters will remember that. Scares me to death to think I will have to drive or be driven by an ambulance all the way to Jamestown, Lafollette, Somerset, Oak Ridge or Knoxville to a hospital I do not trust or know much about. Scott Co. hospital had some one that worked there from just about every family in the county. We knew the ends an outs of it and trusted the employees there because of it. We knew the bad employees were weeded out and good employees were kept. In these other hospitals, we do not know a thing about the facility or the staff. PLEASE encourage you local commissioner to do better...We can re-open our hospital and make money also if it is ran with the mission of making our patient care first and foremost and with the blessing of our Lord Jesus Christ. The flagpole prayer Wednesday night was a loving beginning even if it was the end for the present. Call your commissioners and remind them this terrible thing happened ON THEIR WATCH. They can turn the reputation around by re-opening our hospital to a full care medical institution and not "just" and urgent care.

[grrrrr]

OOOps I meant "their" reputation instead of the reputation.

[Older and Wiser]

Hmm wrote:

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Wow wiser definantly does not apply. It's law that a leaser has to keep up a property for a leasee. Try renting an apartment out without proper plumbing or heat in the winter. And transfer of govt assets is a very complicated thing. Thats why the county will often rent a charitable group a building for a dollar rather than give it to them outright. Once a property belongs to the county govt returning it to a "public" owner is very complicated and regulated closely to prevent abuse.

No. It depends upon the content of the lease, does it not, a contract of any kind once it has been signed is usually binding. Remember the term always read the fine print, but anyway the hospital is now closed not to my liking, is it now considered still a hospital, or a building to be sold or leased, legalities, legalities. Can words be used to profit the county, are our elected officials smart enough to use the law to be of benefit the county this time? Raise taxes, I want no part of that, but I'm curious as to how they'll handle this scenario yet another time with new names in the same ole parts!

[uuhhh]

KGC wrote:

The county could save several hundred thousand dollars per year by getting rid of a few cops. Every time I drive 5 miles I see at least three or four driving around. Yet we still have all of the drugs, property theft and other crime. Hell McCreary county only has a Sheriff and deputy and we have more crime than they do. A friend of mines home was broken into the cops came to "investigate" my friend asked them about taking finger prints and the responce from the police was that they don't do that!

I guess the reason McCreary has only a Sheriff and deputy is cause all their bad people come down here to do and sell their drugs, property theft and other crime. Take the 5 from Pine Knot just arrested for theft from our Wal-Mart (check today's news on www.hive105.com ), for instance.

[poe]

Older and Wiser wrote:

<quoted text> poe your just poo!

Thank you for further proving my point, oh wise one.

You know, for someone who doesn't have time to go to county commission meetings (As you said in a previous post), you sure do seem to have quite enough time to get on topix and spew a bunch of idiocy.

[Older and Wiser]

poe wrote:

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Thank you for further proving my point, oh wise one.
You know, for someone who doesn't have time to go to county commission meetings (As you said in a previous post), you sure do seem to have quite enough time to get on topix and spew a bunch of idiocy.

wiser one, are you really in north carolina? What has been signed in these lease/ sells contracts we will probably never know, but I know that the words and how they were worded and signed carryeverything in a court of law. Whats been said in these comments means nothing, unlees that person was there or helped author the document. Remember I can be in timbuckto an comment on this site!

[uhmm]

Tell me...because the County OWNS the hospital, are all contracts/documents past and present supposed to be open to the PUBLIC? Just wonderin...

[citizen]

Can't tell me that this county is poor and don't have the money to keep the hospital, just go down in the town of Huntsville and look at all the people who can afford to buy tickets to go on brimestone but yet they can't afford taxes to keep the hospital open. And where is all the money that this was going to bring into SC?

[Hmm]

citizen wrote:

Can't tell me that this county is poor and don't have the money to keep the hospital, just go down in the town of Huntsville and look at all the people who can afford to buy tickets to go on brimestone but yet they can't afford taxes to keep the hospital open. And where is all the money that this was going to bring into SC?

I'd say its in Mark Love and Hoagie's bank account.

[stoner]

Maybe it is time to change things in scott county