Raye Dawn Smith wanted autopsy, defen...

Raye Dawn Smith wanted autopsy, defendant's mother testifies

There are 25834 comments on the NewsOK.com story from Jul 17, 2007, titled Raye Dawn Smith wanted autopsy, defendant's mother testifies. In it, NewsOK.com reports that:

“She knew that's just the way it had to be, to get through it. She accepted it”

' The first defense witness at the child-abuse trial for Raye Dawn Smith said Monday the mother wanted an autopsy to find out why her 2-year-old daughter died in 2005, but her new husband opposed it. via NewsOK.com

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What If

Shah Alam, Malaysia

#1491 May 25, 2008
Oh now you are using God's words for your argument sake? It doesnt matter what religion you are, God always demand us to be good to your friends and prays for your enemies.

However, didnt someone in this forum wished Raye Dawn Smith to rot in jail? Didnt someone said that Judge Key should be disbarred? And not too long ago, didnt someone wished Howard Hendrick to loose his job? Shouln't you practised what you preached? Or is it the 'ill-wishing' kind of pray you are talking about? Please!
Shelly

Germany

#1492 May 25, 2008
"Be not deceived, God is not mocked; whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he reap."
(Galatians 6:7)

Be careful what you sow.
Shelly

Cugnaux, France

#1494 May 26, 2008
What If wrote:
Oh now you are using God's words for your argument sake? It doesnt matter what religion you are, God always demand us to be good to your friends and prays for your enemies.
However, didnt someone in this forum wished Raye Dawn Smith to rot in jail? Didnt someone said that Judge Key should be disbarred? And not too long ago, didnt someone wished Howard Hendrick to loose his job? Shouln't you practised what you preached? Or is it the 'ill-wishing' kind of pray you are talking about? Please!
I didn't say these things but..ever thought that if it happened, it would be Mr. Key and Mr. Hendrick reaping what they sowed?
Motherof soon to be 2

Edmonton, Canada

#1495 May 26, 2008
Justice 1st.......do you know what else happens to innocent people besides wrongful convictions? Innocent people get murdered by their mother's husbands because their mother chose to turn a blind eye to the horrific abuse that is taking place right under her sniveling, self important, selfish nose. Mothers need to start taking responsibility for the people they allow into their children's lives, situations they force their helpless children into and abuse signs they choose to ignore.....period! If a woman isn't willing to protect her child instead of worrying about herself, maybe that woman shouldn't have children.
Bailey

AOL

#1496 May 26, 2008
"Mothers need to start taking responsibility for the people they allow into their children's lives, situations they force their helpless children into and abuse signs they choose to ignore.....period!" Right on! So many kids are abused and killed by step parents or boyfriends. Raye Dawn married this man and forced him into her daughter's life. Raye Dawn made the choice to leave her daughter alone in his care....if she had not done that, Kelsey would be alive. Bash the paternal family all you want...it just adds to your guilt and makes people loathe Raye Dawn even more. She made the wrong choice when she married this man...she made the wrong choice when she left her daughter alone with him and NOW HER CHILD IS DEAD! Raye Dawn, her family and friends need to grow up and accept some responsibility for HER mistake and bad choice!
Motherof soontobe 2

Edmonton, Canada

#1497 May 26, 2008
I am not at all afraid to say that I think that child abusers and people that enable child abuse should rot in jail. Somebody that is capable of either harming a defenseless child or of enabling the abuse of a defenseless child deserves to not only rot in jail, they deserve the exact same suffering that child was forced to endure. Disagree all you want, maybe if laws and punishment were more harsh more parents would either take better care of their children or give them up for adoption at least giving them a fighting chance at a decent life.
Shonya Kay

Fort Worth, TX

#1498 May 26, 2008
What If wrote:
Oh now you are using God's words for your argument sake? It doesnt matter what religion you are, God always demand us to be good to your friends and prays for your enemies.
However, didnt someone in this forum wished Raye Dawn Smith to rot in jail? Didnt someone said that Judge Key should be disbarred? And not too long ago, didnt someone wished Howard Hendrick to loose his job? Shouln't you practised what you preached? Or is it the 'ill-wishing' kind of pray you are talking about? Please!
I was not using God's word for an argument.
Since we was on the subject I thought I would share some helpful and insightful scriptures.

I really don't care what you think of my intentions because God knows my heart.

Someone else on this forum made those statements not me,so I would appreciate it if you wouldn't falsely accuse me of things I did not do.
JUSTICE1st

AOL

#1499 May 26, 2008
What If wrote:
Oh now you are using God's words for your argument sake? It doesnt matter what religion you are, God always demand us to be good to your friends and prays for your enemies.
However, didnt someone in this forum wished Raye Dawn Smith to rot in jail? Didnt someone said that Judge Key should be disbarred? And not too long ago, didnt someone wished Howard Hendrick to loose his job? Shouln't you practised what you preached? Or is it the 'ill-wishing' kind of pray you are talking about? Please!
Exactly. I have seen more hatred and "prayers" for RDS to either die or rot in jail on this one thread from so-called "christians" who display anything BUT love and compassion for others. This is why religion in general and Christianity in particular is losing respect in many parts of this country and the world.

They can deny it all they want, of course, but that is typical of them. If you go back and read the first pages of this thread, you'll see that sheer hatred and vengeance are spewed out all over the place. And it all comes from the Kathie Briggs supporters, against RDS, the Smith family, and anyone who dares to disagree with them publicly. Really makes you wonder what they have to hide, when they display such hatred for those who disagree with them and support RDS instead.

Wrongful convictions...they DO happen to the innocent.

http://www.usobserverok.com/archive/edition1-...
JUSTICE1st

AOL

#1500 May 26, 2008
Shonya Kay wrote:
<quoted text>
I never spread any of the sort you mentioned.
I only presented information from the official documents,and trial notes.
If I gave my opinion on something I always state that it is just that,my opinion.
Just because some people refuse to believe the Truth,it doesn't change the Truth,the Truth is it's own witness.
Oh BROTHER. You spread plenty of gossip, hearsay, rumor and speculation, not to mention your silly bible quotations and verses, but as you said, it is your right to do so. It's rather amusing when you try to have it both ways though.

Wrongful convictions...they DO happen to the innocent.

http://www.usobserverok.com/archive/edition1-...
JUSTICE1st

AOL

#1501 May 26, 2008
Shonya Kay wrote:
<quoted text>
I was not using God's word for an argument.
Since we was on the subject I thought I would share some helpful and insightful scriptures.
I really don't care what you think of my intentions because God knows my heart.
Someone else on this forum made those statements not me,so I would appreciate it if you wouldn't falsely accuse me of things I did not do.
But it was perfectly okay for Kathie Briggs and her supporters to FALSELY ACCUSE Raye Dawn Smith of things she didn't do, of course. It's just not okay when someone accuses you of things you don't like to get caught doing. Like spreading more second-hand gossip, rumor, hearsay and speculation against all who you personally dislike. We got that already.@@

Wrongful convictions...they DO happen to the innocent.

http://www.usobserverok.com/archive/edition1-...
JUSTICE1st

AOL

#1502 May 26, 2008
Motherof soontobe 2 wrote:
I am not at all afraid to say that I think that child abusers and people that enable child abuse should rot in jail. Somebody that is capable of either harming a defenseless child or of enabling the abuse of a defenseless child deserves to not only rot in jail, they deserve the exact same suffering that child was forced to endure. Disagree all you want, maybe if laws and punishment were more harsh more parents would either take better care of their children or give them up for adoption at least giving them a fighting chance at a decent life.
I'm sure you aren't. Just hope for your sake that you don't get an embittered and hate-filled ex mother-in-law angry at you. Otherwise, a FALSE ACCUSATION could happen to you as easily as it happened to RDS. All that's needed is for one angry and spiteful adult to point the accusing finger at you, one who happens to be a very good actress and drama queen. Police and prosecutors take over from there.

Kelsey Smith-Briggs - Murder & Exploitation
Prosecutor Smothermon pushes false charges?
http://www.usobserverok.com/archive/edition1-...

Wrongful convictions...they DO happen to the innocent.

Through Kelsey Smith-Briggs' Eyes
What Do DHS Visitation Logs Tell Us?
http://www.usobserverok.com/articles/kelsey/k...
Shelly

Berlin, Germany

#1503 May 26, 2008
JUSTICE1st wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh BROTHER. You spread plenty of gossip, hearsay, rumor and speculation, not to mention your silly bible quotations and verses, but as you said, it is your right to do so. It's rather amusing when you try to have it both ways though.
Wrongful convictions...they DO happen to the innocent.
http://www.usobserverok.com/archive/edition1-...
Justice1st, just because you don't believe in God does not make the bible or any of its quotations silly. It also doesn't mean that it's not true.
Even life and common sense tells us you will reap what you sow.
I've seen posts from you about not believing in God, that explains a lot and I will keep praying for you.
We are not responsible for what other people posted on this thread. There are other people out there that think Raye Dawn is where she belongs besides KP members.
Didn't you teach the other FKM members not to address the poster, just the post?
Why were you so concerned if Shonya posting the trial notes was legal or not?
Ever wonder why none of us pay attention to your posts? You post nonsense over and over and over. I for one don't pay much attention to you because I know you've had to ask FKM members to tell you the answers to things before you pose a question. You really have no clue about this case, you just like drama and the FKMer's patting you on the back. It explains why you post links to things that have nothing to do with this case and why you can't distinguish gossip and hearsay from actual documents.
Standing was right, you are a mean spirited person and now we can see why.
truthseeker

Phoenix, AZ

#1504 May 26, 2008
this is crazy and is taking over my girls life becuase she read this shit and thats all she does at work at home is sit on tne damn computer and talk to raydawn her mom and others they call her on the phone they are setting up some stupid rally and all i want is her back they brain washed her into making her think raydawn is not guilty and is like family but it makes us fight daily and raydawn and her family dont care her name is abbie please u fuckers let me have her back tnx guit the brain washing she is pregnent and should not got to the really
Shelly

Des Moines, IA

#1505 May 26, 2008
truthseeker wrote:
this is crazy and is taking over my girls life becuase she read this shit and thats all she does at work at home is sit on tne damn computer and talk to raydawn her mom and others they call her on the phone they are setting up some stupid rally and all i want is her back they brain washed her into making her think raydawn is not guilty and is like family but it makes us fight daily and raydawn and her family dont care her name is abbie please u fuckers let me have her back tnx guit the brain washing she is pregnent and should not got to the really
I don't know what to say to this except that it's sad and I'm sorry. I assume you are the boyfriend or husband?
No one should get that caught up in anything no matter what it is. Change the number? Block the sites on the computer?
abbies man

Phoenix, AZ

#1506 May 26, 2008
i feel like im going nuts cuz thats all i hear and thats all my son hears raydawn raydawn we dont wont abbie in this please help me to get her to stop please i need this more than raydawn and her family this is my family so why wast more lifes we are not doing good all becuase of all the damn brain washing and stupid shit in raydawns life im sorry but shes not my family
Shelly

Des Moines, IA

#1507 May 26, 2008
I have wondered what affect it has had on some of the families. I have a gut feeling your family is not the only one suffering.
I hope that they will read this and realize what they are doing. You're right, nothing is more important than your family and if it's causing that many problems in someone's family, it needs to be let go.
Motherof soontobe 2

Edmonton, Canada

#1511 May 26, 2008
All I know in all this is that an angel was tragically lost due to the negligence of her mother, yes it is true whether you sympathizers like it or not.......SHE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN!!!! You can make excuse until you are all blue in the face but that doesn't at all change the fact that because of RD not protecting Kelsey, Kelsey is no longer with us. You can create all the conspiracy theories you want you can make all the Briggs into evil, awful people and you can make Kathie into an omnipotent being with magical powers and mind control. None of that would change the fact that Kelsey's MOTHER, the woman who carried her for 9 months, who chose to keep and raise her after conceiving her, dropped the ball in the most horrific way possible. KELSEY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF HER, WHAT DON"T YOU ALL GET??? HOW CAN ANY OF YOU SYMPATHIZE WITH HER WHILE KELSEY LAYS IN THE GROUND????? Ask yourselves, if KB was so powerful and had such control over this situation, don't you think she would've saved her granddaughter from these people and gotten full custody? That would heve been just as spiteful and a great way to mess with RD (as she's accused) Don't you think she would've put her magic powers of persuasion to use then? I just know that one day I'm going to hear about you all drinking the Kool-Aid together when you finally give your heads a shake and realize you are trying to free somebody that allowed their daugter to be tortured and murdered.
Shonya Kay

Fort Worth, TX

#1512 May 26, 2008
JUSTICE1st wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. I have seen more hatred and "prayers" for RDS to either die or rot in jail on this one thread from so-called "christians" who display anything BUT love and compassion for others. This is why religion in general and Christianity in particular is losing respect in many parts of this country and the world.
They can deny it all they want, of course, but that is typical of them. If you go back and read the first pages of this thread, you'll see that sheer hatred and vengeance are spewed out all over the place. And it all comes from the Kathie Briggs supporters, against RDS, the Smith family, and anyone who dares to disagree with them publicly. Really makes you wonder what they have to hide, when they display such hatred for those who disagree with them and support RDS instead.
Wrongful convictions...they DO happen to the innocent.
http://www.usobserverok.com/archive/edition1-...
I have never wished anyone to rot in hell or die, in fact that is the whole purpose I disabled my comments on my "The Kelsey Brigg's Story" (Original) video there were many horrible comments that were left in regards to Mike Porter and Raye Dawn.
I created that video with the purpose of sharing Kelsey's story so she would be remembered and possibly help others through her story.

Don't judge Christianity by the actions of anyone,because as humans none of us are perfect and we all make mistakes.

You should only judge Christianity by Christ alone.

Nobody is Perfect.....Christian or not!

I admit I didn't portray myself in the best light in a couple of my posts and I have apologized more than once to the person I offended but I have never done the things you accuse me of.

I am a Christian,I am not perfect,just forgiven.
Shonya Kay

Fort Worth, TX

#1513 May 26, 2008
JUSTICE1st wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh BROTHER. You spread plenty of gossip, hearsay, rumor and speculation, not to mention your silly bible quotations and verses, but as you said, it is your right to do so. It's rather amusing when you try to have it both ways though.
Wrongful convictions...they DO happen to the innocent.
http://www.usobserverok.com/archive/edition1-...
If you want people to think you are credible it would benefit you to prove what exactly was stated by the ones you are accusing of hearsay,and gossip etc.
Shonya Kay

Fort Worth, TX

#1514 May 26, 2008
truthseeker wrote:
this is crazy and is taking over my girls life becuase she read this shit and thats all she does at work at home is sit on tne damn computer and talk to raydawn her mom and others they call her on the phone they are setting up some stupid rally and all i want is her back they brain washed her into making her think raydawn is not guilty and is like family but it makes us fight daily and raydawn and her family dont care her name is abbie please u fuckers let me have her back tnx guit the brain washing she is pregnent and should not got to the really
I am sorry for what your family is going through.
I seriously think the tactics Raye Dawn supporters use are similar to brainwashing.
There are some that have got caught up in the distortion and lies that are just to benefit and build up the people that failed a precious little girl.

You and your little boy as well as the baby on the way is more important than the time and focus
your wife spends helping a grown woman who made the irresponsible decisions that put her in the predicament she is in.

I wish you and your family the best of luck.

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