Murder on Stardust Lane

Murder on Stardust Lane

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Karlo

Fishers, NY

#1 Mar 5, 2009
This case was solved, but It came to mind recently. I think it was the early 70's.
A digruntled contractor who had claimed a home owner 'stiffed' him on money owed from building the house.
Supposedly the contractor discovered that he had cancer, and decided to take vengance on the home owner.
As I recall the contractor rammed the victim's car with his pick up, got out & shot him through the car window, in front of the victims house in the exclusive Stardust Lane neighborhood.
Dan

Angola, NY

#2 Mar 5, 2009
Karlo wrote:
This case was solved, but It came to mind recently. I think it was the early 70's.
A digruntled contractor who had claimed a home owner 'stiffed' him on money owed from building the house.
Supposedly the contractor discovered that he had cancer, and decided to take vengance on the home owner.
As I recall the contractor rammed the victim's car with his pick up, got out & shot him through the car window, in front of the victims house in the exclusive Stardust Lane neighborhood.
Did this happen in NYS, anywhere near this area ?
Gwenny

Gallitzin, PA

#3 Mar 5, 2009
Yes. Boardmanville, there was two, one was this.
Gwenny

Gallitzin, PA

#4 Mar 5, 2009
I forgot to mention that the other case remains unsolved.
Chuck

Clayton, NC

#5 Mar 7, 2009
I knew this killer. He built a chimney (brickmason) for this well-to-do guy, he gives him a bill for services, and the guy starts to chisle...Ted said he stood right there and watched him build the whole thing, and never ONCE had any objection to workmanship, etc., gets all done, and then when he knocked on the door to collect, well Ted put a bullet in 'em. He only served five years. A nice guy, really; he just snapped.
Dan

Angola, NY

#6 Mar 8, 2009
Chuck wrote:
I knew this killer. He built a chimney (brickmason) for this well-to-do guy, he gives him a bill for services, and the guy starts to chisle...Ted said he stood right there and watched him build the whole thing, and never ONCE had any objection to workmanship, etc., gets all done, and then when he knocked on the door to collect, well Ted put a bullet in 'em. He only served five years. A nice guy, really; he just snapped.
CHUCK , How about some names and dates so I can look it up,sounds interesting.Are any of them still alive today ?
Chuck

Clayton, NC

#7 Mar 9, 2009
I'll have to think awhile--mid to late 70's. Ted is as far as I know. Of course, the victim is no longer trying to "chisle" some poor guy out of his hard-earned, contracted-for money. Ted moved to PA after prison. I will have his last name as soon as I make a few calls. The victim? same. Ted was a good brickmason, and a nice guy...not one of these "ride around with a ladder" looking to screw some old person out of their cash after reading the obits of the death of their spouse, etc. We used to call them Chickenmen,'cause they were "everywhere..." like the old radio hero, "he's everywhere, he's everywhere..."
Karlo

United States

#8 Mar 9, 2009
bits and pieces trickle back to me...victim's name may have been 'Prosser' or close to it...
Dan

Angola, NY

#9 Mar 9, 2009
Chuck wrote:
I'll have to think awhile--mid to late 70's. Ted is as far as I know. Of course, the victim is no longer trying to "chisle" some poor guy out of his hard-earned, contracted-for money. Ted moved to PA after prison. I will have his last name as soon as I make a few calls. The victim? same. Ted was a good brickmason, and a nice guy...not one of these "ride around with a ladder" looking to screw some old person out of their cash after reading the obits of the death of their spouse, etc. We used to call them Chickenmen,'cause they were "everywhere..." like the old radio hero, "he's everywhere, he's everywhere..."
Thanks Chuck ...
Chuck

Clayton, NC

#10 Mar 9, 2009
I got another beauty for all...the Saga of John Riley. He used to play basketball for St Bonas back in late '60's, and he somehow got involved with Olean's minority community; By "involved" I mean to the point he started "fratnizin'" with one Jimmy Hart's "private stash" of womanhood...Jim warned 'em that she was "off limits" to John, but his lust got the best of him. Hart shot him twice with a shotgun on the porch of one of his places over on Senaca Ave. Cotton Donnely, one of the policeman (they had surrounded the place and told Hart to come out w/o the gun, hands up) and he seemed to say "no" so Cotton went up and faced him, relying on their friendship...I remember Cotton saying how scared he was, and he thought Hart was going to shoot him. Jim Hart got five years in Attica, and I understand he helped some NYSP during the Riots and got an early out...original sentence was eight years. Needless to say, Riley did not mess with anymore black girls in his quest for immortality. He wasn't very smart, nor a good BB player, either.
Dan

Angola, NY

#11 Mar 9, 2009
Chuck wrote:
I got another beauty for all...the Saga of John Riley. He used to play basketball for St Bonas back in late '60's, and he somehow got involved with Olean's minority community; By "involved" I mean to the point he started "fratnizin'" with one Jimmy Hart's "private stash" of womanhood...Jim warned 'em that she was "off limits" to John, but his lust got the best of him. Hart shot him twice with a shotgun on the porch of one of his places over on Senaca Ave. Cotton Donnely, one of the policeman (they had surrounded the place and told Hart to come out w/o the gun, hands up) and he seemed to say "no" so Cotton went up and faced him, relying on their friendship...I remember Cotton saying how scared he was, and he thought Hart was going to shoot him. Jim Hart got five years in Attica, and I understand he helped some NYSP during the Riots and got an early out...original sentence was eight years. Needless to say, Riley did not mess with anymore black girls in his quest for immortality. He wasn't very smart, nor a good BB player, either.
I found HARTS name etc. on the inmate lookup,about his crime and release date etc.Doesn't say alot on their web-site but it looks like he was released in 74 for manslaughter only..
Karlo

United States

#12 Mar 9, 2009
Was Hart's the 'shot through the door' case?

There was a 'same only different' case, years later, when Gordie Gayton was gunned down at the trailer of a girl freind, I think in Hinsdale in the mid 80's maybe...

And let's not forget the famous Leslie Emik saga, of how she shot her common law husband,(like 18 times or so) as he lay sleeping. Supposedly after years of torture and abuse. This was at Cuba Lake, I think in the 80's...
j friday

United States

#13 Mar 9, 2009
I found a link ...Leslie Emick shot Marshal Allison 12/3/83...She was convicted...and sentenced...
Dan

Angola, NY

#14 Mar 9, 2009
j friday wrote:
I found a link ...Leslie Emick shot Marshal Allison 12/3/83...She was convicted...and sentenced...
Thanks for the update on the NAME & DATE,makes a big difference when searching through them old archives.You gotta have the exact info. or nothing shows up..
Chuck

Clayton, NC

#15 Mar 9, 2009
Stardust Lane: That was one Ted Shiveley and the person that was killed was named Prosser; used to be one of the principles of the Friendship Dairy Co.; he had 2 or 3 kids. Ted originally from Ridgeway PA or thereabouts, got out, moved back. I don't think he shot Riley thru the door. It was a shotgun. He meant to kill him, and the ONLY reason he got out was because of his behavior during the Attica Riots. He still lives around Cuba, NY, now and keeps a low profile.
fred

Lowville, NY

#16 Mar 11, 2009
Chuck wrote:
Stardust Lane: That was one Ted Shiveley and the person that was killed was named Prosser; used to be one of the principles of the Friendship Dairy Co.; he had 2 or 3 kids. Ted originally from Ridgeway PA or thereabouts, got out, moved back. I don't think he shot Riley thru the door. It was a shotgun. He meant to kill him, and the ONLY reason he got out was because of his behavior during the Attica Riots. He still lives around Cuba, NY, now and keeps a low profile.
Chuck... I grew up in the neighborhood and it's nice to know that you can justify a shooting over what you believe to be "chiseling". Were you there?

The fact is Mr. Shiveley shot and killed a man; left his wife without a husband; his children without a father and left everyone else terrified.

Apparently this must all be OK, because he was a good guy who did good work. It's also apparent that Mr. Prosse must have had it coming since he lived in the "exclusive" Stardust Lane area. So... in other words, he must have been a rich chiseler and deserving of a bullet. But I guess it is all OK because Mr. Shiveley did good work unlike some of the other contractors in the area...

Well... it is so nice to hear that Mr. Shiveley is enjoying his quiet low-profile life. Isn't it wonderful that he could destroy an entire family over a couple hundred dollars...

Now that he has experience with the courts... he may just want to go to small claims next time... hmmm... that might actually make sense. Your brilliance astounds me Chuck.
fred

Lowville, NY

#17 Mar 11, 2009
Seriously Chuck... You may be the most ignorant person alive...
Chuck

Clayton, NC

#18 Mar 11, 2009
Fred, I am the 2nd most ignorant guy. This was a long time ago and I was trying to remain neutral in the whole matter...Ted was a good guy, generally, and did good work. AND said: I did the work, he checked daily, was satisfied, and then wanted to bargain over the price AFTER the contract. There was more than just one exchange between these two. Not pre-meditated murder, or he would have been sent-up for 25 years. This was more than a "small claim" matter...that's generally 15 - 25 hundred. But, here nor there, me being the 2nd, guess who is 1st?
Chuck

Clayton, NC

#19 Mar 11, 2009
Seriously Fred...You are the most ignorant person alive...I'm second.
sad but true

United States

#20 Mar 12, 2009
I remember at the time, when all the other folks were commenting on how awful the Stardust Ln. murder was. I was shocked to hear one of my neighbors (the son of a hard working contractor) who had built many, houses in Olean, comment as follows..."Good! the S.O.B. got just what he deserved!"
Aparently his father was owed many, many thousands from people who 'knew the system', that it cost a contractor more in time & lawyer fees to try to recover money owed. In most cases it was futile to go to court, and many knew it.
I dare say that at least for a while afterward, people 'paid right on time'
This is a sad case, where one man had had enough...

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