Voters again called to ponder clipboa...

Voters again called to ponder clipboard democracy

There are 3 comments on the The San Diego Union-Tribune story from Feb 15, 2013, titled Voters again called to ponder clipboard democracy. In it, The San Diego Union-Tribune reports that:

Managing land use in California is a fraught, complex business, best conducted by elected representatives in close consultation with experts.

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james marple

San Diego, CA

#1 Feb 17, 2013
The excellent comments prove that Encinitas has a generous supply of sensible citizens, unlike most County communities..

Tribune editors lecture us that "Managing land use .. is .. best conducted by elected representatives in close consultation with experts." Do these journalists have an explanation, then, for the grotesquely inappropriate management of land upon which falls more than ten times as much water as County households use?

It the experts our elected representatives consulted over the past half-century were capable and principled then they advised their clients, our politicians, to comply with the California Water Code's instructions to "guide all or any stormwaters into soils of the District". But if that had been done then there would now be no flooding, no water shortage, and no polluted water flowing into our rivers and ocean front.

Did the "experts" lack rainwater management skills?
Were appointed officials deficient in management skills?
Or did voters fail to select candidates smart and honest enough to hire competent managers who in turn hired competent experts?

The proof of gross mismanagement is in the contradiction of chronic water shortages in a county plagued by chronic flooding. If instructions of the wise Legislators of 1945 had been followed so that all stormwater was guided into the immense aquifers of our county then it is obvious this contradiction would not exist.

With this simplest and cheapest of all land planning rainfall would be supplying all needs and pollutants would be intercepted as rainwater passed through cleansing soils into aquifers that keep streams running full and stable year-round to reservoirs. But instead public servants opted to defy State law by "disposing" of ourprecious rainwater with enormously expensive storm drains and the "flood control" facilities these make necessary.

Who can best plan rainwater management; Politicians and experts or owners of the lard rain falls on?

I look forward to an expert's rebuttal of these statements.
james marple

San Diego, CA

#2 Apr 24, 2013
Encinitas City Council efforts to "educate" the public about Prop A may be well-intentioned but the wordsmiths who advise them will be guided by the wishes of business owners providing generous campaign funding and enthusiastic news service support to 'cooperative' officials.

The sorry state of California's financial situation is a direct result of public servants spending public dollars to 'educate' the public. TV and newspaper ads are an effective weapon of mass confusion when voters are too busy being "laid back" to get involved with managing the most critical elements of their lives: Land-energy-water-transit.

Common sense and accurate, complete information will produce good voting decisions due to collective wisdom. But elected-appointed officials have an inherent conflict of interest that inclines them to distort data or pervert perceptions to achieve the result they prefer from a proposition.

Sensible voters know this but too few take the time to converse freely, without attempts to confuse-intimidate-distract-de bate, so that all in the conversation improve their database. This and similar forums could fully and fairly inform voters about Prop A if not for injections of the drug of mindlessness and the poison of hatreds-angers that warp our thinking.

The desalination plant was pushed through because voters were 'educated' by news services to believe they would pay less than one billion dollars, a third of its actual $3.5 billion cost. Other unneeded water projects will cost even more than this because politicians were badly 'educated'. Upcoming stormwater treatment systems will cost at least $4 billion more but voter 'education' will cause us to accept it with no more than a whimper. So we are being committed to $14 billion plus of new debt (Thats $14,000 per home)
for wholly unnecessary facilities pushed through by politicians-agency managers misguided by the private sector that will gain huge windfall profits.

Note that federal officials who demand cleaner stormwater runoff would rather runoff be prevented, at a tiny percentage of the cost of for cleaning it. And this would eliminate all need for imported and desalinated water. Think this through and post your opinion of flaws in their recommendation.

When professional liars are hired to deceive us we become losers big-time.
If enough of us find facts and share these, voters will become 'educated' enough to see through schemes like these.
james marple

San Diego, CA

#3 Jul 21, 2013
"Clipboard Democracy" is not populat with most public officials and news services because it oftem achieves results that offend their sponsors in the private sector. Public forums are also not popular with our public servants because these often expose their negligence or the games they play with the private sector.

Political debate on public forums is important to survival of our Nation but is of only secondary importance to discussion of our individual environment, the way our land-water-energy-transit and social services are managed..

We cannot significantly affect the actions of our Congress and President on public forums but we can influence the activities of local officials if we do our homework and discuss-debate how our public affairs can be managed.

After all, National politics are of minor importance to citizens who are barely surviving in their personal environment. The enormous burden of personal debt for unneeded services that is being forced upon us by local officials is avoidable if it is discussed extensively on this and other forums.

Debating issues that our grossly corrupted news media deems important is viewed as a fool's game by citizens who inform themselves well enough to perceive the extortion of more than half their income by clever thieves that control the information reaching voters.

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