Motorists Want 100 Percent Gasoline

Plummeting gasoline prices is leaving gas station owners with a difficult decision concerning the type of fuel they sell.

[Buford Pusser]

Ethanol does not save anyone any money. Not the farmers, the oil companies, the retailers or the consumers. It actually costs everyone money. Pure gasoline IS more efficient, more friendly to our motor vehicles, lessens the impact on the food supply (corn prices) and lowers the ultimate prices on food containing corn products.
I say no more ethanol, period.

[jdbl]

Preach it Buford! Amen and pass the PURE gasoline.

[whippoorwill]

how about a real conversion combo of gas and electric cars. Saw one several years ago that got 80 miles per gallon of gaoline. It was a home made job. had a gas motor to run the alternator and the A/c compressior and 8 batteries under the small S-10 pick up bed/and an electric motor hooked up to drive the pickup for power. I checked it out and it ran good. the motor was a gas powered kohler engine. these engineers need to get their heads out of where the sun don't shine and think of simple and easy to work on cars and pickups. they only think complicated.

[whippoorwill]

By the way Buford, all the good devices that has been invented has either been bought up by big oil or the car manufactures. when a device is heard of they are soon never heard of agin. where do they go. I am speaking devices that will get better gas mileage.

[Concerned2]

Unfortunately I have a bad feeling that the new administration is going to push ethanol down our throats. Using corn as a fuel "sounds" green, even though it's far from it. If it "sounds" good and they can put a nice spin on it, I wouldn't be surprised to see federal mandates on 10-15% blends in our fuel. Stupid is as stupid does. Let's look at other legitimate energy efficient technologies.....ethanol is NOT the answer in any way, shape or form.

And yes, while we're stuck with using gasoline as a fuel, i do support the smaller stations selling 100%, non corn diluted gasoline.

[Jim Smith]

I get 2-3 mpg better with pure gas.

[Dumb Ole Country Boy]

We always wanted 100% gasoline. Remember it was QuikTrip that started fooling us by slipping in ethanol (or slipping it to us). So much so that the state of Oklahoma had to pass a law to REQUIRE the retailer to disclose ethanol mix percent.

[Zena Princess]

Gasahol will RUIN your engine!

[Charles]

There is no 100% gasoline.
All refined gasoline has one additive or another, usually MTBE which is known to poison water systems when it leaks from underground tanks.

[Charles]

Concerned2 wrote:

Unfortunately I have a bad feeling that the new administration is going to push ethanol down our throats.

...and the outgoing administration hasnt already?

[Just a Country Boy]

OK if real gas is cheaper how come the staions in Bixby charge more for it?

[old guy]

Just a Country Boy wrote:

OK if real gas is cheaper how come the staions in Bixby charge more for it?

cause they can

[bild]

no difference in mileage in my 2006 silverado.

[Andy]

There's a lot of people where I work having to get their fuel pumps replaced because of the ethanol.

[Ascent]

JaCBoy: "OK if real gas is cheaper how come the stations in Bixby charge more for it?"

It's cheaper in the long run due to the reduction of efficiency one gets with mixed gas.

For illustration's sake, lets say the pure gas is 20% more efficient than the gas mixed with ethanol. Lets say mixed gas is $1.47/gallon, while pure gas is $1.67. 10 gallons of the pure would be 16.70, but you would have to buy two extra gallons of the mixed to get the same milage as the pure, which comes to: 12 x 1.47 = 17.64.

This is an illustration of how it *could* be cheaper while being superficially more expensive to purchase pure gas. I pretty much pulled the numbers out of thin air, but the efficiency of pure gas is the principle that pure gas merchants are banking on.

[Rick Thompson]

Dumb Ole Country Boy wrote:

We always wanted 100% gasoline. Remember it was QuikTrip that started fooling us by slipping in ethanol (or slipping it to us). So much so that the state of Oklahoma had to pass a law to REQUIRE the retailer to disclose ethanol mix percent.

Not really, it was big brother. If you think it's bad now you should see the EPA's mandates for ethanol content in the next 7 years!

[kaiser]

I agree Jim Smith, I drive a cadi and I get 2-3 mpg better on the highway with 100 percent 91 octane..I have no idea around town.

[WhatsUp]

You dudes are nuts. The whole country of Brazil runs all of their cars and trucks on ethanol without any harm and they're driving the same cars and trucks we drive! It's called "FLEX FUEL" and you should look it up before going full retard.

If you want to stay dependent on Arab oil, then move to Arabia. But if you want to be free and independent like our American ancestors, you'll start brewing your own moonshine to power your cars and trucks. Just make sure you've got a FLEX FUEL vehicle and you can wave as you drive past gas stations.

"Never go full retard." - Tropic Thunder

[gods country]

the cars in brazil have no emissions. no smog,no catalytic convertors,no charcoal cannisters,etc.. they can run those cars on all types of fuels. unfortunately all cars manufactured in the us are loaded with smog equipment, they are not made to run extreme high amounts of ethanol,even the so called flex fuel cars. being in the automotive field, these flex fuel vehicles seem to have more mechanical issues than non flex fuel vehicles. so do you really save any money in the long run when you have to spend more hard earned money on maintenance? i do know that my wifes honda gets 30 mpg in town on 100% gas, and 26-27 mpg on gas with ethanol. you flex fuel lovers might smile and waive as you drive by the gas stations,but i will be still driving when your broke down on the side of the road with mechanical issues,caused by corn fuel.

[WhatsUp]

Sapulpa OK, show me documented proof that ethanol destroys today's vehicles that are designed to run on flex fuel. You can't do it because it's an old wives tale. Some of the first vehicles had problems, but the manufacturers have installed new plastics that will not break down. These are what Brazil drivers have and we can have it too.

Before spouting off, check with the current trained mechanics who work on the new flex fuel vehicles, not your backyard junk man with one tooth left. Also check with NAPA parts stores to get their opinion, since they would make a fortune if what you said is true.