OG&E smart meter is BAD for your health!
ABER

Lawton, OK

#871 Nov 8, 2012
The utility companies and the state plutocrats are the ones that stand to gain millions of dollars by lying... oh well, and then there are the cheap employees....and Cisco types....that would do anything for a little bit of money (lie, cheat, steal, rob, murder...anything as long as it's called a job ) People don't want this junk in their homes. And they probably don't want you around either, Thomas A.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#872 Nov 8, 2012
ABER wrote:
The utility companies and the state plutocrats are the ones that stand to gain millions of dollars by lying... oh well, and then there are the cheap employees....and Cisco types....that would do anything for a little bit of money (lie, cheat, steal, rob, murder...anything as long as it's called a job ) People don't want this junk in their homes. And they probably don't want you around either, Thomas A.
I'm not the one running around in a tin foil hat yelling the sky is falling! Now batten down the hatches, turn on the force field and hunker down for the night.
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#873 Nov 9, 2012
ABER wrote:
The utility companies and the state plutocrats are the ones that stand to gain millions of dollars by lying....
You must be new to this planet.
That's our way here on earth.
We call it capitalism and the free market.
Everyman for himself as he climbs over others.
Here you must work to have wealth and status.

Adjust to our world or return to Fantasy Place.
ABER

Lawton, OK

#874 Nov 10, 2012
A reminder of how stupid and dangerous the smart grid is:
For 24/7, all appliances will transmit wireless data with peak power bursts far above current safety standards - at frequencies between 917 MHz and 3.65 GHz in the ultra-high frequency/microwave ranges of the electromagnetic spectrum, several times a minute
All transmitters inside your home or office will communicate with a Smart Meter attached to the outside of each building.
That meter, in turn, will transmit at an even higher frequency to a central hub installed in local neighborhoods. Signals can also be bounced from house-meter to house-meter before reaching the final hub. So exposures will not just be from your own meter, but accumulating from possibly 100-to-500 of your neighbors’ as well.
The meters and the antennas will act as transceivers, allowing both you via mobile phone or computer -- and your utility company -- to remotely control your appliances.
Living creatures are sensitive to low-level, non-ionizing radiation that includes everything from visible light to the earth’s natural electromagnetic fields.
But human-made radiation creates different exposures -- with unusual signaling characteristics like digital pulsing, phased array and saw-tooth waveforms, and at much higher power intensities than anything found in nature. RF is a form of energetic air pollution Smart systems can wreak havoc with electronics too. People are complaining of ceiling fans turning on in the middle of the night, speeds spontaneously changing, paddles reversing direction, and circuit boards burning up. A few meters have exploded. Others have fried electronics. Fires have started. In New Zealand firefighters report 422 fires in 2010 involved with Smart Meters.
In 2009 Steven Chu, Secretary of Energy -- the agency from which Smart Grids originated ..issued a statement telling the states to take the federal stimulus money and not stand in the way of Smart Grids.
But the biggest lack of intelligence lies in the energy and environment committees of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate. Smart Grid legislation first passed in 2007 as part of the Energy Independence and Security Act under the Bush administration.
But Smart Grids may be little more than a Trojan Horse donned in a “green” hat. After all the government mandates and stimulus money for Smart Grids, a veritable gold rush ensued -- with utility companies, hedge funds, meter vendors, patent owners, and colossi like Google and Verizon vying for taxpayer bucks.
But the biggest enviro-irony is that most Smart Meter models don’t “run backwards”; if you install solar panels or other renewable-energy sources and want to sell energy back to the grid, without very expensive additional equipment the new metering makes that impossible.
High I.Q.’s in Europe
In 2007, Germany's Environment Ministry issued a warning to German citizens to avoid wireless technology when possible and return to cabled means of communication. And the European Environmental Agency called for action to reduce public exposure to radiation from mobile phones, Wi-Fi, Wi-Max, and other antennas.
All the while, a truly intelligent way to help an aging infrastructure does exist. Using closed cables, fiber optic boasts no environmental RF exposures, no dirty electricity, is resistant to sabotage and weather disruptions, and provides TV and high-speed Internet. For $11 billion, the U.S. could bring fiber optic to every home just as Japan has done.
Smart Grid meters aren’t the same as the older wireless models. With the first generation, a van would cruise a neighborhood once a month,“call” for a signal to get the info on energy use, and be done with it. Most of those meters don’t put out radiation at any other time. But Smart Grids are that system on steroids, doing away with the meter reader and emanating 24/7.
Copy/paste from power to the people
ABER

Lawton, OK

#875 Nov 10, 2012
How is it that so many intelligent environmentalists are buying into an eco-health-safety-finance debacle with the potential to increase energy consumption, endanger the environment, harm public health, diminish privacy, make the national utility grid more insecure, cause job losses, and make energy markets more speculative?
Answer: by not doing their homework.
The smart grid is a government-funded money machine capable of intruding into every aspect of our lives.
Smart metering will turn every single appliance into the equivalent of a transmitting cell phone. Meanwhile, people who don’t want to use such appliances won't be able to deactivate the wireless component without disabling it and voiding warranties.
All transmitters inside your home will communicate with a Smart Meter attached to the outside of each building.
That meter will transmit at an even higher frequency to a central hub installed in local neighborhoods. Signals can also be bounced from house-meter to house-meter before reaching the final hub. So exposures will not just be from your own meter, but accumulating from possibly 100-to-500 of your neighbors.
The meters + antennas will act as transceivers, allowing both you via mobile phone or computer -- and take note: your utility company -- to remotely control your appliances.
RF is actually a form of energetic air pollution -- And People are complaining of ceiling fans turning on in the middle of the night, speeds spontaneously changing, paddles reversing direction, and circuit boards burning up. A few meters have exploded. Others have fried electronics. Fires have started. In New Zealand there were 422 fires in 2010 involved with Smart Meters.
In 2009 Steven Chu, Secretary of Energy -- the agency from which Smart Grids originated ..instructed the states to take the federal stimulus money and not stand in the way of Smart Grids.
The biggest lack of intelligence lies in the energy and environment committees of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate. Smart Grid legislation first passed in 2007 under the Bush administration.
All the government mandates and stimulus money for Smart Grids = a veritable gold rush -- with utility companies, hedge funds, meter vendors, patent owners, and colossi like Google and Verizon vying for taxpayer bucks.
In 2007, Germany's Environment Ministry issued a warning to avoid wireless technology when possible and return to cabled means of communication. The French national library banned Wi-Fi in libraries when librarians became ill. And the European Environmental Agency called for action to reduce public exposure to radiation from mobile phones, Wi-Fi, Wi-Max, and other antennas.
In 2008 the European Parliament proposed publicly displayed maps of RF-contaminated areas so people could avoid them, while the U.K.’s Association of Teachers and Lecturers came out against Wi-Fi in classrooms.
Sweden has declared some beaches and public buildings RF-free areas where cell phones and wireless computers cannot be used so that people with electromagnetic hypersensitivity -- a form of environmental allergy that Sweden classifies as a functional disability -- can take a breather from contamination.
Individuals have also rallied. Spanish activists hold an annual International Day Against Electromagnetic Pollution. British and Irish citizens have taken to civil disobedience, bulldozing down cell towers. And Israelis have torn down cell towers with their bare hands and chased landlords who lease rooftops to tower companies through the streets.
Smart Grid meters aren’t the same as the older wireless models. With the first generation, a van would cruise a neighborhood once a month,“call” for a signal to get the info on energy use, and be done with it. Most of those meters don’t put out radiation at any other time. But Smart Grids are that system on steroids, doing away with the meter reader and emanating 24/7.
From power to the people
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#876 Nov 10, 2012
I have noticed that each time my smart
meter transmits, my tooth filling stings.
Also, each time I turn on the television
I see and hear voices and vivid pictures.
Damn them radiations. Make 'em stop.

It's been reported that teenagers are
smoking pot near the meters too. And
that snow that falls on them melts.
They are of the devil. Help Abner
and his other brother Abner stop this
maglinant thing taking over the world.
ABER

Lawton, OK

#877 Nov 10, 2012
Smart meters ..would make for demand response appliances ..but those appliances will not be happening for a decade or so…or better yet... never. People wealthy enough to afford “smart” appliances are not stupid enough to buy them.
And nobody anywhere wants to do business with Thomas A or War for Oil types of people.
That raises questions over the value for money of a massive rollout program whose costs will be passed to consumers…in money and in the cost of developing chronic illnesses.

What went wrong?
The benefits have been overstated: as home appliances become more efficient, and so use less energy, there is less benefit from controlling these in real time, unless on a large scale.
Second, the low replacement rate of appliances is a drag on adoption.(and people don’t want them)
Third, many actors are needed to cooperate, including utilities (to develop new tariffs), appliance manufacturers (to make and retail wireless-enabled units), smart meter companies (to ensure compatibility), regulators (to design standards) and software companies (to develop the back office).
A similar problem has been seen in the roll out of electric vehicle (EV) charging infrastructure, where the manufacturers of street-side charging stations have to work with utilities to identify and bill motorists.
There is no point developing wireless radiation emitting systems before retailers know if anyone would buy smart appliances, or electric cars….. and they suspect no one with any education or intelligence will buy these radiation emitting appliances.
Smart meters are far worst than just an embarrassment to the government .
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#878 Nov 10, 2012
I have noticed that each time my smart
meter transmits, my tooth filling stings.
Also, each time I turn on the television
I see and hear voices and vivid pictures.
Damn them radiations. Make 'em stop.

It's been reported that teenagers are
smoking pot near the meters too. And
that snow that falls on them melts.
They are of the devil. Help Abner
and his other brother Abner stop this
maglinant thing taking over the world.
WFO lives in a rathole

Oklahoma City, OK

#879 Nov 18, 2012
Like you could afford to have your teeth filled you redneck manbutt chaser
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#880 Nov 19, 2012
WFO lives in a rathole wrote:
Like you could afford to have your teeth filled you redneck manbutt chaser
Can't even curse well.
The Prophet Mohammed

Oklahoma City, OK

#881 Nov 19, 2012
WarForOil wrote:
I have noticed that each time my smart
meter transmits, my tooth filling stings.
Also, each time I turn on the television
I see and hear voices and vivid pictures.
Damn them radiations. Make 'em stop.
It's been reported that teenagers are
smoking pot near the meters too. And
that snow that falls on them melts.
They are of the devil. Help Abner
and his other brother Abner stop this
maglinant thing taking over the world.
Oh I am laughing off the ass here WarForOil You such a funny funny guy ! You the Great Satan of comedy you comedian !!!!!!!!!!

May Allah grant me piece and prey on me and my family
ABER

Lawton, OK

#882 Dec 24, 2012
Forcing "smart" meters on America is fleecing the nation of their homes, lives, health, finances, stability ... Not to mention the erosion of our civil liberties, invasion of privacy that amounts to warrantless searches and the right to defend your home against invasion of corporate tyranny, and the greased palms of local authorities. Smart meters are wireless two-way transmitters. The "smart" meter is a cell phone substation (cell phone tower). The intended use is to force people to buy "smart" appliances. You will have to buy a smart appliance because you won't be able to afford your utility bill if you don't. "Smart" appliances have chips imbedded in them which interact with the "smart" meter like cell phones interact with cell phone towers. Again, "smart" meters are cell phone substations. You wouldn't want a cell phone tower in your neighborhood much less on every home in the neighborhood. And "smart" meters have an operating system (computer and software) making them "tunable". Isn't that nice. Merry Christmas! 8059
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#883 Dec 26, 2012
ABER wrote:
The intended use is to force people to buy "smart" appliances. You will have to buy a smart appliance because you won't be able to afford your utility bill if you don't. 8059
Don't be intimidated by appliances that are smarter than
you. If you use gas lighting in your house, no wonder
you can't afford your utility bills.

Adjust to this century.
ABER

Lawton, OK

#884 Dec 26, 2012
Same old insults and snide remarks and nonsense...with out a single fact or truth ...just nothing.
ABER

Lawton, OK

#885 Dec 30, 2012
The Psychology of Mass Denial: 9/11 Truth and Cognitive Dissonance. Or is it just flat out lying on the government’s part?
This 9/11 denial is very much like the government and utility companies' attempt to deny the health effects of “smart” meters and other cell phone substation health effects.
So here is the 9/11 story of denial …Now, eleven years later, due to the long latency period of cancer, the illnesses are just showing up.… So the government is saying no, it is NOT happening...and oh well, maybe it IS happening…and so here are some statements….swinging back and forth and trying to wiggle out of the truth.
Sep 11, 2012 – The US government has decided to recognize around 50 different types of cancer that victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks have been diagnosed ...
Dec 18, 2012 –“There's no evidence that 9/11 caused any of these cancers,”
The 9/11 Health and Compensation Act -- has no basis –
A study published in December 2012 in The Journal of the American Medical Association observed the possible association between exposure to the World Trade Center debris and excess cancer risk
The findings showed the overall incidence of all cancers among rescue and/or recovery workers was not significantly elevated, compared to non-rescue and/or recovery workers.(the blanket of toxins fell on everyone )
Despite this, the incidences for prostate cancer, thyroid cancer, and multiple myeloma were significantly elevated among the rescue and/or recovery workers, in the final year of observation
"Why isn't the whole nation mobilizing to take care of the chronic health impact of this disaster?". Dr. Norton cited the 70 percent illness rates…..
An August 2003 report by the Office of the Inspector General of the EPA said the Bush administration pressured the EPA to remove cautionary information about the air quality at Ground Zero.
Numerous key differences between the draft versions and final versions of EPA statements were found.
The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation conducted a study of the World Trade Center site, but refused to release the results of its study, saying they were part of a criminal investigation.
Critics assert that government officials – notably Bush, Christine Todd Whitman (former head of the United States Environmental Protection Agency), and then-New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani – downplayed the health risks of the area and rushed to reopen the area around Ground Zero, although this posed a grave and immediate health risks.
Two days after the collapse of the World Trade Center, mayor Giuliani said, "The air is safe as far as we can tell, with respect to chemical and biological agents." Giuliani, in attempting to deflate New York Daily News journalist Juan Gonzalez' reportage of the 9/11 air issue, claimed that "the problems created… are not health-threatening." In the first month after the attacks, the mayor said, "The air quality is safe and acceptable."
On December 22, 2010, the United States Senate passed a 9/11 Health Bill ..(which the Republican Party had fought against passing..claiming there were no heath issues). The measure calls for providing $1.8 billion until 2015 to monitor and treat injuries stemming from exposure to toxic dust and debris at World Trade Center site.
So who do you believe about “smart” meters. Do you believe the scientists around the world who are tell us of the dangers of the wireless remote control transmitter “smart” meters .......... Or do you believe the government, GE, Cisco and the utility companies and their paid for studies saying “smart” meters are safe..?
No, the government and utility companies do not have the right to force a class 2b carcinogen on peoples’ homes.
WarforOil

Grapevine, TX

#886 Jan 2, 2013
ABER wrote:
... do you believe the government, GE, Cisco and the utility companies and their paid for studies saying “smart” meters are safe..?
No, I'd rather believe a tin hatted, conspiracy freak.
Someone who is so paranoid that he's concerned that
' they ' are listening in on him via the smart meter.
Gotta believe this guy, right ?
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#887 Jan 7, 2013
It's good to know thaat ABER and those with similar mindsets have their own rallying theme song: "Somebody's Watching Me" By Rockwell
smart_okie

Guthrie, OK

#889 Jan 7, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
It's good to know thaat ABER and those with similar mindsets have their own rallying theme song: "Somebody's Watching Me" By Rockwell
ThomasA and others that don't believe that many activities are monitored are either stupid, foolish or living in a previous century. Any data that is collected can be mined. The only data that cannot be mined is data that isn't collected.

I work in the IT industry with large volumes of data and most people would be astounded by how easy it is to associate data with individuals. If you don't think that "somebody's watching you" then you are sadly inept. Wake up and join the 21st century.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#890 Jan 7, 2013
Let's see: ABER and Smart Okie seem to be suffering from the "Smart Meter Syndrome". They show the signs of(1) delusions such as actually believing something or somebody is out to get them or cause them harm.(2) anxiety (3) anger (4) violence towards the unknown (5)argumentativess (6) self importance over others (7) difficulty with thinking or concentrating about anything other than a single track. They really believe that the power company is trying to monitor every move they make and someone is out there trying to slowly kill them with RF. These SMS delusions may eventually cause aggression to the point of violence against those they suspect. This condition will also lead to hallucinations of voices from these meters talking to them or their other appliances in a voice that no one else can hear telling them to do things that they normally wouldn't . Hopefull they will seek help before it's off to the rubber room for them.
Dillon E

Muskogee, OK

#891 Jan 7, 2013
I actually saved sixty dollars on my monthly bill with the smart meter. I signed up on the OGE website and now I can see my usage down to the minute. Pretty cool. It will even estimate what your bill will be for that month. If it starts to increase I adjust my thermostat down a few degrees.

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