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Since: Dec 08

Marion, NC

#1 Dec 4, 2008
I wanted to see if anybody has been in that store on main street and gotten healed? Its called open hand I think. my momma, who lives with us and is in her 70's, has chronic back pain and just is in pain all the time and it breaks my heart. I heard about that place in town but I'm a bit nervous about bringing my momma there. I know they do fortune tellin and stuff with tarots and I dont want my momma to see that. it would really upset her,but if they can help ease her pain,i thought i should look into it . has anyone been in there? If so,do they keep everything private and stuff so no one sees the tarot readers and things like that? any advice would be appreciated. thank you. and does anyone know how they do the healing? with herbs or massage or something?
Open Hands

United States

#2 Dec 5, 2008
Hello was wondering! I would like to address your concerns ...

The store is called Open Hands Natural Healing and we offer several types of therapies, IE: Reiki (hands-on energy healing), massage therapy, crystal therapy, hypnotherapy, iridology, naturopathic consultations and yoga classes. We are working on being able to provide tai chi classes, acupuncture and reflexology as well. As one of the Reiki practitioners I believe Reiki would indeed help your mother's back pain. If you would come to the store, I (Carol) will be more than happy to show you the space and will even offer you a free 10-15 minute session so you could experience it for yourself, and hopefully, ease your mind about who we are and what we do here.

In regards to your statement "they do fortune tellin and stuff with tarots" that isn't entirely correct. I do what is called Intuitive Readings and they are conducted in a completely private area of the store. Explaining what an Intuitive Reading is in detail is something I would prefer to do in person, not here in this forum, and I would be more than willing to explain it fully to you should you come to Open Hands. Be assured, there is nothing your mother would see that would disturb or upset her. In fact, we do everything we can to make any and all people, regardless of their age, race, spiritual or religious beliefs, feel welcome, relaxed, and comfortable in our store because that is an intrinsic part of what natural healing is about.

We are not "weirdo new-agers" wearing turbans and 5lb. crystals around our necks. We are merely ordinary people with a deep belief that people are meant to be healthy and are ultimately responsible for their own healing. We simply help start them, work with them and encourage them along that road. Our doors are open to anyone who has questions about natural/alternative healing and we welcome you to see for yourself what is here and what we do and I sincerely hope you will take me up on my offer to do so.
gg allin

United States

#3 Dec 6, 2008
can they heal having a heavy walley?
Thosewhoknow

United States

#4 Dec 6, 2008
dear gg allin

What exactly is your response? Are you asking if the cost of the reiki is expensive? If so, the answer is no. Hope that helps you with your question.
the truth and the light

AOL

#5 Dec 7, 2008
You should see what they have in the basement(dungeon) and in the attic(behind closed doors)
Open Hands

United States

#6 Dec 7, 2008
Hello the truth and the light ...

Yes, you should see our freshly painted basement for yoga classes, special events, meetings, seminars, etc. It's really very nice and we're quite proud of the space. There is a small kitchen area and a bathroom. We also have two artist's studios downstairs as well.

But I'm confused ... I didn't even know we had an attic! I know there are lawyers' offices upstairs, a business for children's services and a man who does porcelain restoration, but the door is accessed from the Main St. sidewalk and not from inside Open Hands. The only thing I'm aware we have "behind closed doors" is a closet.
Forget it open hands

United States

#7 Dec 8, 2008
This is for "Was Wondering" who originally asked about this place. STAY AWAY and keep your mom away!!! They are advertising a PAGAN'S NIGHT OUT!!! Need I say more?
Thosewhoknow

United States

#8 Dec 8, 2008
Dear Forget it open hands,

Are you afraid of what you do not understand? Or are you really just ignorant to religion?

I really do not understand this ghost town's capability to think for them and actually go outside of their small town mentality.

Research your religious background and trace the Christianity roots.. Then get back with all of us..
Just Saying

Greer, SC

#9 Dec 8, 2008
God's Word indicates that these practices are part of Satan's strategy of evil tricks and deception, designed to lead us astray. Satan and his demons are real beings set on our destruction. Christians are warned to "put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:11-12).
“When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire [an ancient occult practice], or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination [detestable] to the LORD…”-Deuteronomy 18:9-12a
The Bible warns against the false predictions of astrology (Jeremiah 10:2; 27:9-10; Daniel 2:1-4; 4:7; 5:7-9) and repeatedly condemns the associated practice of worshipping the sun, moon and stars (or “deities or demons associated with them”)(Deuteronomy 4:19; 17:2-5; 2 Kings 21:3, 5; Zephaniah 1:5; Job 31:26-28; Jeremiah 8:1-2).
…For you have trusted in your wickedness… Therefore evil shall come upon you… trouble shall fall upon you… Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, And the monthly prognosticators stand up and save you from what shall come upon you. Behold, they shall be as stubble, The fire shall burn them; They shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame…-Isaiah 47:10-14a
The Bible says that anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord (Deuteronomy 18:10-12; 2 Kings 21:6; Micah 5:12; Isaiah 47:12; Ezekiel 13:18, 20; Acts 8:11-24; Leviticus 20:27; Exodus 7:11; Revelation 9:21; 22:15).
Revelation 21:8 says of "…those who practice magic arts …their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur… the second death" (NIV). Those who practice witchcraft (sorcery) will not inherit the kingdom of God (Galatians 5:20-21).
The Bible strongly warns people not to consult mediums and spiritists for the truth, but to inquire of God (Isaiah 8:19). Clearly, if those who practiced these arts have any power (beyond being great deceivers), it is not a gift from God (as some falsely claim).
The Bible condemns and forbids these practices several times (Deuteronomy 18:9-14; Isaiah 44:25; Jeremiah 27:9; 2 Kings 21:6; 23:24). Divination and Spiritism were despised practices of the heathens (Ezekiel 21:21; Isaiah 19:3; 1 Samuel 28). Scripture says that one of the reasons King Saul died was "because he consulted a medium for guidance" rather than God (1 Chronicles 10:13-14).
The Bible provides examples showing the folly and failures of those who claimed the ability to predict the future based on their own powers or those of spirits (Daniel 2:27, etc.). God calls the word of diviners "nonsense," "lies" and "deception" for foolish people (Ezekiel 13:8; Jeremiah 14:14; Isaiah 44:25). God said, "Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!" (Ezekiel 13:3). If an Israelite lived the deceitful practice of being a medium, it was punishable by death (Leviticus 20:27). The presence of a medium or spiritist among God's people of Israel was considered a defilement (Leviticus 19:31). All these practices take people further from their Creator, the true and living God.
We are not to look to omens or "signs" to direct our lives. The Bible reprimands people for doing this. It is an "abomination" and foolishness (Deuteronomy 18:10-12). Look to God and His instructions for life as provided in the Bible. TO DO OTHERWISE IS TO FOOLISHLY DECIEVE YOURSELF, OR ALLOW SATAN AND OTHERS TO DECIEVE YOU.
taken from christiananswers.net and of course the BIBLE!!!!
Thosewhoknow

United States

#10 Dec 8, 2008
It seems this U.S is all for corporate America... i.e... drug companies and health insurance companies, heck even BCBS offers (oh gosh watch out!!!!!!)

ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE.AND HEALING.. and

Those first owners of the lands.. ready for this?????

Native Americans, I hear have ways of healing that do not involve co-payments and deductibles....

Now does this make them or anyone who chooses to practice that " mountain healing" a ... Pagan??????

Or does it make them using what they have to create ointments and toddies?????

I know my grandmother created a toddie or two for my soar throat… worked like a charm…

Come on people of Marion, wake up... please...
Because when that 2012 time clock rolls over.... please do not mistake it for the end of the world BUT the end of the world as we have it now.....

Can you survive off the land as our parents and grandparents before us had to do? And what about medicines? Will there be witch-hunts because there are those who know what cures or soothes colds, stomachaches and so on??? Will you know what to do when you have no electricity and your ATM cards do not work?

I bet the true Pagan will. Why you ask? Because many or all pagans are very respectful of the earth and their surroundings….

Since: Dec 08

Marion, NC

#12 Dec 13, 2008
I just wanted to thank every one with their opinions. I don't believe I'll bring my momma down there. I just cant do that without telling her everything about the place., she would be very upset, she is a very dedicated christian and just wouldnt allow herself to support a pagan business. I do wish you all well.I have nothing but respect for other people's religions but one cant argue with the bible. its pretty clear on those types of things. But, we do have freedom of religion and I don't wish anything bad for anyone. I appreciate the free 'sample' but i'll have to pass on that. thank you all again. God bless! and please pray for my momma.
sayit

United States

#13 Dec 14, 2008
I am a christian also I must not be reading the same bible tho.My God dose not say to judge other people.reki is laying on of hands a healing thouch of energy like in some church's.There have been photos of energy.. a leaf cut in half... the energy photo is of whole leaf.God put all things here for us to use and enjoy for our benefit.Yoga is a exercise!!!! lol

Since: Dec 08

Marion, NC

#14 Dec 15, 2008
its the fact that one of the healers said she does 'readings' and they are having a 'pagan' night. that would mean its a pagan run business. i have nothing against any of them, but mom just wouldnt support a pagan business, thats all. I certainly wasnt judging, just repeating what they themself are saying.
gg allin

Princeton Junction, NJ

#15 Dec 16, 2008
Ok! I will try it out! by the way, can i get a "happy ending"?
Thosewhoknow wrote:
dear gg allin
What exactly is your response? Are you asking if the cost of the reiki is expensive? If so, the answer is no. Hope that helps you with your question.

“OBAMA/BIDEN 2008”

Since: Jun 08

Marion, NC

#16 Dec 16, 2008
I feel real Christians do not push their religion on anyone. I feel like my relationship with God is personal and that it is my business and no one elses. Those people on this forum who keep quoting scriptures and accusing people of being "Pagans" or devil worshipers are a bunch of hypocrites and they are the ones who give McDowell County a bad name along with the immature little perverts on here. It is okay to have your own opinion, that is great, but don't beat the bible at everyone.

Since: Dec 08

Marion, NC

#17 Dec 16, 2008
I am wondering if the people running open hands call themselves pagan? If not, I certainly apologize. But if they are advertising a 'pagan' night, then I don't think anyone is wrongly accusing them of being pagan. Are they Christian? yes or no? that's the main issue for me. but personally, freedom of religion is wonderful and the freedom to support or not to support a business that practices something my faith doesnt agree with is also part of that freedom. why does everyone get so offensive on here? I'm not attacking anyones beliefs, I just don't agree, that's all.
was stating

United States

#18 Dec 16, 2008
Dear was wondering,
I have read all these forums but never posted until now. I just had to say that from everything I have read on all the forums it seems to me like the posters who are not Christians think it is their right to say whatever they want, but then when a Christian gives their opinion, which they sometimes back by Scripture, then they are accused of trying to push their religion on someone else. Seems to me like a double standard. I wouldn't worry about what they think of me or my opinion, it only matters what God thinks about it. We will all give account for ourselves on judgement day. By the way, it is my opinion that you made the right decision to stay away from the pagan place.
Open Hands

Waynesboro, GA

#19 Dec 16, 2008
was wondering wrote:
I am wondering if the people running open hands call themselves pagan? If not, I certainly apologize. But if they are advertising a 'pagan' night, then I don't think anyone is wrongly accusing them of being pagan.
Please allow me to address this question ... I can only speak for myself and not for my business partner.*I may have to post this as multiple comments due to the limitations on the word use.*

I have thus far avoided responding to all of this about religion because I don't feel it to be anyone's place to praise or condemn me (or anyone else) for personal religious beliefs. What is between a person and God is just that - between them and God.

To answer you truthfully, I consider myself to be simply a child of God, learning and growing through this life. I do no not follow one strict religion. Instead, I try to find a personal truth in them all whether it be Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. I believe they all have value if you will only look at the heart of them.

My personal religious/spiritual beliefs have nothing to do with my business, although, I am doing what I do because I believe it's what God wants me to do. My business is focused on helping people towards health and wellness. If that is accomplished through offering Reiki, massage therapy, crystal therapy, or any other means of a natural healing service, then I am both honored and happy to do so. If someone comes to our business and finds relief from an illness/disease or even a simple headache, then I am grateful to God and humbled by His & my clients' allowing me to have been even a small part of it.
Open Hands

Waynesboro, GA

#20 Dec 16, 2008
was wondering wrote:
But if they are advertising a 'pagan' night, then I don't think anyone is wrongly accusing them of being pagan.
Yes, we did host a "Pagan Night Out" at the request of several people in the community. But, if all goes well, next month we will also offer a class/lecture on "Biblical Healing Techniques".

In the past months we have also hosted classes on Native American Animal Totems, Using Essential Oils, Green Cleaning In The Home, Dowsing, and a number of other things. We will be hosting events and classes for many other topics in the future. I believe I've previously stated that we have a nice space available for a variety of events should anyone wish to make use of it. This space is open to anyone whose focus is on connecting with the community and being of benefit through education, healing, and personal growth. We will not judge it simply because it may or may not hold to our own personal religious/spiritual beliefs. We don't feel it our place to make such judgment.

I can understand why you would presume we were 'pagan' because of hosting such an event, but that's just the problem ... you presume. I have previously extended, and continue to extend without hesitation, an invitation for you to come see our business and speak directly with me about your concerns instead of using an indirect and impersonal method such as this forum. I believe speaking directly with me would be the only way to truly know what I, as well as my business, is like. Anything else is conjecture and speculation, and in all honestly, rather unfair.
Open Hands

Waynesboro, GA

#21 Dec 16, 2008
was wondering wrote:
that's the main issue for me. but personally, freedom of religion is wonderful and the freedom to support or not to support a business that practices something my faith doesnt agree with is also part of that freedom. why does everyone get so offensive on here? I'm not attacking anyones beliefs, I just don't agree, that's all.
If you do indeed hold to this belief, that freedom of religion is wonderful, then the question of whether or not "we" are Christian or Pagan should be completely irrelevant. Whether or not I do "readings" (which, by the way, is a spiritual practice) again, should be completely irrelevant. The only question that should be asked is if the services we offer are effective and conducive to helping someone heal, reduce pain, or alleviate discomfort in any way. The answer to that question is, unequivocally, yes.

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