Parade planned for 8th of August cele...

Parade planned for 8th of August celebration2:08 pm

There are 29 comments on the News Democrat story from Aug 4, 2014, titled Parade planned for 8th of August celebration2:08 pm. In it, News Democrat reports that:

It's almost time for Russellville's 28th annual Emancipation Celebration begins on Thursday and this weekend the festival, which is better known as the "Eighth of August" will feature a parade for the first time.

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Jame Earl Ray

Rochester, KY

#1 Aug 6, 2014
When does WHITEY get is parade??????
rolling my eyes

United States

#2 Aug 6, 2014
Jame Earl Ray wrote:
When does WHITEY get is parade??????
Because that would be "racist". Blacks are always screaming that they want equal rights but they continue to expect to have all these special blacks events. So they are still segregating themselves from the rest of the population.
New in town

Madisonville, KY

#3 Aug 6, 2014
Why is August 8 such a special day to the blacks in this area anyway?

It is not connected to black history in any way that I can discover. It is not celebrated outside a handful of counties in western Kentucky centered on Hopkinsville.

I have asked several blacks and none of them know. They just say, "It is the 8th of August." A few have told me, "That was the day that the slaves were set free" but that is not right.
FIVE 0

Hopkinsville, KY

#4 Aug 6, 2014
That's the day slaves were set free in Logan, Todd, Christian and Trigg counties. August 8th 1865. Lincoln was already dead.

Also in western Kentucky and western Tennessee Hopkinsville was the center of the slave trade and slaver culture.

Ever wondered why Hopkinsville has such a huge black population in a state that is only 7% black? Hopkinsville's black population is around 35%. In 1860 agriculture was king and blacks outnumbers whites in Christian county.

A few wealthy families around here still have the old slave quarters on their property as a reminded of the good old days.
New in town

Madisonville, KY

#5 Aug 6, 2014
FIVE 0 wrote:
That's the day slaves were set free in Logan, Todd, Christian and Trigg counties. August 8th 1865. Lincoln was already dead.
I have been told that, but it is not correct. The Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to Kentucky slaves, since Kentucky never seceded from the Union.

All Kentucky slaves were freed by the 13th Amendment, along with those in Maryland, Delaware, West Virginia, and Missouri, which also were slave states but did not secede. The 13th Amendment took effect everywhere at the same time: Dec. 18, 1865.

I have also had blacks tell me that "That's the day Kentucky ratified the 13th Amendment" but that is not right either. Kentucky's legislature (made up of Unionists) refused to ratify the 13th Amendment - and did not do so until more than 100 years later, in 1976. Even then, in 1976, it was not on the 8th of August.
History Teacher

United States

#6 Aug 6, 2014
Tennessee and Kentucky, for example, have long informally recognized August 8 as the day. As early as 1875, the African American community in the vicinity of Greene County, TN had begun to hold annual celebrations on August 8th, known as the “Eighth of August Celebration” according to local accounts in The Greeneville American. Tennessee governor Phil Bredesen went a step further and signed House Bill No. 207 into law, officially recognizing August 8 as “Emancipation Day” in that state.

“… to honor and recognize the celebration of the action of Andrew Johnson, seventeenth president of the United States and then military governor of Tennessee, in freeing his personal slaves on August 8, 1863, and the significance of emancipation in the history of Tennessee.”
New in town

Madisonville, KY

#7 Aug 6, 2014
History Teacher wrote:
Tennessee and Kentucky, for example, have long informally recognized August 8 as the day. As early as 1875, the African American community in the vicinity of Greene County, TN had begun to hold annual celebrations on August 8th, known as the “Eighth of August Celebration” according to local accounts in The Greeneville American. Tennessee governor Phil Bredesen went a step further and signed House Bill No. 207 into law, officially recognizing August 8 as “Emancipation Day” in that state.
“… to honor and recognize the celebration of the action of Andrew Johnson, seventeenth president of the United States and then military governor of Tennessee, in freeing his personal slaves on August 8, 1863, and the significance of emancipation in the history of Tennessee.”
OK. So Tennessee has an "Emancipation Day" that is not really Emancipation Day. But that still does not explain how it became embedded in black culture in a handful of counties surrounding Christian County and not in other places. The first mention of it that I can find in the Hopkinsville newspaper is in 1907, when there was a "Negro homecoming celebration" in Paducah during the week of August 8.

Could it be that that "homecoming celebration" was really the origin of the tradition? And how did it come to pass that the tradition took hold in Hopkinsville and its surrounding counties, but apparently did not continue in Paducah?
Black Jesus

Hopkinsville, KY

#8 Aug 6, 2014
I wasn't born in the winter but y'all still celebrate my birthday then!
hick ross

Hopkinsville, KY

#9 Aug 7, 2014
Aug 8 1863 Andrew Johnson frees his personal slaves in Tennessee since then has been celebrated in Tennessee
Fact Check

Madisonville, KY

#10 Aug 7, 2014
FIVE 0 wrote:
That's the day slaves were set free in Logan, Todd, Christian and Trigg counties. August 8th 1865. Lincoln was already dead.
Also in western Kentucky and western Tennessee Hopkinsville was the center of the slave trade and slaver culture.
Ever wondered why Hopkinsville has such a huge black population in a state that is only 7% black? Hopkinsville's black population is around 35%. In 1860 agriculture was king and blacks outnumbers whites in Christian county.
A few wealthy families around here still have the old slave quarters on their property as a reminded of the good old days.
Blacks never out numbered whites in Christian County. According to the 1860 census, the county had a total of 21,627 people. Of those 11,637 were white and 9,990 were black or mixed race. That is 46.19 percent black. The ratio of black to white began to decline after the Civil War to the slightly less than 30 percent figure that it is today.

As to "old slave quarters" still existing on some properties, that is a myth. There are very few buildings from before the Civil War still standing. A lot of big old farm houses do have a cottage out back, but if you look at its construction materials and know something about when those materials became available, you will see that it was built well after the Civil War. The reason for the cottage being built was most often to house an elderly parent or grand parent who gave up the big house to their adult son and his wife and children. In other cases it was to house a coachman/caretaker, but that person was an employee, not a slave.
White Girl

Sarasota, FL

#11 Aug 7, 2014
Jame Earl Ray wrote:
When does WHITEY get is parade??????
It never fails every Feburary and August the racist come out, mad because the "white people" don't get a day, week, or month. What do you want to celebrate? Let's celebrate stealing this land from the Native Americans! Good idea? Maybe we can do that one month and another month celebrate the way we tore Africans from their country and forced them to work and be treated like animals. Let's celebrate the way we have treated every immigrant for hundreds if years. The way we shunned the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Hispanics. And maybe one day we can celebrate the way we turned away hundreds of foreign children. Because other than that what do you think we could celebrate? Years and years of "self-righteous" bullshit!
ShutUp

Hopkinsville, KY

#12 Aug 7, 2014
White Girl wrote:
<quoted text>
It never fails every Feburary and August the racist come out, mad because the "white people" don't get a day, week, or month. What do you want to celebrate? Let's celebrate stealing this land from the Native Americans! Good idea? Maybe we can do that one month and another month celebrate the way we tore Africans from their country and forced them to work and be treated like animals. Let's celebrate the way we have treated every immigrant for hundreds if years. The way we shunned the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Hispanics. And maybe one day we can celebrate the way we turned away hundreds of foreign children. Because other than that what do you think we could celebrate? Years and years of "self-righteous" bullshit!
Shut up you fuckinidiot!

Too bad, you are just another product of liberal revisionist history and too fuckindumb to know it.

Pitiful.
blah blah

United States

#13 Aug 7, 2014
White Girl wrote:
<quoted text>It never fails every Feburary and August the racist come out, mad because the "white people" don't get a day, week, or month. What do you want to celebrate? Let's celebrate stealing this land from the Native Americans! Good idea? Maybe we can do that one month and another month celebrate the way we tore Africans from their country and forced them to work and be treated like animals. Let's celebrate the way we have treated every immigrant for hundreds if years. The way we shunned the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Hispanics. And maybe one day we can celebrate the way we turned away hundreds of foreign children. Because other than that what do you think we could celebrate? Years and years of "self-righteous" bullshit!
Bwahahaha!!! White girl, you're the product of the same white ancestors that you're bitching about. Your ignorance is showing, you might want to tuck it back in...lololololol
White Girl

United States

#14 Aug 7, 2014
blah blah wrote:
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Bwahahaha!!! White girl, you're the product of the same white ancestors that you're bitching about. Your ignorance is showing, you might want to tuck it back in...lololololol
You're right I am the product of white ancestors. But that doesn't mean I am proud of what they did. I can't change the past, it's already happened. What's done is done. But I can work to change the future. I refuse to believe that because I'm white I'm better than ANYONE else. I don't know what makes you think the color of your skin makes you a better person.
ShutUp

Hopkinsville, KY

#15 Aug 7, 2014
White Girl wrote:
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You're right I am the product of white ancestors. But that doesn't mean I am proud of what they did. I can't change the past, it's already happened. What's done is done. But I can work to change the future. I refuse to believe that because I'm white I'm better than ANYONE else. I don't know what makes you think the color of your skin makes you a better person.
Please, shut thefuckup. You are embarrassing yourself.
White Girl

United States

#16 Aug 7, 2014
ShutUp wrote:
<quoted text>
Please, shut thefuckup. You are embarrassing yourself.
Bahahahahaha me? You are an embarrassment to America and the human race!
ShutUp

Hopkinsville, KY

#17 Aug 7, 2014
Please, Ms. white guilt, putting down whitey on your phone/computer that a white man invented.

You have no idea America's history. You are an idiot who is going to raise idiot kids.
FIVE 0

Hopkinsville, KY

#18 Aug 7, 2014
Fact Check wrote:
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Blacks never out numbered whites in Christian County. According to the 1860 census, the county had a total of 21,627 people. Of those 11,637 were white and 9,990 were black or mixed race. That is 46.19 percent black.
But you are looking at those numbers equaling 5/5 of a person when those numbers were compiled they only counted blacks as 3/5 of a person so blacks out numbered whites in Christian County in 1860.

I have also been to and seen the old slave quarters on a very prominent family farm while attending a "gone with the wind" party in the early 90s. Anyone reading this that attended that party knows what I am talking about. Blacks were also hired as "servants" for the event and dressed in period slave garb. It was a real eye opener for me and gave new meaning to the phrase "Whitest Flour in the World".
Fact Check

Paducah, KY

#19 Aug 7, 2014
FIVE 0 wrote:
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But you are looking at those numbers equaling 5/5 of a person when those numbers were compiled they only counted blacks as 3/5 of a person so blacks out numbered whites in Christian County in 1860.
I have also been to and seen the old slave quarters on a very prominent family farm while attending a "gone with the wind" party in the early 90s. Anyone reading this that attended that party knows what I am talking about. Blacks were also hired as "servants" for the event and dressed in period slave garb. It was a real eye opener for me and gave new meaning to the phrase "Whitest Flour in the World".
No. The 3/5 rule was used to apportion seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. It was not used in the Census. The U.S. Census counted individual people one by one.

And, again, what many people --even many white people-- think were "slave quarters" are provably not slave quarters. The manufactured construction materials used in those buildings were not available until about 1880. The kind of nails used is a dead giveaway to the earliest date when a building was built.
blah blah

United States

#20 Aug 7, 2014
White Girl wrote:
<quoted text>You're right I am the product of white ancestors. But that doesn't mean I am proud of what they did. I can't change the past, it's already happened. What's done is done. But I can work to change the future. I refuse to believe that because I'm white I'm better than ANYONE else. I don't know what makes you think the color of your skin makes you a better person.
Never said that I believe the color of my skin makes me a better person. And what makes you believe that I'm white? Because I called you out on your ignorance? Bye Felicia!

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