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Ohio Wrangler

Uniontown, OH

#1 Jan 7, 2010
Here we have another idiot senator wanting to add more punishment to sex offenders. Does the idiot stop to think that sex offenders are a lumped charge of anything from indecency to actual rape? Does the idiot stop to think that the laws we now have violate the constitution before our politicians/judges started corrupting it to suit them? Why does America discriminate against this crime??? Why does America fell that time in prison isn't enough, they must persecute the person until they die? How did we get so inhumane?
Second Thoughts

Apple Valley, CA

#2 Jan 7, 2010
Ohio Wrangler wrote:
Here we have another idiot senator wanting to add more punishment to sex offenders. Does the idiot stop to think that sex offenders are a lumped charge of anything from indecency to actual rape? Does the idiot stop to think that the laws we now have violate the constitution before our politicians/judges started corrupting it to suit them? Why does America discriminate against this crime??? Why does America fell that time in prison isn't enough, they must persecute the person until they die? How did we get so inhumane?
Speaking of inhumane, there's one person that you're forgetting about...the victim. Their Constitutional Rights were violated first...by the offender. They were inhumanely treated...by the offender. The crime against them won't suddenly disappear when the offender goes to jail. The sentence imposed upon them will be for life. The only ones who want to corrupt the laws to suit them is the criminals. They think that they can violate and destroy a person for the rest of their natural life and once the criminal serves their term that everything is over. How about it being over for the criminal when it's over for the victim? How does it feel to have a self-imposed victimization? They did the action, now they need to accept the punishment they inflicted upon themselves.
Ohio Wrangler

Uniontown, OH

#3 Jan 8, 2010
I have not forgotten the victim. I was one. Yes I still have times I recall the ugliness, and I still believe that this country is over reacting and over punishing many who are labeled sex offenders. The truly violent, the repeat offenders must be kept away from society. But so many are first time, non-violent, boyfriend-girlfriend, p ing in public. We cannot continue to lump them all together. At least we should increase the tiers for the offense so it would seperate the degree of the offense.
Second Thoughts

Apple Valley, CA

#4 Jan 8, 2010
The law is the law. If two kids can violate the law in the name of "love", how many can go on later in life violating that same law, or different one's and then look for other excuses to justify their actions?

Since: Jan 10

AOL

#5 Jan 8, 2010
Second Thoughts wrote:
<quoted text>Speaking of inhumane, there's one person that you're forgetting about...the victim. Their Constitutional Rights were violated first...by the offender. They were inhumanely treated...by the offender. The crime against them won't suddenly disappear when the offender goes to jail. The sentence imposed upon them will be for life. The only ones who want to corrupt the laws to suit them is the criminals. They think that they can violate and destroy a person for the rest of their natural life and once the criminal serves their term that everything is over. How about it being over for the criminal when it's over for the victim? How does it feel to have a self-imposed victimization? They did the action, now they need to accept the punishment they inflicted upon themselves.
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You have the analysis a bit askew. You say that the perpetrator ".. violated the constitutional rights of the victim."
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That's not quite true. The purpose of the United States Constitution is to protect its citizenry from the tyranny of the government. A private individual, acting on his own, without the color of authority, cannot violate any constitutional rights.
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The rights that were owned by the victim and violated by the perpetrator were simply human rights, as mentioned in the preamble to the Constitution. It is therefore the DUTY of the government to protect the human rights of the victim by providing legislation preventing actions that would encroach upon the victim's rights to his/her life, liberty and/or the pursuit of happiness.
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That makes it incumbent upon the legislature to pass laws preventing assaults of this nature, by understanding the acts of the perpetrators, and then when law enforcement can attain the same understanding it's up to the law enforcement people to make a competent investigation of the act, then bring the actors to the judiciary, where they can be judged. The weakness of the system is that each of them,(the legislature, the cops, and the judiciary), suffers from the sympathetic human mallady of putting themselves into the positon of the criminal, rather than the victim. None of them understands the victimology or the psychological impact on the victim of the human rights violation.
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By the same token, none of them have proper training in the criminal psychology of the perpetrator, and very few of them are able to empathize with the victim. They simply cannot accept that the perpetrator suffers from a psychosis that has no known cure. Years ago, the movie "A Clockwork Orange" was made which demonstrated the contemporary treatment of similar perpetrations in Europe. As with any treatments offered today,(you can imagine how much they've changed with the passage of time), failure is the norm, and no real successes have been recorded.(to be continued on next posting)

Since: Jan 10

AOL

#6 Jan 8, 2010
Hence, the only viable answer for the legislature to deal with this kind of crime, is to dealve into the issues as they are found in the real world, and pass laws that will protect the human rights of the victims, while offering some degree of protecting the strict Constitutional Rightsof the perpetrators.
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When the law enforcement community is always in the act of anticipating the perpetrator's defense responses, and the judiciary is never willing to take the accused home for a weekend, but still offers a venue for the wildest forms of excused behaviors,(mostly ecause they're thinking that the victim wasn't a member of THEIR family, Thank God!), the second chances to reoffend will be an ever present danger to every child in America.
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The entire American System of Law Enforcement and it's Judiciary
needs to wake up to these realities, and start protecting out children from these heinous monsters that are lurking because of their weaknesses. They need to OWN this problem, from the legislature's misunderstanding of the victimology to the cops who take the initial reports, to the county attorneys who fail to represent the victims, to the judges who allow experts to fool them into thinking that all is well with the world, when it's NOT!
Ohio Wrangler

Uniontown, OH

#7 Jan 8, 2010
You are so full of it, your eyes must be brown,.

Since: Jan 10

AOL

#8 Jan 8, 2010
Wow! What an intelligent response from the state where buckeyes and brains get the same Rockwell scores.

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