Rejected Manager Cites Surprise

Rejected Manager Cites Surprise

There are 48 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Dec 20, 2007, titled Rejected Manager Cites Surprise. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Thomas, the town manager for Old Orchard Beach, Maine, was preparing to leave his post there to begin working in East Hampton as of Jan.

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East Hampton

Ellington, CT

#1 Dec 21, 2007
Maybe he had plans to do something about the JOKE of a police department and the jerk of a police cheif & the powers that be didn't want to rock the boat but continue to sanction unprofessional, inept PUNKS !
HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!!
Jeff

New Ipswich, NH

#2 Dec 21, 2007
I see you didn't get that counseling for your anger issues, eh? that really is too bad, cuz everyone and I do mean everyone, agrees you desperately need it.
surprise my foot

New Ipswich, NH

#4 Dec 21, 2007
Puhlease! The guy was not surprised - his lawyer had to be hired first to be AT the meeting to represent him. This is posturing on his part and I thank this town council for not going through with a very ill advised hire. It is disgusting that the last town council majority only voted on ONE candidate - there was no choice in the matter because they already knew this guy with the terrible reputation was the one they wanted. OOB, sorry, but you're stuck with him.
murky waters

New Ipswich, NH

#5 Dec 21, 2007
OOBs future

Cheshire, CT

#7 Dec 21, 2007
From the target of Thomas' "affection" in OOB. BTW have you ever been on the pier? It took this guy and his family 140 years, but they finally ruined OOB - and he's mad that someone wants to make it better???? Notice he's challenging the charge, not denying it. Seems to me it's probably true given my visits to OOB. You just can't even bring a family into that town anymore. K'port, yes. OOB no.

“It took people like my family 140 years to get it to this point, and there’s no way it’s going to change,” frets Golzbein, who owns the town’s (in)famous pier.“What they are trying to do is turn Old Orchard into Kennebunkport, or Ogunquit. Well, it’s not like that, and if that’s (the type of vacation) people really want, that’s where they should go.”
Golzbein says the town is facing change instigated mainly by town manager Jim Thomas, who, says Golzbein, recently accused the Pier owner of employing “whores and prostitutes,” a charge Golzbein is challenging.
BIG SHOT

Hartford, CT

#8 Dec 21, 2007
hey, you with the police dept...let it go!!!!!! more important things to worry about now without the Town manager
Personality disorder

Cromwell, CT

#9 Dec 21, 2007
East Hampton wrote:
Maybe he had plans to do something about the JOKE of a police department and the jerk of a police cheif & the powers that be didn't want to rock the boat but continue to sanction unprofessional, inept PUNKS !
HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!!
First, it's Merry Christmas. As in the celebration of our Lord and Savior that came to save all of us from our sin, even you, sir, and even whatever inept police exist everywhere. May the grace of God enter your life this year. Grace is unearned forgiveness. Receiving it is a decision each one of us must make. Providing grace to others is a gift. Second, having been served by our police department, I found them professional, competent, caring and ethical. May they continue to serve us well.
vlad

New York, NY

#10 Dec 21, 2007
Well, I bet its going to cost all of us for breaching his contract. 3 yrs at 118k = 354k. Thanks Melissa.
surplus

Cromwell, CT

#11 Dec 21, 2007
Hey Vlad, perhaps you could enlighten us then as to what was done with the 800K? surplus that was never in the approved budget for the former tc to spend at will? oh, that's right... they spent it all without the benefit of a public referendum, or vote by the people. sounds like you have a selective memory, friend.
OOBs future

Cheshire, CT

#12 Dec 21, 2007
vlad wrote:
Well, I bet its going to cost all of us for breaching his contract. 3 yrs at 118k = 354k. Thanks Melissa.
more like 5 years at 118K plus escalation. Plus slander and defamation damages. 7 figures easy. That's one way of not getting a water system. They should have kept him, but made his life a living hell - get him to leave voluntarily.

It's really time for a new Town Charter and a full-time Mayor or similar role. We just get one bad TC after another. I commend the volunteers, but they bring too much personal trash along.
Resident

Milford, CT

#13 Dec 21, 2007
First Devine and Engle vote for the town manager to hire him, then they vote to fire him. Looks like the Good Old Boys are back with a vengeance. Talk about attorney fees! Wow, thanks Meissa and Bill and Tom Cordearo! Oh, and you too Mr. Tuttle and Mr. Coff.
Darwin

California, MD

#14 Dec 21, 2007
The TC should take a page from the Chatham Party playbook and try doing what's right for the TOWN instead of playing good-ole-boy politics as usual, now tinged with revenge.

For the TC to spend time and effort undoing the good things that the previous TC did over the past 2 years is reprehensible and morally obscene.

Shame on Engle, Cordeiro, and Devine. They're showing us their backsides.
Resident

Milford, CT

#15 Dec 21, 2007
surplus wrote:
Hey Vlad, perhaps you could enlighten us then as to what was done with the 800K? surplus that was never in the approved budget for the former tc to spend at will? oh, that's right... they spent it all without the benefit of a public referendum, or vote by the people. sounds like you have a selective memory, friend.
Why don't you go to the town hall and find out for us all.
vlad

New York, NY

#16 Dec 21, 2007
Dear Surplus??
Huh?? Where does this article mention 800k? Please stick to the topic my friend.

I'm interested on what theory they claim they "voided" his contract. The 5/3 year thing doesn't seem like it would void the entire contract.
attorney

Cromwell, CT

#17 Dec 21, 2007
OOBs future wrote:
<quoted text>
more like 5 years at 118K plus escalation. Plus slander and defamation damages. 7 figures easy. That's one way of not getting a water system. They should have kept him, but made his life a living hell - get him to leave voluntarily.
It's really time for a new Town Charter and a full-time Mayor or similar role. We just get one bad TC after another. I commend the volunteers, but they bring too much personal trash along.
Mr or Mrs Thomas, shouldn't you be WORKING right now?:)
vlad

New York, NY

#18 Dec 21, 2007
OOBs future wrote:
<quoted text>
more like 5 years at 118K plus escalation. Plus slander and defamation damages. 7 figures easy. That's one way of not getting a water system. They should have kept him, but made his life a living hell - get him to leave voluntarily.
It's really time for a new Town Charter and a full-time Mayor or similar role. We just get one bad TC after another. I commend the volunteers, but they bring too much personal trash along.
I think these are words of wisdom.
surplus

Cromwell, CT

#19 Dec 21, 2007
vlad wrote:
Dear Surplus??
Huh?? Where does this article mention 800k? Please stick to the topic my friend.
I'm interested on what theory they claim they "voided" his contract. The 5/3 year thing doesn't seem like it would void the entire contract.
merely pointing out that money is going out the windows thanks to ALL, not one person. I agree tho about the 5/3 thing. usually there is a clause that one portion of the contract found to be invalid will not nullify the remaining tenants of the contract. but dont' forget that the orig employmt contract was NOT drawn up by the town's labor attorney. for whateva reason, the chatham party didn't use that firm.
surplus

Cromwell, CT

#20 Dec 21, 2007
as far as the water system goes - has it escaped everyone's notice that with a new water system comes the ability for rampant development since we still have not tightened up our zoning regs? tis better to wait and stay "dry" than let loose the develpmt disease
RD BOSS

West Hartford, CT

#21 Dec 21, 2007
Wishful Thinking...
OOBs future

Cheshire, CT

#22 Dec 21, 2007
vlad wrote:
Dear Surplus??
Huh?? Where does this article mention 800k? Please stick to the topic my friend.
I'm interested on what theory they claim they "voided" his contract. The 5/3 year thing doesn't seem like it would void the entire contract.
The Statute that references 3 years would likely be interpreted by the courts as a minimum of 3 years and not a maximum. It says "3 years and until a successor is named". If it was a max of 3 years, it would say "or" instead of "and". The statute doesn't even seem to be relevant since it speaks to roads and bridges.

And let's not forget - one party to a contract can not void that contract. A contract can only be voided by agreement of all parties to that contract - or by the courts. Given the logic expressed the other night, I can't see a court reaching the conclusion that it's not valid.

Like him or not, Mr. Thomas is going to make some money.

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