Too pretty to fly?

Too pretty to fly?

There are 2734 comments on the WTSP Tampa Bay story from Feb 21, 2008, titled Too pretty to fly?. In it, WTSP Tampa Bay reports that:

Tampa, Florida Prejudice against pretty? That's the claim from a pair of 18-year-old best friends from Oldsmar who were escorted off a Southwest Airlines plane.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WTSP Tampa Bay.

Musician

Plano, TX

#2771 Mar 14, 2008
John Tormey wrote:
Musician, you are about to find out whose team
I am on, in the subtext of this letter. I will pray for your safety when you fly Southwest. But I ask that you again please re-consider based upon word which I received last night of the now-happening FBI investigation into the threats made against the Dallas/Ft. Worth aviation whistle-blowers, relating to the Southwest cracked and uninspected planes:
http://cbs11tv.com/local/Southwest.Airlines.F...
After reading the FBI-related article, there should be no doubt as to where these threats emanated from. Please don't tell me you think these aero-mercantilists really put YOUR safety over THEIR dollar. They really don't. If I have to save lives one at a time on this issue,
I will - to which this post, I hope, should be a testament. Thankfully, the FBI saves lives too.
Thank you, and my best,
John J. Tormey III, Esq.
Quiet Rockland
I have read many of your diatribes and have found them all full of hyperbole, half truths, and misrepresentation about things that I happens to have first-hand knowledge of.

Before you make uniformed accusations that I am a representative for Southwest, feel free to browse some of the many thread here over the past several years. I have many times revealed that I am a consulting analyst who has contracted at several airlines.

BTW ... did you know that two of the Honorable Representative Oberstar's biggest contributors are Northwest Airlines and American Airlines ... and that Southwest does not contribute to Oberstar.

I wonder who your major contributors are.
Kelly

Somersworth, NH

#2772 Mar 14, 2008
I think that these girls are a a littttttle concieted... The blonde girl is pretty yet the brown haired girl is no trophy. Why would you think that you 2 are so perfect????
Jessica

United States

#2773 Mar 14, 2008
These girls are saying that there was know one that looked like them on the flight. Well they need to take a close look in the mirror because they are NOT PRETTY AT ALL.
Monica Bice

Mulberry, FL

#2775 Mar 14, 2008
how would the guy that was in the bathroom know where they were sitting, to come yell at them? There is more to this story. I hope Dr Phil takes them down a few pegs, and puts them back in their place.
Mr Dude

Denver, CO

#2776 Mar 14, 2008
Oh please. This is Ridiculous. If your behavior disrupts the flight than you get kicked off. Period. It doesn't matter how pretty or young you are. It's a safety issue and they would do the same thing to anyone. I cannot believe this has gone so far.
Amy

Saint Petersburg, FL

#2777 Mar 14, 2008
I was on a flight home from New York City with them. They sat next to my dad. Sarah had the same grey shirt dress on with leggings. I saw them on the Dr.Phil show and recognized them immediatly. They were constantly asking for things on the flight. Southwest people claimed they were loud. That i disagree with. They were not loud. They slept most of the time. But when they were awake they used profanity. They also talked about how they were going to LA to visit the PlayBoy mansion. I thought this was interesting that a couple months after our NY flight (mid December) that now we are hearing about them. I found this very interesting. Just figured I would speak my mind. Thanks
B Mac Fly

Jacksonville, FL

#2778 Mar 14, 2008
Sorry ladies, but you're not that pretty, and the truth of the matter, usually pretty women get their way. Grow up get over it, act like a lady and you'll be treated like one. I know that's probally a little bit hard for you guys, from what I saw on Dr. Phil.
B Mac Fly

Jacksonville, FL

#2779 Mar 14, 2008
Amy wrote:
I was on a flight home from New York City with them. They sat next to my dad. Sarah had the same grey shirt dress on with leggings. I saw them on the Dr.Phil show and recognized them immediatly. They were constantly asking for things on the flight. Southwest people claimed they were loud. That i disagree with. They were not loud. They slept most of the time. But when they were awake they used profanity. They also talked about how they were going to LA to visit the PlayBoy mansion. I thought this was interesting that a couple months after our NY flight (mid December) that now we are hearing about them. I found this very interesting. Just figured I would speak my mind. Thanks
So because none of them were pretty enough to get into the Mansion they decided to find another way through Publicity. I think I get where you're going. Not So Pretty After all, huh.
Pat Courtney

Denver, CO

#2780 Mar 14, 2008
I watched the Doctor Phil show, and could not believe what I was hearing. These gilrs are spoiled rottten little brats, who need to pull thier heads out of thier ass's. Listening to them talk about what had happened, I do not believe them on what had happened. When Dr Phil had questioned them, they seamed to change thier stories.
Pat Courtney

Denver, CO

#2781 Mar 14, 2008
Anyone who thinks that they are getting the attention they wanted, and to visit the playboy manision. The next thing you know is that they will be poising in Play Boy, just like Kayla is. Kayla is the other girl who claims that Southwest, hassled her because she was too pretty to fly with them. She was going from San Deago to Tuscon to go the Doctor ! What are thier no DOctors in San Deigo to go to, that you have to spend $ 200.00 dollars on an sirflight, to go to the Doctors.
Please Jennifer Anistin is pretty than thier are with out her make up on, and has more class than these girls do. Plus my sister golddens are better looking than these girls are !! Plus River would not complian about being too pretty to to fly and get all the attention that these girls are getting. River would love the attention that he would be getting, for he love to be around people.
FLSUN

Niceville, FL

#2782 Mar 14, 2008
John Tormey is killing me....is he some out of work Attorney trying to pick up cases in any blog possible? Get a freakin life John!!! I have flown SWA for years and will continue to do so. After all they ARE the safest American carrier. John, Why don't you focus your energy towards Oberstar and his Minnesota airlines Northwest that perhaps he has become to "cozy" with....check NWA contributions to Oberstar......hmmmm!
Kayla Elbert

Raleigh, NC

#2783 Mar 14, 2008
I saw the Dr. Phil show this morning. He sure did call Sarah's and Nisreen's bluff. What tickled me more was that Kyla Ebberts appeared and chastized these two girls for wanting to get their 15 minutes worth of fame. She also does not want her name to be associated with them. This was after a brief story and photos were shown of Kyla and her skanky attire that she wore on a SW flight. She was NOT booted off the flight, just asked to adjust her clothing. Also shown were Kyla's bra and panty clad photos of her playboy online spread after she gained her more than 15 minutes worth of fame by attacking SW for being "too sexy to fly." Now, talk about getting your 15 minutes of fame twice over!

Plus, when Kyla flew that now infamous SW flight that led to her first 15 minutes' worth of fame, she was on her way to Arizona for a post-op boob enlargement visit. Now, on the Dr. Phil show this morning, she showed off the results again by wearing a low cut top.

Can we say ATTENTION WHORE here?
Shame on Dr Phil

Dallas, TX

#2784 Mar 14, 2008
Shame on him for continuing to give these brats airtime. They are obnoxious and deserve nothing but a slap in the face.

GO SWA!
Musician

United States

#2785 Mar 15, 2008
FLSUN wrote:
John Tormey is killing me....is he some out of work Attorney trying to pick up cases in any blog possible? Get a freakin life John!!! I have flown SWA for years and will continue to do so. After all they ARE the safest American carrier. John, Why don't you focus your energy towards Oberstar and his Minnesota airlines Northwest that perhaps he has become to "cozy" with....check NWA contributions to Oberstar......hmmmm!
http://www.tormey.org/

Tormey's tirades don't appear to be getting any traction.

Southwest is "doing the right thing," as usual, and will work through this tough time and come out better than ever.

I saw a recent press release that indicated Southwest's future bookings have not suffered from this issue. The vast majority of their customers trust them, and their openeness in addressing their current challenge should only bolster that trust.
Musician

United States

#2786 Mar 15, 2008
S&P Holds Southwest Ratings Steady
Associated Press 03.14.08, 1:13 PM ET

NEW YORK -
Standard & Poor's Ratings Services said Friday that Southwest Airlines Co.'s recently reported maintenance issues will not affect S&P's ratings or outlook on the airline.

Federal officials fined the company $10.2 million for not complying with maintenance procedures on several of its older aircraft. Southwest removed 38 aircraft from service for inspection on Wednesday, canceling 4 percent of its flights.

Southwest operated a normal schedule the following day.

S&P said it expects the financial impact to be "immaterial relative to the company's earnings, cash flow, and liquidity." It noted, however, that if passengers started avoiding the airline because of safety concerns, it would have a more significant effect.

S&P said it is also concerned about surging fuel prices, though it noted that fuel costs affect Southwest less than other U.S. airlines because of its strong hedging program. About 70 percent of Southwest's fuel is hedged at $51 a barrel, less than half of current oil prices around $110 a barrel.
RICH HIGGINS

Cleveland, OH

#2787 Mar 15, 2008
when you act stupid you are treated that way.
remember you teach people how to treat you.
choose your friends more carefuly.
Jason Vandermark

Tampa, FL

#2788 Mar 16, 2008
Theres always two sides to a story, i think those women where being bitches to the flight crew, thats why they where treated the way they were.....
bored

United States

#2789 Mar 16, 2008

I'm to good looking to fly southwest
thats why I only fly virgin any person who is pretty should know not to fly southwest.
steve

AOL

#2790 Mar 16, 2008
Jimmy Jubes wrote:
When I first heard this story I was like stupid bitches probably work at a cosmetic counter and think they are better than flight attendants. But then I caught an interview with Sarah Williams and thought maybe the media, in efforts to sell a story dubbed "Too Pretty Too Fly", distorted the facts enough to mislead the public. After all they had an airline with a track record.
In my interview with Sarah Williams I have come to the conclusion that it was a catty power trip by flight attendants that may have caused these girls harm, cost one of them their job and wasted the time of the FBI and Police. They were picked on from the start and Sarah admits she had exchanged a swear word with a passenger but it was provoked by the flight attendant and over with.(She and two other females were waiting for the bathroom-she knocked hard on the door. When the guy came out he asked the flight attendant what the problem was and the flight attendant said "It was that little blond girl".He called her a #@$ she called him one back.) "I couldn't figure out why they didn't like us. When we came in my friend asked for a water and they snapped 'No go take a seat' and then when they passed out water they skipped over us. And after the incident with the gentleman was over they interrogated us about it to make a scene that wasn't a scene." As far as her being threatening, I hardly believe anyone feels that is the case.
She seemed really upset that the media had portrayed her as conceded. Sarah said the media asked her what she looked like (in an obvious attempt to capitalize on past Southwest encounters) and she responded "young and decent' and when they asked about the attendants "older and not like us". I personally don't know how anyone could find that offensive. I do however can see how any female who flies, has a sister who flies, mother who flies may be offended that airline can blacklist you so you can't get a flight for five days out of a LA when you live in Florida.
Finally, this case is not like the girl who was told to cover her crotch because it was lewd. It is a story of mistreatment and unprofessional employees who do not know the meaning of customer service. If you did to customers at your job what they did you would be fired. And if it was Ivanka Trump instead of an administrative assistant this had happened to you can bet Southwest would have given a formal apology and compensation.
You can hear clips of the interview on the Jimmy Jubes Show at 7pm Eastern 4pm Pacific on Talkradiox
joe southwest

Plano, TX

#2791 Mar 17, 2008
you a dumbass theres no way that southwest did anything wrong
Edward Ringwald wrote:
I think Southwest Airlines owes these two women an apology for the overall treatment they received from the moment they stepped on the plane. As for the incident on board, the two women and the man involved should have been questioned - the man who yelled at the women on board started it all. Moreover, I feel these two women were wrongly banned from flying Southwest and ought to consider seeing an attorney and bringing some kind of legal action against Southwest. Believe me, flying from Tampa to Los Angeles is a long haul.

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