OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#39384 May 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>In a rating of 1 to 10 and 1 being the worst and 10 being the best how would you rate how good has the government been in getting the infor about Obamacare and what is going on and how it is actually going to each and every person in this country?
Most of the people I talk to have no idea to what is going on. A lot still think that all of Obamacare will still under government control like Medicaid and medicare. A lot do not know that they may get keep what they have now. But a lot of people are worried what will happen with their job related coverage. And most donot realize if they get it paid for by their employer or thru government aid that it will be claimed as income for the IRS at the end of the year.
So my rating is 2 and it is a 2 because people just know Obamacare is coming.


My rating is minus -7.5 and it is a -7.5 because people don't know Obamacare is leaving before the 2014 election with a veto proof bipartisan repeal.
Dano

United States

#39385 May 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>In a rating of 1 to 10 and 1 being the worst and 10 being the best how would you rate how good has the government been in getting the infor about Obamacare and what is going on and how it is actually going to each and every person in this country?
Most of the people I talk to have no idea to what is going on. A lot still think that all of Obamacare will still under government control like Medicaid and medicare. A lot do not know that they may get keep what they have now. But a lot of people are worried what will happen with their job related coverage. And most donot realize if they get it paid for by their employer or thru government aid that it will be claimed as income for the IRS at the end of the year.
So my rating is 2 and it is a 2 because people just know Obamacare is coming.
-10

The reason I say it's a negative 10 is from the very first this healthcare bill has been one misrepresentation and out right lie after another. It was forced down everyone's throat with a smug look on Pelosi's, Reid and Obama's faces. Remember Pelosi telling congress to pass it so they could read what the bill contained outside of the "fog" of controversy. If I hadn't seen the video clip I wouldn't have believed a politician would have had the gall
to make such an arrogant statement. None of the exchanges are up an running that I'm aware of and then look at the additional cost to those of us who purchase our own health care coverage. Not one thing on this healthcare has turned out the way Obama and his minions have claimed. No one knows exactly what will happen because the yard stick we are told never pans out it's always moving and each time it moves the cost explodes.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39386 May 6, 2013
Only a handful of states are beginning campaigns to promote the online health insurance marketplaces created by the law. Known as exchanges, the markets will offer private coverage at federally subsidized rates to individuals and families with low-to-moderate incomes, with enrollment set to begin Oct. 1.

For the federal exchanges, HHS has a contract worth at least $8 million with public relations firm Weber Shandwick and $54 million to train and pay "navigators," counselors who will help consumers choose a health plan. It also has a $28 million contract with General Dynamics to set up a call center and will make its Healthcare.gov website consumer-oriented.
The administration is seeking help from major U.S. insurance providers to market aggressively to consumers on the federally run exchanges and help convince healthy citizens between 26 to 45 to pay for insurance instead of a first-year penalty amounting to $95 per person or 1 percent of household income.

Now these 2 points interested me. Now was the sign up date April 1st or is it Oct 1st?

So what the government is saying is that healthy people pay for the ones that is not. Did I understand this correctly? I am assuming it has always been that way?
If so then Justi comments to about medicare really ticks me off more than ever. We have always bought our own health insurance. I have never had any real major health issues thru all that time. So my premiums went for the benefits of the ones not so healthy (like her saying she has MS?) and she begrudges me for wanting the best from medicare? But she is expecting the healthy ones to pay in to Obamacare to make it work!

Go figure that type of attitude!
Dano

United States

#39387 May 6, 2013
Justaliar is a political hack, she doesn't care about you, me or anyone else as long as she can promote her agenda. The truth isn't her friend, she uses lies and misrepresentations to promote her agenda.

Sounds just like Obama to me.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#39388 May 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
Only a handful of states are beginning campaigns to promote the online health insurance marketplaces created by the law. Known as exchanges, the markets will offer private coverage at federally subsidized rates to individuals and families with low-to-moderate incomes, with enrollment set to begin Oct. 1.
For the federal exchanges, HHS has a contract worth at least $8 million with public relations firm Weber Shandwick and $54 million to train and pay "navigators," counselors who will help consumers choose a health plan. It also has a $28 million contract with General Dynamics to set up a call center and will make its Healthcare.gov website consumer-oriented.
The administration is seeking help from major U.S. insurance providers to market aggressively to consumers on the federally run exchanges and help convince healthy citizens between 26 to 45 to pay for insurance instead of a first-year penalty amounting to $95 per person or 1 percent of household income.
Now these 2 points interested me. Now was the sign up date April 1st or is it Oct 1st?
So what the government is saying is that healthy people pay for the ones that is not. Did I understand this correctly? I am assuming it has always been that way?
If so then Justi comments to about medicare really ticks me off more than ever. We have always bought our own health insurance. I have never had any real major health issues thru all that time. So my premiums went for the benefits of the ones not so healthy (like her saying she has MS?) and she begrudges me for wanting the best from medicare? But she is expecting the healthy ones to pay in to Obamacare to make it work!
Go figure that type of attitude!


Most politicians already know it will collapse under its own weight so there are some that are trying to make a deal to delay it trying to avoid the repeal. We shall see which way it goes. I think the repeal and replace is most likely of all options.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39389 May 6, 2013
Talk about political hacks

Repeal and replace, lol, oh yeah, Republicans want to limit medical liability claims....like Texas...they sure hate letting people sue when they've injured and letting juries decided the award.

Then they want insurance to be bought and sold across state lines so insurance carriers can flee to states with less regulations. Bet the carriers end up a state like Texas, Louisiana or Mississippi.

Republicans sure don't want to talk about their 'replace' plans that much anymore....sure leaves a lot of holes in their plans...

But covering the health of people of the US has never been a priority for the Repubs, but sure limiting the availability of medical care is. I thought their mantra was 'everybody can be treated by going to the ER!"
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39390 May 6, 2013
Talk about collapsing under it's own weight. All the blogs are talking about the crappy insurance policy that West, Texas fertilizer plant had..

And let's see how much individual homeowner's policies will pay out...since they fought tooth and nail over hurricane damages.

Texas always talks about regulations kill business, but they never said:

No regulations kill people.

So those health insurance plans that you Repubs are making won't sail through with the American people. But you left one thingee out....you have to win an election to win the White House and the Senate first....lol...
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39392 May 6, 2013
Packing Heat, sure not talking about how much you love Fox today, could it be...that you've lost the Fox talking heads over your Benghazi fetish?

Fox and Friends really went to town on Jassen Chaffetz (R-UT) this morning, and yesterday on Fox was not smooth sailing for him either...

They asked Chaffetz:

BRIAN KILMEADE: Are you saying that admiral Pickering and Mullen are complicit because they did the review board? Are you saying that the CIA is complicit because they allowed their talking points to be edited?… What about Admiral Mullen and Pickering? Why would they sacrifice their reputation for a report that isn’t accurate?[...]

STEVE DOOCY: Congressman, it sounds like what you’ve described, it sounds like there has been a cover-up, but what were they trying to cover up?[...]

GRETCHEN CARLSON: But Congressman, it’s an interesting question because it does involve so many high-level people. You had the former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta — who was revered by both sides of the fence — coming out and saying,‘hey, we couldn’t have gotten anybody there.’ So you have him on the line. You have former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, President Obama, Admiral Mullen. Would all of these people go to bat just to get President Obama reelected?

KILMEADE: What about David Petraeus?

LOL it's not even Wednesday yet...by Saturday you guys might get the first thirty minutes of Saturday Night Live sketches... LOL
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39393 May 6, 2013
Dano wrote:
<quoted text>
The security is handled by pentagon funding not the state department, didn't your progressive liberal talking points inform you?
See that's the problem right there...go back to google and look it up. The State Department has a budget for their own security. Look at the DOS budget not the DOD budget...but of course you have to slam me for what? You being misinformed.....what's new?
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39394 May 6, 2013
I knew the posts would be hilarious this morning and I wasn't disappointed. Going shopping and helping the economy this morning. Check back later for your amazing quips this evening...
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39395 May 6, 2013
I guess Justi doesnot know that health insurance is sold over state lines but whether you are buying health ins. property ins. or auto ins. it goes by region of zip codes. Even if you buy with in your state it goes by the region of zip codes. Like when we lived in Enid and bought it in Enid it went by the zip code but when we moved to Edmond and bought it from Enid our ins. went by the Edmond zip code and for all ins. Edmond has a high rate than Enid. So Buy your insurance from an agent in Texas, Missouri, Kansas or Arkansas but you will rated by your zip code to where you live.

Have fun shopping! We will not be holding our breathe till you come back with the jokes you post!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39396 May 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Talk about collapsing under it's own weight. All the blogs are talking about the crappy insurance policy that West, Texas fertilizer plant had..
And let's see how much individual homeowner's policies will pay out...since they fought tooth and nail over hurricane damages.
Texas always talks about regulations kill business, but they never said:
No regulations kill people.
So those health insurance plans that you Repubs are making won't sail through with the American people. But you left one thingee out....you have to win an election to win the White House and the Senate first....lol...
Well lets hope the home owner carried enough coverage. They only get paid for the amount they had taken out. If they did not have enough coverage to replace what they loss then I would say they will not get paid more to cover those expenses. This is saying they have $75,000 and it will take $125,000 to replace then that is the homeowners loss. Oh yes do not for get the deductible comes off the top.
tariff

Tulsa, OK

#39397 May 6, 2013
RIP wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you have to carry car insurance? Think about your answer. The reason you and I HAVE to carry car insurance is to protect and pay for damage you might cause as a driver. Also you have to carry insurance to protect the bank if you wreck your car. Same for house insurance(you have to protect the bank). If you own your car free and clear and don't drive it on public roads you do not have to insure your car.
you have to draw the retards a picture about the need for insurance, they can't read
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39398 May 6, 2013
RIP wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you have to carry car insurance? Think about your answer. The reason you and I HAVE to carry car insurance is to protect and pay for damage you might cause as a driver. Also you have to carry insurance to protect the bank if you wreck your car. Same for house insurance(you have to protect the bank). If you own your car free and clear and don't drive it on public roads you do not have to insure your car.

Sorry RIP if you own a car free and clear and even if you don't drive it on public roads and you want to tag it then you have to liability insurance. If you have a loan on the car then the loan company requires you to carry full coverage. But if you are caught on any road including a county road and donot have liability insurance you will be fined.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#39399 May 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>Packing Heat, sure not talking about how much you love Fox today, could it be...that you've lost the Fox talking heads over your Benghazi fetish?
Fox and Friends really went to town on Jassen Chaffetz (R-UT) this morning, and yesterday on Fox was not smooth sailing for him either...
They asked Chaffetz:
BRIAN KILMEADE: Are you saying that admiral Pickering and Mullen are complicit because they did the review board? Are you saying that the CIA is complicit because they allowed their talking points to be edited?… What about Admiral Mullen and Pickering? Why would they sacrifice their reputation for a report that isn’t accurate?[...]
STEVE DOOCY: Congressman, it sounds like what you’ve described, it sounds like there has been a cover-up, but what were they trying to cover up?[...]
GRETCHEN CARLSON: But Congressman, it’s an interesting question because it does involve so many high-level people. You had the former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta — who was revered by both sides of the fence — coming out and saying,‘hey, we couldn’t have gotten anybody there.’ So you have him on the line. You have former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, President Obama, Admiral Mullen. Would all of these people go to bat just to get President Obama reelected?
KILMEADE: What about David Petraeus?
LOL it's not even Wednesday yet...by Saturday you guys might get the first thirty minutes of Saturday Night Live sketches... LOL


Oh'Really? You ignorant, no fact finding low-life liberal hack, are you kidding us?
You really are not very good at this are you moron?
You never really got off the little short'bus either did you retard?

Now, even Democrats are very critical of Rice's\ Obama - Clinton's Sunday Morning Talkshows Benghazi Explanation, amid more damaging evidence bigger than WaterGate!

If someone in your family reads and comprehends beyond making up fantasies, ask them to educate you here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/05/de...

Comments from leftwing assclowns that bring no constructive input to this discussion or liberal comments that clearly show you haven't bothered to actually read and understand the issue, will be ignored!
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#39400 May 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>Talk about political hacks

Repeal and replace, lol, oh yeah, Republicans want to limit medical liability claims....like Texas...they sure hate letting people sue when they've injured and letting juries decided the award.

Then they want insurance to be bought and sold across state lines so insurance carriers can flee to states with less regulations. Bet the carriers end up a state like Texas, Louisiana or Mississippi.

Republicans sure don't want to talk about their 'replace' plans that much anymore....sure leaves a lot of holes in their plans...

But covering the health of people of the US has never been a priority for the Repubs, but sure limiting the availability of medical care is. I thought their mantra was 'everybody can be treated by going to the ER!"


Sure, we will talk about the replacement healthcare bill...as soon as they pass it so you can read it away from all the controversy! Your side made the rules and that is how it will be played. It's not like you have many choixes.
1) Obamacare is a "Train Wreck" fixing to bankrupt and then you have nothing.
2) We may or may not replace it, nothing has been decide until it is passed like Obamacare was passed.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#39401 May 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>Talk about collapsing under it's own weight. All the blogs are talking about the crappy insurance policy that West, Texas fertilizer plant had..

And let's see how much individual homeowner's policies will pay out...since they fought tooth and nail over hurricane damages.

Texas always talks about regulations kill business, but they never said:

No regulations kill people.

So those health insurance plans that you Repubs are making won't sail through with the American people. But you left one thingee out....you have to win an election to win the White House and the Senate first....lol...


Wrong again Einstein, we sit back, continue to starve Obamacare of the massive additional funds Obama lied about and watch it fold up like a cheap lawnchair. Everything else falls in place when it's gone bankrupt, off to the basement, to sit out eternity beside Hillarycare you ignorant dolt. No more effort required so you can quit being an idiot! While all that is quietly happening in the background, we will be busy with impeaching Obama and prosecuting Hillary Clinton. Remember who the Pro-Bono Attorneys are you ignorant dolt. They'll make the case for free for any prosecutor looking to make a name. Laugh all you want now because I want to see how much you are laughing when it all becomes reality.

What was it Confusous say, "he who laugh last, laugh longest!
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#39402 May 6, 2013
Today's Talking Points of Interest.

1) Clinton sought end-run around counterterrorism bureau on night of Benghazi attack, witness will say. Imagine that, lol.
A 'whistle-blower' witness from the State Department who will soon testify tells Fox News that Clinton and a key aide tried to cut the agency's own counter-terrorism bureau out of reporting, decision-making the night of attack.
Read here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/06/cl...

2) Obama lies again! Study pegs cost of Obama's immigration bill’s massive legalization at $6.3T.
THE COST TO GRANT legal status to America's 11 million illegal immigrants — allowing them to tap into government's vast array of social benefits and services, including already stressed programs like Social Security and Medicare — could top $6.3 trillion, according to a study by the Heritage Foundation obtained in advance by Fox News.
Read here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/06/st...

Comments from leftwing assclowns that bring no constructive input to this discussion or comments that clearly show you haven't bothered to actually read and understand the issue, will be ignored!
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#39403 May 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Texas always talks about regulations kill business, but they never said:

No regulations kill people.
Gov. Perry ( repeatedly re-elected )
has said that all fertilizer plants in
Texas are properly regulated. He
repeated that opinion even after the
West Texas plant exploded.

So there's enough regulation, heard it
straight from the horse's mouth.
The fact that the plant exploded is
irrelevant.

Gov. Perry knows all. God bless the
NRA and the good ole gov.
Dano

United States

#39404 May 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>
See that's the problem right there...go back to google and look it up. The State Department has a budget for their own security. Look at the DOS budget not the DOD budget...but of course you have to slam me for what? You being misinformed.....what's new?
Slam you for being a f&&king idiot. But still you post gibberish google away enfant because you are WRONG...again I might add. You say all the blogs? Really, in the billions how many have you read personally or did you recite the list of rhetoric of the day? Even if I was incorrect which I am not, the person responsible for security testified under oath that any funds needed were available for security. So again, we see you are a liar!

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