does anyone know thurman or edwin young

[FaithTabCurrent Member]

Bruce wrote:

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True -- but guns in church, beating children, taking all your money, giving you an allowance, forbidding friendships outside the church, forced labor -- Young and his honchos have become frightening, wicked men. God has long departed.
Hard to tell the truth when the demons are looking you in the face and God is nowhere to be seen.
All hope abandon ye who enter here.

Bruce, have you attended this church before? I would think you haven't because Pastor Young says himself that he would not want the job of managing our money.......Yes, it brings a laugh to us, but when you think of what kind of work it would take to manage the finances of 500 or more people then Pastor Young should definitely be the President of the USA because I myself drive a very nice car, have my own house, earned a bachelor's degree, have my own business, go on vacations, fly more than twice a year, spend my own money and the list goes on. He would have a time with my allowance alone, not to mention all the others who attend our Church. Come visit and see for yourself. Ignorance is not becoming of you....Don't come just to judge, but come to hear the word of God and if you find fault then don't come back. The doors remain unlocked. It is a fire hazard to do otherwise. Don't believe the hype..........
I would say take it easy, but you need to take it seriously.

[Lost in Illinois]

O.K. How's that?? I also like to use this name also. You said it, " BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT GOD WANTS THERE. "

FaithTabCurrent Member wrote:

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Bro Thompson, Why do you call yourself "Ex"? You do know that if God gives mercy to you, you can be restored? It is not His will that any man perish, so do what you must to take the "Ex" off of your name..........Praying for you Man.

[FaithTabCurrent Member]

Lost in Illinois wrote:

O.K. How's that?? I also like to use this name also. You said it, " BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT GOD WANTS THERE. "<quoted text>

I was talking about wanting at Faith Tabernacle. Also, I was asking EX Bro Thompson why does he refer to himself as an "Ex". Does this bother you? May I ask why do you call yourself lost? Do you feel like you are lost? I am truly just asking. Not trying to offend you Sir/Ma'am. I think you are a Sir, are you?

[FaithTabCurrent Member]

ummm wrote:

So the Ushers at this church carry guns? What kind of whacked out Cult are we talking about here? Where in the bible does it say that you can't watch or play team sports?
I have a million questions, but obviously no one from the church will be on here because teh internets is tha devil.

Hi Ummm, I am a current member, so go ahead and ask.......... I hope they are intelligent and really questions of curiosity. We all have nothing to hide. One more thing, I want this to be clear that I don't stand as an ambassador or nothing and I have not been appointed to answer such things, but a question is a question and if I have an answer I will give it.

[Lost in Illinois]

No I'm not lost. I talk to my Jesus everyday. He probably gets tired of me saying the same thing but what can I say. He delivered me from alcohol, tobacco, and Ole Mary Jane 9 years ago Sep. the 15th. Took my job on the river away from me and put me in a little apartment.Been praying for a lottery win so I can buy a log cabin in the mountains of North Carolina. I stay pretty isolated here in my little apartment in Noble, Illinois but the mountains would just be awesome. Maybe he will get tired of me asking someday and dump a truck load of money on me.

FaithTabCurrent Member wrote:

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I was talking about wanting at Faith Tabernacle. Also, I was asking EX Bro Thompson why does he refer to himself as an "Ex". Does this bother you? May I ask why do you call yourself lost? Do you feel like you are lost? I am truly just asking. Not trying to offend you Sir/Ma'am. I think you are a Sir, are you?

[Jim]

You pray for "money" lol!

People are starving to death and people are suffering with horrible diseases.

And you have the balls to ask the Lord for "money"

He's right! You guys ARE nuts!

[Lost in Illinois]

Whatever.

Jim wrote:

You pray for "money" lol!
People are starving to death and people are suffering with horrible diseases.
And you have the balls to ask the Lord for "money"
He's right! You guys ARE nuts!

[Jim]

You call yourself a Christian????

What a joke. Praying for "money"

I wonder what Jesus would say. With all the suffering in the world, Mr. Selfish wants money! lol!

[Lost in Illinois]

Whatever Jimbo.

[matt foley]

FaithTabCurrent Member wrote:

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You are showing you ignorance here Matt. Brother Ayala is in Kansas with a thriving church. He is in REVIVAL. You better watch yourself because you ever heard the saying "if you tease about an ugly baby, you will have one too" A little humorous, but there is a river near you too.....

What does a thriving church mean to faith tab? does that mean Ayala is "fleecing his flock" out of their paychecks? I worked with him before he became a preacher, when I asked him why he kept trading for newer cars his reply was that if he had more payments he wouldn't have to give as much to the church. He might be wearing a Rolex by now!

[Lost in Illinois]

You evidently did not know the same God fearing man that I knew back in the 80's. I'll just forget you said that and ignore the rest of your fantasy dreams.

matt foley wrote:

<quoted text> What does a thriving church mean to faith tab? does that mean Ayala is "fleecing his flock" out of their paychecks? I worked with him before he became a preacher, when I asked him why he kept trading for newer cars his reply was that if he had more payments he wouldn't have to give as much to the church. He might be wearing a Rolex by now!

[Truth]

If he taught you to "pray for money" and you do it, then you're all NUTS!

I heard, and this may be untrue, because it's just a "rumor" - but I heard that one of the leaders of FT in the early 90's - I dunno his name - he taught that no member of the church could own a TV - but when his OWN house was visited, word got out that he had, not only a TV, but a BIGSCREEN in his living room!

NUTS!

[unknown tab goer]

I have been in this church many times. And one thing I know is the people who go there are very snobby. They are very quick to talk about other people and their sins.
But yet they do no wrong. they sin just like any other nomal human. And because of how they treat out siders I will never return to faith tab

[Forgiven and Always Loved]

EPhillips wrote:

<quoted text>Yes I do live in TX but I am from JC. The bottom line is when I was doing all that screaming and stuff about stalking was incorrect and so I am coming back to make it right. Even though I know about the church &pastor . In the previous comments I should have never responded the way I did. To make it personal is wrong. Especially with being a believer in Christ. So again I apologize. Just trying to make it right. The stuff that was on the site was the truth,and it was a warning site to not become a member of the church. However because all the controversy surrounding me. I felt it was best to delete the site for now. Need to pray and get clear direction for the future. So again I apologize for the confusion. Whatever is going on in Faith Tab even if they have guns..the only ones who truly know is them. I am done with all of it..Let it be

You know anger and frustration are a terrible thing and anyone with the mind of christ will understand that there are things that you know and they dont that bother you to this day. Unfortunatly, people will defend this church because they dont see what you do and the church is so big not everyone is privy to the things going on behind the scenes. Also, those who have not been hurt will not see anything wrong until it happens to them and thats how it works in this life. I pray for them but in the end it will be God who decides whose eyes will open and whose will remain shut. Sometimes people question how others will get to heaven simply because they have not heard the gospel; in Faith Tab they hear it, they just dont pursue it. The other problem is that there is truth mixed in with false teaching. See the dilema? If they feel wanted and accepted why leave? The Holy Ghost is not an emotion filled experience that sets you into convulsions or fits (Gal 5:22) but moves a believer into action for the kingdom of heaven outside of the church. Their understanding of salvation and basic christian doctrin is incorrect, flawed due to lack of study. What we have to understand Ephillips is that there are thousands of people like them around the world and people leave and enter this denomination (Cult) everyday. Thank God for his righteousness for there is no sin in him who judges justly. He hears us all who pray for the freedom of those who are kept in darkness but the ones who willing stay, stay at the cost of their soul. We should pray that they come to the full understanding of Salvation according to the word of God. You are fine and loved by those who are in love with God, our father in heaven. This life will end and i will see you in heaven sister in christ.

[EPhillips]

Forgiven and Always Loved wrote:

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You know anger and frustration are a terrible thing and anyone with the mind of christ will understand that there are things that you know and they dont that bother you to this day. Unfortunatly, people will defend this church because they dont see what you do and the church is so big not everyone is privy to the things going on behind the scenes. Also, those who have not been hurt will not see anything wrong until it happens to them and thats how it works in this life. I pray for them but in the end it will be God who decides whose eyes will open and whose will remain shut. Sometimes people question how others will get to heaven simply because they have not heard the gospel; in Faith Tab they hear it, they just dont pursue it. The other problem is that there is truth mixed in with false teaching. See the dilema? If they feel wanted and accepted why leave? The Holy Ghost is not an emotion filled experience that sets you into convulsions or fits (Gal 5:22) but moves a believer into action for the kingdom of heaven outside of the church. Their understanding of salvation and basic christian doctrin is incorrect, flawed due to lack of study. What we have to understand Ephillips is that there are thousands of people like them around the world and people leave and enter this denomination (Cult) everyday. Thank God for his righteousness for there is no sin in him who judges justly. He hears us all who pray for the freedom of those who are kept in darkness but the ones who willing stay, stay at the cost of their soul. We should pray that they come to the full understanding of Salvation according to the word of God. You are fine and loved by those who are in love with God, our father in heaven. This life will end and i will see you in heaven sister in christ.

Bottom line is I was wrong and out of order with all of the comments that I put on here. I thought I was doing a good thing by speaking out,but I was wrong and had no buisness speaking against Pastor Young. I was focusing on negativity and things that I have heard and I was wrong and regret it. I already called the pastor to apologize . I really believe I briefly lost my good sense due to the fact of the stuff I put on this site. I just got carried away and made some grievious mistakes. So to all that have been affected again I apologize . I feel horrible. As far as I know the church and pastor is fine and there is nothing to fear or to be angry about..I was just being hyped about nothing. One thing I have learned in all of this is to mind my own buisness,and to not think more highly of myself then I ought to,and if I am really concerned then call the person,which I failed to do. God Bless U ALL and made this thread be SILENCED forever on this apology note.

[Lost in Illinois]

In Jesus Name, Amen, Amen, Amen...........

[Tom]

OK, EPhillips, if you really want to make it right, click on the "report abuse" tab and pay to remove this discussion board. It is only $20.00. A very small price to pay to remove what has become a very bad discussion about some good people that are really just trying to help those that come to them.

[EPhillips]

Tom wrote:

OK, EPhillips, if you really want to make it right, click on the "report abuse" tab and pay to remove this discussion board. It is only $20.00. A very small price to pay to remove what has become a very bad discussion about some good people that are really just trying to help those that come to them.

I hit the report abuse tab on the comments.
When I made the comments on here about me being stalked I really believed it..and I was not in my right mind. I was briefly hospitalized . I praise God for bringing me back to my senses! The whole ordeal was embarrassing and scary . The bottom line is the blog site should have never been started and I went overboard on the comments on here when I was in my right mind. I am very serious about these comments and repented before God about them and to the pastor and whoever else I could think of. The site was deleted and I wish to God It was never even started or promoted because it was focusing on the negative. Warning come before destruction! Anyway again I apologize and will continue to do what I can do to make this right. God Bless

[Steamboat]

The Devil made you do it.

[John]

John 3:16