Drought to cause food shortages, and...

Drought to cause food shortages, and shortage of water supplies,

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pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#1 Jul 25, 2012
Look for the cost of food prices to go up as there will be less wheat, corn, and other food crops as they dry up in the fields as theri is no rain. Theeir will also be a shortage of soy beans this year and maybe the drought will carryover into nest years causing even more damage to food crops and the beed market as beef is sold off. The drought will also cuase a rise in the cost of animal feed beef, chickens and hogs driving up the cost of meat products as the dought continues and there is little to no rain. And as the water storage lake levels go down there may be some people end up without a source of drinking water. Som communities ended up last year with their water supply scource drying up. thsoe communities ended up looking for another source of water upply for theri communities. A lack of water source can also effect your electric companies generating plants as their supply of cooling water gets low. And be sure to enjoy thsoe electric bropun outs because of a lack of generating plants to overcome the population growth in your state. As there has probably been no new generating plants build in your state as in texas for years. Enjoy the summer heat this year. because it may be hotter and dryer.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#2 Jul 27, 2012
pappy wrote:
Look for the cost of food prices to go up as there will be less wheat, corn, and other food crops as they dry up in the fields as theri is no rain. Theeir will also be a shortage of soy beans this year and maybe the drought will carryover into nest years causing even more damage to food crops and the beed market as beef is sold off. The drought will also cuase a rise in the cost of animal feed beef, chickens and hogs driving up the cost of meat products as the dought continues and there is little to no rain. And as the water storage lake levels go down there may be some people end up without a source of drinking water. Som communities ended up last year with their water supply scource drying up. thsoe communities ended up looking for another source of water upply for theri communities. A lack of water source can also effect your electric companies generating plants as their supply of cooling water gets low. And be sure to enjoy thsoe electric bropun outs because of a lack of generating plants to overcome the population growth in your state. As there has probably been no new generating plants build in your state as in texas for years. Enjoy the summer heat this year. because it may be hotter and dryer.
You need a new keyboard. Bad.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#3 Jul 28, 2012
Ned more than a kew keyboard. But I woill get a new one in about a week when I get to town. This key board is heating up all the time. But as for the drought we may end up having a ood hortage if the heat coontinuesinto next year we may end up having a food shortage as the storage of soybeans corn and other food crops has falllen way short of last years. I also need smaller fingers.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#4 Jul 28, 2012
Is you suppply ofdrinking water evaporating OK?

“Byte into an Apple”

Since: May 12

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#5 Jul 29, 2012
We shouldn't have to be suffering food shortages if it weren't for the people who don't care about the environment and believe global warming doesn't exist.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#6 Jul 29, 2012
queenie, a lo of people want to not believe in global warming. But the eath at times has atendency to move its orbit closer to the sun. And thsi causes the earth to be hotter. The earthhas been going through gl;obal warming, growing hotter and even colder at different times in teh past and it shall do so in teh fture. It is jsut afact in the life of the earth. If what I seen in the papers there has been over 40,000 records broken in the heat of the temperture of the earth just thsi year alone. Did you know that even garbage is a factor in ones life that shows whether or not we are in a stable economy or not. the more garbage throw away the better the economy--more people buying, the less garbage thrown away shows a decline in buyiing and an a not so good economy to a bad economy. These are jsut facts of life we face every day. And who cares about garbage or gives it another though--- its just something you throw in the garbage can to be hauled to the dump.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#7 Jul 30, 2012
BROvahqueen wrote:
We shouldn't have to be suffering food shortages if it weren't for the people who don't care about the environment and believe global warming doesn't exist.
Those non-believers are sure heating the world up fast. Let's not bring up the fact that the U.K. produces WAY more CO2 than the U.S..

“Byte into an Apple”

Since: May 12

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#8 Jul 31, 2012
DistinctlyOK wrote:
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Those non-believers are sure heating the world up fast. Let's not bring up the fact that the U.K. produces WAY more CO2 than the U.S..
You should note sarcasm on your replies if you don't intend to contribute anything useful to the discussion. I already know you disagree with pappy. I could care less.

Pappy unfortunately no one takes care of our planet. Soon the cost of meat, poultry and dairy products will rise significantly as well as the cost of corn and other grown agricultural food products. I drove through Kansas and Colorado. In Kansas the growth of corn looked horrible compared to that of Colorado. Colorado's corn was much taller and not very famished looking.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#9 Jul 31, 2012
BROvahqueen wrote:
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You should note sarcasm on your replies if you don't intend to contribute anything useful to the discussion. I already know you disagree with pappy. I could care less.
Pappy unfortunately no one takes care of our planet. Soon the cost of meat, poultry and dairy products will rise significantly as well as the cost of corn and other grown agricultural food products. I drove through Kansas and Colorado. In Kansas the growth of corn looked horrible compared to that of Colorado. Colorado's corn was much taller and not very famished looking.
I would contribute, but unfortunately this string is so ridiculous it's hardly worth mention.

Namely, the state of Wisconsin's paying farmers out to grow less and use new methods/chemicals/etc. Chemical treatment's horrible, and I wish to God that people would move to natural production. Unfortunately, farming communities in cooperation with the government have utilized chemicals so widely that insect and plague resistance are becoming a problem. What you see in Kansas is most likely chemically treated produce.

Nonetheless, it doesn't have to do with CO2, that's just silly. The greenhouse effect would work both ways if CO2 was as hyperactive as people claim it is. Chemically, CO2 can potentially block UVR, but who says it only traps it in the atmosphere? Wouldn't it first filter and deflect UVR in the Atmosphere? I'd be more concerned with the widening gaps in the Ozone than CO2. I'd be more worried about India's use of CFC's.

“Byte into an Apple”

Since: May 12

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#10 Jul 31, 2012
DistinctlyOK wrote:
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I would contribute, but unfortunately this string is so ridiculous it's hardly worth mention.
Namely, the state of Wisconsin's paying farmers out to grow less and use new methods/chemicals/etc. Chemical treatment's horrible, and I wish to God that people would move to natural production. Unfortunately, farming communities in cooperation with the government have utilized chemicals so widely that insect and plague resistance are becoming a problem. What you see in Kansas is most likely chemically treated produce.
Nonetheless, it doesn't have to do with CO2, that's just silly. The greenhouse effect would work both ways if CO2 was as hyperactive as people claim it is. Chemically, CO2 can potentially block UVR, but who says it only traps it in the atmosphere? Wouldn't it first filter and deflect UVR in the Atmosphere? I'd be more concerned with the widening gaps in the Ozone than CO2. I'd be more worried about India's use of CFC's.
It maybe ridiculous to you! But anyway the cause of droughts and water shortages aside from losing products the ozone is the main reason why the its been so hot. The hole in the ozone I can imagine has become larger from the last time I checked. All these chemicals destroy it there causing for the earth to heat up in one specific area and causing significant climate change. I've on one occasion ready about CO2 or this greenhouse effect you speak off. Its effects aren't as detrimental compared to what the damage to the ozone does.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#11 Jul 31, 2012
BROvahqueen wrote:
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It maybe ridiculous to you! But anyway the cause of droughts and water shortages aside from losing products the ozone is the main reason why the its been so hot. The hole in the ozone I can imagine has become larger from the last time I checked. All these chemicals destroy it there causing for the earth to heat up in one specific area and causing significant climate change. I've on one occasion ready about CO2 or this greenhouse effect you speak off. Its effects aren't as detrimental compared to what the damage to the ozone does.
The United States federally banned CFC's a while ago. The chemical damages from pesticides and herbicides occurs within the soil and water mains that the Earth itself provides, not the Ozone of the atmosphere.

However, CFC's are still widely used in other nations, and THAT'S a problem.

Crop treatments destroy habitats within our living spaces, and that should be addressed accordingly.

Nonetheless, Global Warming will statistically reach dangerous levels many centuries after the Earth supposedly overpopulates.

In other words, the pressing issues are within damage to the Ozone and damage to natural habitats, not Global Warming.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#12 Jul 31, 2012
Just in case you folks have not noticed it the price of a bushel of corn has risen to over 8 dollars per bushel. Even some ethonol plants have shut down because of a lack of corn and the price. Even the price of chicken feed has risen as has the cotton seed mill and other feed stock that ranchers and farmers feed to their cattle and hogs. Which in turn drives up the meat prices in your favorite grocery store. And thatproduct will continue to rise evn further driven by the shortage and the speculators looking for even more profits on a tight market. Some food stuffs will become to pricy for some to buy groceries off the store shelves. Hear that the paper plant in valliant is running full blast in Valliant Ok. , and the roads are full of logging trucks hauling logs----which means that there will be more stumped out land that used to be forest.

“Byte into an Apple”

Since: May 12

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#13 Aug 1, 2012
DistinctlyOK wrote:
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The United States federally banned CFC's a while ago. The chemical damages from pesticides and herbicides occurs within the soil and water mains that the Earth itself provides, not the Ozone of the atmosphere.
However, CFC's are still widely used in other nations, and THAT'S a problem.
Crop treatments destroy habitats within our living spaces, and that should be addressed accordingly.
Nonetheless, Global Warming will statistically reach dangerous levels many centuries after the Earth supposedly overpopulates.
In other words, the pressing issues are within damage to the Ozone and damage to natural habitats, not Global Warming.
Both of these environmental problems do, however, have a common cause—human activities that release gases into and alter the atmosphere. Ozone depletion occurs when chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)—formerly found in aerosol spray cans and refrigerants—are released into the atmosphere. These gases, through several chemical reactions, cause the ozone molecules to break down, reducing ozone's ultraviolet (UV) radiation-absorbing capacity.

Because our atmosphere is one connected system, it is not surprising that ozone depletion and global warming are related in other ways. For example, evidence suggests that climate change may contribute to thinning of the protective ozone layer.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#14 Aug 1, 2012
pappy wrote:
Just in case you folks have not noticed it the price of a bushel of corn has risen to over 8 dollars per bushel. Even some ethonol plants have shut down because of a lack of corn and the price. Even the price of chicken feed has risen as has the cotton seed mill and other feed stock that ranchers and farmers feed to their cattle and hogs. Which in turn drives up the meat prices in your favorite grocery store. And thatproduct will continue to rise evn further driven by the shortage and the speculators looking for even more profits on a tight market. Some food stuffs will become to pricy for some to buy groceries off the store shelves. Hear that the paper plant in valliant is running full blast in Valliant Ok., and the roads are full of logging trucks hauling logs----which means that there will be more stumped out land that used to be forest.
I suppose you'll eventually explain to me why the FDA's sister agencies are paying farmers to grow and raise less foodstuffs, then.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#15 Aug 1, 2012
BROvahqueen wrote:
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Both of these environmental problems do, however, have a common cause—human activities that release gases into and alter the atmosphere. Ozone depletion occurs when chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)—formerly found in aerosol spray cans and refrigerants—are released into the atmosphere. These gases, through several chemical reactions, cause the ozone molecules to break down, reducing ozone's ultraviolet (UV) radiation-absorbing capacity.
Because our atmosphere is one connected system, it is not surprising that ozone depletion and global warming are related in other ways. For example, evidence suggests that climate change may contribute to thinning of the protective ozone layer.
We no longer use CFCs in aerosol or refridgerants.

“Byte into an Apple”

Since: May 12

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#16 Aug 1, 2012
DistinctlyOK wrote:
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We no longer use CFCs in aerosol or refridgerants.
I'm referring to the time they did. It did effect it either way up until present day even though they allegedly no longer use CFCs.

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#17 Aug 1, 2012
BROvahqueen wrote:
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I'm referring to the time they did. It did effect it either way up until present day even though they allegedly no longer use CFCs.
True, and the damage persists from U.S. CFC use. CO2 is much less of a threat than other nations still using CFCs.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#18 Aug 1, 2012
DistinctlyOK wrote:
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I suppose you'll eventually explain to me why the FDA's sister agencies are paying farmers to grow and raise less foodstuffs, then.
OK, they call it diaster relief---the large corporate farmers make a killing off of it. Knew one cattle rancher that got to buy hisself a new truck every 2 to 3 years on di=aster relif and other farm subsidies. But I do believe he just up and dies some time back when his crops failed him. Do you think they are not going to take goverment subsidies. But there is one program I know of that paid farmers not to plant--the idea was to not overplant. the program as to keep crop prices profitable. May still be around. Thats another reason we have the commodities programs and the food stamp program----the grocers came up with the idea of sharing in the different food programs and wanted their cuts of the commodities programs and foo stamps were invented years ago. Without food stamps the grocery store chains would lose a big part of their profits as well as the farmers crop prices would go down if the food stamp programp was cut to much. Ever wonder why the grocers needed lobbyist when every one needs food to survive--money and largr profits adds up tofood stamp programs.
Senator Inbred INHOFE

Tulsa, OK

#19 Aug 2, 2012
Aint no such thing as gobal warming or drawt, i lernt dis and 3 rs in younivercity of tulsa were i gurtitated from, injoy the wether amigo

Since: Jul 12

Oklahoma City, OK

#20 Aug 2, 2012
Senator Inbred INHOFE wrote:
Aint no such thing as gobal warming or drawt, i lernt dis and 3 rs in younivercity of tulsa were i gurtitated from, injoy the wether amigo
Funny, but I must digress due to the obvious sarcasm in your commentary. I am about to graduate with a degree in client-side software, and I'm confident that global warming isn't nearly as massive an issue as people make it out to be.

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