DA says Oklahoma case workers overworked, underpaid

Sep 30, 2010 Full story: Tulsa World 344

OKLAHOMA CITY a ' Prosecutors say child welfare workers are overworked and underpaid and often don't work well with local law enforcement on child abuse and neglect investigations.

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Since: May 09

california

#497 Dec 21, 2011
oh, my goodness Erica halfpenny, such incendiary anger.
is this who we want to babysit our children?
By the way,
the real killer of raye dawn's baby
did not even have a criminal record.

Since: May 09

california

#498 Dec 21, 2011
hermit wrote:
But the worst part is that we have a society that as a whole doesn't really care about anyone or anybody but their own,(and many times not even their own)that will ignore so much for so long no matter how many children die.
"Fifty children - on average - continue to die annually under the care of the Department of Human Services."
http://bixbybulletin.com/news/legislators-wan...
yes the worst part is that we have a society that as a whole doesn't really care about anyone or anybody.

and that shows with at least 3,000 babies aborted each day,
you know what they say about when a dog gets the taste of blood, and to think what this does to our dwindleing supply of doctors and nurses.
Why is it legal for the whore down the street to endanger me and my children with her VD and steal my husband, home, car, and worst of all, my children!

Since: May 09

california

#499 Dec 21, 2011
at least 3,000 babies aborted each day,
you know what they say about when a dog gets the taste of blood,
and to think what this does to
our dwindling supply of doctors and nurses.
ELH

Vancouver, WA

#500 Dec 21, 2011
sue cyr wrote:
oh, my goodness Erica halfpenny, such incendiary anger.
is this who we want to babysit our children?
By the way,
the real killer of raye dawn's baby
did not even have a criminal record.
Oh dear, you must have forgotten that one of the convicted baby abusers has a criminal record for DWI. That would be the "mommy".

As fo your idiotic off topic rant...not all women are a selfish and self centered breed sows like you...breeding like a barn yard animal with any guy who comes down the pike... trapping them into marriage and bringing children into a world of chaos, poverty and mental illness. Thank God you are finally past your child bearing years.
carl

Roseburg, OR

#501 Dec 22, 2011
"Fifty children - on average - continue to die annually under the care of the Department of Human Services."
3,000 die a day under the knife of the girls doctor.
.
.
they are taught to dump their babies for mere convenience.
think convenience store..
.
very popular this convenience store,
.
The reality children who are raised in a one child household do not know how to parent when it becomes
inconvenient.
WTF

Vancouver, WA

#502 Dec 23, 2011
"Carl", This thread is about DHS if you want to rant about abortion find a thread about that topic.

BTW, you sound exactly like this other offtopic nut who posts her by the name of Sue Cyr/YaMeVoy...are you her new boyfriend? I hear Sue has been "celibate" for the past 35 years...So, are you getting any?
carl

Roseburg, OR

#503 Dec 25, 2011
WHAT wrote:
Haha care more about the money?? Where I live, entry level(4 year bachelor's degree,BSW) case workers get paid $15 an hour.
Try being a case worker for one day. Social work is a field with the highest rate of burnout. It is very simple to look in from the outside and make judgments. I know many social workers who take their work home with them and are still swamped. Granted, there are bad social workers, but don't generalize all of them.
I am just tired of people ragging on social workers. We are never appreciated for what we do. We work hard and never get a thanks, but as soon as a bad case surfaces, it's send all social workers to the guillotine. You have children constantly cursing and screaming at you when you are simply trying to do you job. Maybe if people would stop abusing their children there wouldn't be a need for case workers.
burn out from the stress of the job, I know a woman who got burned out from the stress of the university training before she got the job,
there was a young man in the university town fishing and had his child on the dock with him and some how it fell in the water and sunk it disappeared before he could see, and they got him for murder. and this stressed the university student out so much that she quit,
and to think that the best workers put their heart in their job and are more likely to be traumatized by death of a child.
ELH

Vancouver, WA

#504 Dec 25, 2011
wow "carl", you sound just exactly like this other total nut job who sometimes posts on TOPIX.
carl wrote:
<quoted text>
there was a young man in the university town fishing and had his child on the dock with him and some how it fell in the water and sunk it disappeared before he could see, and they got him for murder.
It this a case that The innocence project has taken on? If this is actually true, and there isn't lots more to the story than you bother to post, they probably would...

So do contact them and meanwhile do POST A LINK because the internet is full of stories about a guy who knew a guy who lived next door to another guy who was unjustly accused.
hermit

Tulsa, OK

#505 Dec 25, 2011
The jury in the Whitecrow child's death case found Amy Holder guilty but refused to send her to jail because as they stated publicly "several others", said to be DHS workers were also responsible for the child's death but the state refused to acknowledge such or hold them accountable.

Why did DHS worker Donald Wheeler,(involved in several child death cases) commit suicide after contacting a lawyer fight his dismissal from DHS over a child's death this year.

Since: May 09

california

#508 Jan 4, 2012
who knew the stepdad [Mike Porter] was mean to kelsey when no one was around?
only when they got a court order to check his computer did they find this:
http://www.scribd.com/full/55142766...
none

Broken Arrow, OK

#510 Jan 30, 2012
Hey, maybe the system is broken but there are thousands of good people working within this system that are doing what they are told and cry at night over what is happening. Don't persecute the people that went into this profession to save kids. Their hands are tied many times. Walk in their shoes!
DVO wrote:
No kidding! It seems like they care more about money than they do about the kids! I think it's like that no matter where you live!
hermit

United States

#511 Jan 30, 2012
none wrote:
Hey, maybe the system is broken but there are thousands of good people working within this system that are doing what they are told and cry at night over what is happening. Don't persecute the people that went into this profession to save kids. Their hands are tied many times. Walk in their shoes!
<quoted text>
Weak B.S. cop out, if indeed their hands are tied then they should becoming forward and letting the truth be known, if they don't they're being complicit in the situation to keep their job.

If you can't take the heat, change shoes.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#512 Jan 31, 2012
none wrote:
Hey, maybe the system is broken but there are thousands of good people working within this system that are doing what they are told and cry at night over what is happening. Don't persecute the people that went into this profession to save kids. Their hands are tied many times. Walk in their shoes!
<quoted text>
Those thousand good people you are talking about could change what is wrong and make the difference. All it would take is standing up for what is right. Sadly those thousand people you are talking about does exactly what you said, goes home and crys, and does nothing to help change things.
Noones hands are tied, don't you get that? It is a choice, you either go home and cry about it or you get off your arse and do something about it. How about some of those workers walk in the childrens shoes? Doubt those workers could handle it.
hermit

Tulsa, OK

#513 Jan 31, 2012
When you check the records and find out that many DHS workers have been arrested and not charged, had a case dismissed, or get only probation for multiple felonies it makes one wonder if they're treated differently to keep them quiet.
hermit

Tulsa, OK

#514 Feb 1, 2012
Here's the latest one we're all paying for...

State pays $92,500 in DHS settlement for boy's death

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx ...

A local researcher/advocate informed me that DHS worker Kristaline Sands was a named defendant in the above lawsuit.

"DHS worker arrested twice in 24 hours"

http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor-news-dhs -...
DanaL

Oklahoma City, OK

#515 Feb 2, 2012
**********THOUGHT FOR THE DAY**********
When a person who is honestly mistaken is confronted with the truth they must either cease to be mistaken, or cease to be honest. Deep down inside a person knows which side of the fence they are truly on. Some will spend the rest of their lives trying to convince themselves and others that what they know is true, is truly not. They can't live with the truth, and they will do their best to divert others away from the truth (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain). They see what is real and deep down inside it makes them sick. Yet they do nothing because they are too busy, and don't want the same thing to happen to them. Instead of standing up for what is right, they really just don't care as long as it is not happening to them. So in the meantime let's just close our eyes or get rid of what keeps reminding us of what is really REAL.(unfortunately that is the way most people think). SAD BUT TRUE
Dana
January 6, 2012

“DHS steals children for Money”

Since: Aug 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#516 Feb 2, 2012
**********THOUGHT FOR THE DAY**********
When a person who is honestly mistaken is confronted with the truth they must either cease to be mistaken, or cease to be honest. Deep down inside a person knows which side of the fence they are truly on. Some will spend the rest of their lives trying to convince themselves and others that what they know is true, is truly not. They can't live with the truth, and they will do their best to divert others away from the truth (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain). They see what is real and deep down inside it makes them sick. Yet they do nothing because they are too busy, and don't want the same thing to happen to them. Instead of standing up for what is right, they really just don't care as long as it is not happening to them. So in the meantime let's just close our eyes or get rid of what keeps reminding us of what is really REAL.(unfortunately that is the way most people think). SAD BUT TRUE
Dana
January 6, 2012
DanaL

Oklahoma City, OK

#518 Feb 2, 2012
I have just uncovered that topix is a censored site. If I post under my account name the posts disappear but if I post under a sirname the post comes up clearly.
mcmamma

United States

#519 Feb 2, 2012
Where I live that's about $14.00 an hour too much, and you do get what you pay for.
WHAT wrote:
Haha care more about the money?? Where I live, entry level(4 year bachelor's degree,BSW) case workers get paid $15 an hour.
Try being a case worker for one day. Social work is a field with the highest rate of burnout. It is very simple to look in from the outside and make judgments. I know many social workers who take their work home with them and are still swamped. Granted, there are bad social workers, but don't generalize all of them.
I am just tired of people ragging on social workers. We are never appreciated for what we do. We work hard and never get a thanks, but as soon as a bad case surfaces, it's send all social workers to the guillotine. You have children constantly cursing and screaming at you when you are simply trying to do you job. Maybe if people would stop abusing their children there wouldn't be a need for case workers.

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

http://hallcase.bravehost.com

#520 Feb 3, 2012
DanaL wrote:
**********THOUGHT FOR THE DAY**********
When a person who is honestly mistaken is confronted with the truth they must either cease to be mistaken, or cease to be honest. Deep down inside a person knows which side of the fence they are truly on. Some will spend the rest of their lives trying to convince themselves and others that what they know is true, is truly not. They can't live with the truth, and they will do their best to divert others away from the truth (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain). They see what is real and deep down inside it makes them sick. Yet they do nothing because they are too busy, and don't want the same thing to happen to them. Instead of standing up for what is right, they really just don't care as long as it is not happening to them. So in the meantime let's just close our eyes or get rid of what keeps reminding us of what is really REAL.(unfortunately that is the way most people think). SAD BUT TRUE
Dana
January 6, 2012
So true!

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