Russian demonstrators rally in suppor...

Russian demonstrators rally in support of U.S. adoption ban

There are 114 comments on the The Baltimore Sun story from Mar 2, 2013, titled Russian demonstrators rally in support of U.S. adoption ban. In it, The Baltimore Sun reports that:

People march in favor of U.S. adoption ban People march during a rally in support of a ban on U.S. adoptions in Moscow, March 2, 2013.

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Since: Mar 09

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#1 Mar 2, 2013
It seems that Putin's private summer camp shock troops are paying off for PR purposes.

Who in hell demonstrates in favor of an already existing Law???

In the USA we mean something very different when we say "transparent".

“Trust no one in politics.”

Since: Apr 08

Pompano Beach, FL

#2 Mar 2, 2013
snyper wrote:
It seems that Putin's private summer camp shock troops are paying off for PR purposes.

Who in hell demonstrates in favor of an already existing Law???

In the USA we mean something very different when we say "transparent".
Why do you care about internal Russian politics? Are you and your gay husband looking to "adopt" a little boy from eastern Europe? You should learn to respect the democratic process in other nations.

Since: Mar 09

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#3 Mar 2, 2013
uther pendragon wrote:
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Why do you care about internal Russian politics? Are you and your gay husband looking to "adopt" a little boy from eastern Europe? You should learn to respect the democratic process in other nations.
An adoption ban on another Nation is hardly "internal" politics.

Again, why does anyone "demonstrate" FOR a Law that is ALREADY PASSED?

That wasn't a demonstration as much as it was a Putin strut.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#4 Mar 2, 2013
the question, why do you care about internal Russian politics, was asked. the world today is so interconnected now what ever happens in any nation affects nations around and sometimes hemispheres and world. case in point, do you have any idea who was affected when the Twin towers in NYC fell. a woman in Malaysia is still mourning her son, a businessman, who died in that act of terrorism. that wasnt just an attack on America, many countries were represented in those buildings by the deaths and mothers, fathers, siblings, aunts, uncles around the world mourned the loss of family members but what happens in Russia only affects Russians. Fraid not, not in this day and time. we are all travelers on this spaceship called earth. WW2 didnt just affect Russia and/or America. it affected the world which is why it was called World War 2. this aint 1513 but 2013.

Since: Mar 09

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#5 Mar 2, 2013
dunadd wrote:
the question, why do you care about internal Russian politics, was asked. the world today is so interconnected now what ever happens in any nation affects nations around and sometimes hemispheres and world. case in point, do you have any idea who was affected when the Twin towers in NYC fell. a woman in Malaysia is still mourning her son, a businessman, who died in that act of terrorism. that wasnt just an attack on America, many countries were represented in those buildings by the deaths and mothers, fathers, siblings, aunts, uncles around the world mourned the loss of family members but what happens in Russia only affects Russians. Fraid not, not in this day and time. we are all travelers on this spaceship called earth. WW2 didnt just affect Russia and/or America. it affected the world which is why it was called World War 2. this aint 1513 but 2013.
*BIG hug*

THAT was excellent.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#6 Mar 3, 2013
thanks, snyper, i am glad you recognise the truth and acknowledge it. i see nothing wrong with nationalism as in being proud to be Russian or American or whatever one's nationality but dont carry it to extremes where yours is the only good. There are good and bad in all nationalities and groups. i am not denigrating anyone but i notice a lot of Russians live in the old Bonaparte days, wary of Europeans marching to the gates of Moscow but those days are over. it aint gonna happen. i think Putin and others in the Kremlin realise this. this isn't the days of riding on horseback cutting down with sabres and lances but this is the era of total annihilation in which no one wins because everybody is dead. there were winners in wars of old but in this time of sophisticated weaponry capable of total destruction of everybody and everything on earth, humans need to try a different approach than the forefathers. Russia, US, Europe, China, Japan. India and other nations with nuclear weapons know there are no winners with nuclear war. the problem is with the smaller nations, countries and terrorists who dont realise or care the scope of destruction they are messing with. in the days of Hussars and primitive weaponry there were winners and losers. in this day of total destruction there are no winners. everybody dead.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#7 Mar 3, 2013
dunadd,
That's why those buildings were called the "World Trade Center". ALL are lucky that they attacked in the early morning instead of mid-morning or mid-afternoon or tens of thousands would have died.
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#8 Mar 3, 2013
dunadd wrote:
the question, why do you care about internal Russian politics, was asked. the world today is so interconnected now what ever happens in any nation affects nations around and sometimes hemispheres and world. case in point, do you have any idea who was affected when the Twin towers in NYC fell. a woman in Malaysia is still mourning her son, a businessman, who died in that act of terrorism. that wasnt just an attack on America, many countries were represented in those buildings by the deaths and mothers, fathers, siblings, aunts, uncles around the world mourned the loss of family members but what happens in Russia only affects Russians. Fraid not, not in this day and time. we are all travelers on this spaceship called earth. WW2 didnt just affect Russia and/or America. it affected the world which is why it was called World War 2. this aint 1513 but 2013.
Indeed. If the Carter and Reagan administrations had not involved the USA in Afghanistan's internal politics perhaps the secular Soviet backed government in Kabul would have survived. By supporting Islamic mujahedeen we laid the groundwork for 9/11. Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri were on our payroll.

You are quite correct. We should stay out of other nations and their internal politics.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#9 Mar 3, 2013
Yes, swg, you are correct.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#10 Mar 3, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed. If the Carter and Reagan administrations had not involved the USA in Afghanistan's internal politics perhaps the secular Soviet backed government in Kabul would have survived. By supporting Islamic mujahedeen we laid the groundwork for 9/11. Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri were on our payroll.
You are quite correct. We should stay out of other nations and their internal politics.
Then so should have the USSR Uther..........
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#11 Mar 3, 2013
why always bring in cooking corned beef when asking kielbasa recipes. always mixing things. i am not mixing internal affairs with cooperation between nations and governments. the title of post is about Russia banning adoptions of children to American couples. That is decision of Russian government but in the same respect when child went to America after which died, that is concern of authorities in America. if situation was reversed it would be the same. the dude in Florida acts like the 911 event would never happened if America had left Russia alone in afghanistan but anyone with any sense knows muslims hate the Great satan and would have attacked America no matter what took place. that's like blaming America being in Afgahanistan for the bombing of the Beslan school. muslims are going to attack US and Russia no matter who does what. muslims kill like kangaroos hop and elephants trumpet through their noses. muzzies have been attacking everybody for 1300+ years and Russia, US nor anyone has to do anything for them to attack again and again continually. all this blaming and finger pointing accomplishes is hard feelings. Russia and US could do nothing against muslims from this day forward and they will still attack. the muslims war against all humanity is endless, no end in sight so prepare to fight these beings. What is so hard to understand about that, i have no idea.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#12 Mar 3, 2013
dunadd wrote:
why always bring in cooking corned beef when asking kielbasa recipes. always mixing things. i am not mixing internal affairs with cooperation between nations and governments. the title of post is about Russia banning adoptions of children to American couples. That is decision of Russian government but in the same respect when child went to America after which died, that is concern of authorities in America. if situation was reversed it would be the same. the dude in Florida acts like the 911 event would never happened if America had left Russia alone in afghanistan but anyone with any sense knows muslims hate the Great satan and would have attacked America no matter what took place. that's like blaming America being in Afgahanistan for the bombing of the Beslan school. muslims are going to attack US and Russia no matter who does what. muslims kill like kangaroos hop and elephants trumpet through their noses. muzzies have been attacking everybody for 1300+ years and Russia, US nor anyone has to do anything for them to attack again and again continually. all this blaming and finger pointing accomplishes is hard feelings. Russia and US could do nothing against muslims from this day forward and they will still attack. the muslims war against all humanity is endless, no end in sight so prepare to fight these beings. What is so hard to understand about that, i have no idea.
A bit rambling BUT on the mark. Point made.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#13 Mar 3, 2013
all teachers ramble. have two groups, those who want to learn and those who dont. no matter what one does, those who dont wont. Those who will will but with those one has to make it interesting to learn and not just statistics.

SWG

Since: Feb 10

Houston, Texas

#14 Mar 3, 2013
dunadd wrote:
all teachers ramble. have two groups, those who want to learn and those who dont. no matter what one does, those who dont wont. Those who will will but with those one has to make it interesting to learn and not just statistics.
Point made and taken.

Since: Mar 09

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#15 Mar 3, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed. If the Carter and Reagan administrations had not involved the USA in Afghanistan's internal politics perhaps the secular Soviet backed government in Kabul would have survived. By supporting Islamic mujahedeen we laid the groundwork for 9/11. Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri were on our payroll.
You are quite correct. We should stay out of other nations and their internal politics.
Ever see a little film starring Tom Hanks called "Charlie Wilson's War"?

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#16 Mar 4, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
An adoption ban on another Nation is hardly "internal" politics.
Again, why does anyone "demonstrate" FOR a Law that is ALREADY PASSED?
That wasn't a demonstration as much as it was a Putin strut.
Not true! Too many kids adopted by Americans have died. That was the reason for an adoption ban to the USA to begin with. Russia should have banned adoptions to the USA long ago. Those helpless, innocent kids shouldn't be exposed to the biased hate-filled tactics of Russophobes.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#17 Mar 4, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever see a little film starring Tom Hanks called "Charlie Wilson's War"?
Stupid film, proving only that the USA should stay out of the internal affairs of other coutnries.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#18 Mar 4, 2013
dunadd wrote:
the question, why do you care about internal Russian politics, was asked. the world today is so interconnected now what ever happens in any nation affects nations around and sometimes hemispheres and world. case in point, do you have any idea who was affected when the Twin towers in NYC fell. a woman in Malaysia is still mourning her son, a businessman, who died in that act of terrorism. that wasnt just an attack on America, many countries were represented in those buildings by the deaths and mothers, fathers, siblings, aunts, uncles around the world mourned the loss of family members but what happens in Russia only affects Russians. Fraid not, not in this day and time. we are all travelers on this spaceship called earth. WW2 didnt just affect Russia and/or America. it affected the world which is why it was called World War 2. this aint 1513 but 2013.
You conveniently forgot to mention that Russians died in the twin tower attacks as well.

While the modern world is closely connected, it doesn't mean that the USA is allowed to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries. How would you like it if China for example, was pushing communistic ideals, via colored revolutions, as the USA has tried to do to Russia, interfering in Russian internal affairs by spending money to destabilize the Russian governmen? You would be screaming bloody murder.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#19 Mar 4, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed. If the Carter and Reagan administrations had not involved the USA in Afghanistan's internal politics perhaps the secular Soviet backed government in Kabul would have survived. By supporting Islamic mujahedeen we laid the groundwork for 9/11. Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri were on our payroll.
You are quite correct. We should stay out of other nations and their internal politics.
EXACTLY!

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#20 Mar 4, 2013
dunadd wrote:
thanks, snyper, i am glad you recognise the truth and acknowledge it. i see nothing wrong with nationalism as in being proud to be Russian or American or whatever one's nationality but dont carry it to extremes where yours is the only good. There are good and bad in all nationalities and groups. i am not denigrating anyone but i notice a lot of Russians live in the old Bonaparte days, wary of Europeans marching to the gates of Moscow but those days are over. it aint gonna happen. i think Putin and others in the Kremlin realise this. this isn't the days of riding on horseback cutting down with sabres and lances but this is the era of total annihilation in which no one wins because everybody is dead. there were winners in wars of old but in this time of sophisticated weaponry capable of total destruction of everybody and everything on earth, humans need to try a different approach than the forefathers. Russia, US, Europe, China, Japan. India and other nations with nuclear weapons know there are no winners with nuclear war. the problem is with the smaller nations, countries and terrorists who dont realise or care the scope of destruction they are messing with. in the days of Hussars and primitive weaponry there were winners and losers. in this day of total destruction there are no winners. everybody dead.
yES INDEED. there are no winners in nuclear war, but it is rather phoney and Russia has every reason to be suspicious of the USA Using NATO to place missles systems in POland, close to Russia's borders, while telling Russia to get rid of their nuclear weapons.

Sorry, but Russia and any other nations should be suspicious of the USA thinking they should have the only nuclear weapons and that they can put them anywhere. Today we have an obstructionist Republican group in the legislature whose chief purpose seems to be to be obstructionist and destroying the American middle class in order to make sure that the rich not only get government entitlements when their businesses fail, and all the tax loopholes including a low tax rate, while the poor and middle class have to foot the bill.

It would be foolish for Russia or anyone to believe that if the USA meddles in everyone's internal affairs and uses their nuclear weapons as a threat, that some overly Russophobic political group in America would never use their nuclear weapons to force the events they want in other countries.

Good for America FOR DOING THINGS THEIR WAY IF IT WORKS IN THEIR COUTNRY. But maybe something else, or some other form of government or combination of governments works for other nations. Leave them be to work out their own problems.

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