Pa. joins fire-safe cigarette states

Pa. joins fire-safe cigarette states

There are 36 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jan 3, 2009, titled Pa. joins fire-safe cigarette states. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Laws mandating stores only sell cigarettes that are slow-burning and fire-safe went into effect in five states on New Year's Day.

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The Truth

Bangor, PA

#24 Jan 4, 2009
CONFEDERATE_1978 wrote:
actuallt we wont,bootleg cigs are on the rise now and this just adds one more reason for people to go the blackmarket route or the roll your own...Your not going to defeat smokers or the capitalist system.
Great news. Let the smokers buy bootleg cigarettes that are not regulated.
Maybe the illegal cigarettes will contain asbesto, pressure treated lumber sawdust and other toxic ingredients. 20/20 did a special on blackmarket smoke and found the above listed items in the smokes.
I guess a smoker doesn't care though, as long as the smokes are cheap.

“SECOND HAND SMOKE IS A JOKE ”

Since: Dec 08

tobacco road

#25 Jan 4, 2009
The Truth wrote:
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Great news. Let the smokers buy bootleg cigarettes that are not regulated.
Maybe the illegal cigarettes will contain asbesto, pressure treated lumber sawdust and other toxic ingredients. 20/20 did a special on blackmarket smoke and found the above listed items in the smokes.
I guess a smoker doesn't care though, as long as the smokes are cheap.
Just a thought for you here,you remember alcohol prohibition.Well part of why it failed was the deaths due to the great black market and the deaths that resulted from poisonous booze.........what your telling me is that your smoking bans will fail for the same reasons alcohol prohibition failed.....looks like histiry is repeating itself,lets just hope the powers to be see this early on and they repeal all their prohibition laws now rather than after millions die due to the effects prohbition brings.
David-1206

Atlanta, GA

#26 Jan 4, 2009
CONFEDERATE_1978 wrote:
<quoted text>actually smokers have higher iqs than non-smokers historically.
Have any proof about that other than wishing it were true?
David-1206

Atlanta, GA

#27 Jan 4, 2009
CONFEDERATE_1978 wrote:
<quoted text>Hmm I wouldnt know as nearly all tobacco smokers dont smoke crack.......do you
Nicotine is a highly addictive drug, and cigarettes are simply nicotine delivery methods into the body...
David-1206

Atlanta, GA

#28 Jan 4, 2009
CONFEDERATE_1978 wrote:
<quoted text>look at your name dip weed.........you can read the hate.like we always said smoking bans arent about health but hate..........so disgusting you pathetic morons are.
I hope health insurance companies start refusing to pay for self-induced smoking diseases.

That way your filthy drug addiction won't cost me money in higher premiums...
David-1206

Atlanta, GA

#29 Jan 4, 2009
57 states wrote:
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Ask the president elect the same question.
Obama being a nicotine addict (and former cocaine addict) tells most Americans all we need to know of his intelligence....
David-1206

Atlanta, GA

#30 Jan 4, 2009
CONFEDERATE_1978 wrote:
<quoted text>Just a thought for you here,you remember alcohol prohibition.Well part of why it failed was the deaths due to the great black market and the deaths that resulted from poisonous booze.........what your telling me is that your smoking bans will fail for the same reasons alcohol prohibition failed.....looks like histiry is repeating itself,lets just hope the powers to be see this early on and they repeal all their prohibition laws now rather than after millions die due to the effects prohbition brings.
If you want to kill yourself in the pursuit of nicotine, be my guest. Don't expect health insurance companies to pay for your stupidity, and hopefully you'll die off soon and relieve our society from having your defective genes in the common pool....

“SECOND HAND SMOKE IS A JOKE ”

Since: Dec 08

tobacco road

#31 Jan 4, 2009
David-1206 wrote:
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If you want to kill yourself in the pursuit of nicotine, be my guest. Don't expect health insurance companies to pay for your stupidity, and hopefully you'll die off soon and relieve our society from having your defective genes in the common pool....
ohhhhhhhh such hate when the truth is exposed..........you guys are indeed the sorriest group around. I tell ya what,lets take all the money the govmnt has ever made off tobacco taxes and compare it to how much you claim smokers cost in medical care........you lose as we pay for ours and everybody elses healthcare thru our higher rates of taxation....fool
57 states

Hellertown, PA

#33 Jan 4, 2009
David-1206 wrote:
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I hope health insurance companies start refusing to pay for self-induced smoking diseases.
That way your filthy drug addiction won't cost me money in higher premiums...
Perhaps self induced aids cases should be penalized too.
The Truth

Glen Lyon, PA

#34 Jan 5, 2009
CONFEDERATE_1978 wrote:
<quoted text>Just a thought for you here,you remember alcohol prohibition.Well part of why it failed was the deaths due to the great black market and the deaths that resulted from poisonous booze.........what your telling me is that your smoking bans will fail for the same reasons alcohol prohibition failed.....looks like histiry is repeating itself,lets just hope the powers to be see this early on and they repeal all their prohibition laws now rather than after millions die due to the effects prohbition brings.
Cigarettes are not banned, booze was back during prohibition.
If smokers want to risk smoking pressure treated lumber sawdust, they do so by choice.
Voted none of the above

Bethlehem, PA

#35 Jan 5, 2009
David-1206 wrote:
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If you want to kill yourself in the pursuit of nicotine, be my guest. Don't expect health insurance companies to pay for your stupidity, and hopefully you'll die off soon and relieve our society from having your defective genes in the common pool....
While you are at it...ban fat people too...they are a BIGGER draw on our health insurance...

Ban them from sticking food in their fat mouths...

“SECOND HAND SMOKE IS A JOKE ”

Since: Dec 08

tobacco road

#36 Jan 5, 2009
The Truth wrote:
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Cigarettes are not banned, booze was back during prohibition.
If smokers want to risk smoking pressure treated lumber sawdust, they do so by choice.
Its just like all the elderly who have died from exposure by being forced into the cold to smoke.....you NAZIS are responsible for murder.
We smokers and the obese will get our day as any dog does.........you cant keep political power for long doing what you do.....paybacks a bytch
for openers

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#37 Jan 5, 2009
"Topix" forum won't allow the link, but, google:thepetitionsite -once you are there, simply type in: repeal-fir-safe-cigarette-laws

It's a petition to repeal the (so called) "Fire-Safe" cigarette laws. You can easily post the real link on a boards other than this one. Hope this helps.
for openers

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#38 Jan 5, 2009
I meant type in: repeal-fire-safe-cigarette-law s
End it

Elk Grove Village, IL

#39 Jan 5, 2009
David-1206 wrote:
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I hope health insurance companies start refusing to pay for self-induced smoking diseases.
That way your filthy drug addiction won't cost me money in higher premiums...
Now you're proving that you're an idiot. Check the GAO figures on helthcare costs in the U.S. Smokers have a lower lifetime cost of care. This is because on average smokers have a shorter lifespan by 8-15 years. A "healthy" elderly person has an additional 8 to 15 years of maintenance of chronic conditions and most develop ongoing respiratory issues before they die anyway.
BTW, they also lower the burden on Social Security and defined benefit pension programs due to the shortened lifespan.
Get a life the whole cost to society argument is hollow and false, it can only be made by focusing on the so called "smoking related diseases" while ignoring any impact on overall costs.
a little wisdom please

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#40 Jan 26, 2009

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