Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201889 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#189054 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
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I have your number, boy.
I think we all do, he has been called on it by so many people now I have lost count.

I donít believe anything he claims anymore, if he lies about that, and it is so obvious, what else is he being dishonest about?
Mike DiRucci

Hayward, CA

#189055 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Playing the war hero card again? WTF you never served a day. Get over yourself, no one is buying the crap.
I served two tours in Vietnam. 1968-1971. All my medals are real. I have the DD214 to prove it. Vietnam combat duty two tours. And a medal for Korean service. North Korea shot down one of our planes in 1969, we went up to saber rattle at them. Got the t-shirt, hat and medal.

Who cares if you believe it and what does it have to do with marriage equality?
Mike DiRucci

Hayward, CA

#189056 Apr 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I think we all do, he has been called on it by so many people now I have lost count.
I donít believe anything he claims anymore, if he lies about that, and it is so obvious, what else is he being dishonest about?
You and Jizzy are just mad. Jizzy especially. He's been stalking me. Get over it, very unhealthy. Try and relax and have some fun.
Mike DiRucci

Hayward, CA

#189057 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you constantly harassing people on the Gay and Lesbian threads? Why do you use derogatory demeaning language towards the very people that you claim to support???
I have your number, boy.
What is my number tough guy? Lucky seven? You're too funny.

Jizzy! Homophobe detective! Rooting out imagined homophobia on topix! With help from above by Big D!

What's the prize if I was a flaming homophobe? So what? For all you know I'm gay, dummy. Relax fruitcake!

Your problem is that I genuinely support gay rights. And it steams your ass because you think you have the market cornered.

My support for marriage equality is genuine and all encompassing. Yours is because you think it's cool. And you want to be a cool progressive swinging guy.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#189058 Apr 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
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No I told him he was wrong that you cannot educate people that choose to be ignorant. Instead focus on people that want to learn, that want education, I never used the term ďre-educationĒ because that implies forced education against someone wishes, that isnít education. I said education is a 2 way street.
If you are going to post in forums like these you really need to learn English
Yes mighty D! I am so sorry Mighty D!

You jumped right in with your version of X-Box's "re-educating" radical schtick. Claiming only a few people could be "educated" nt all.

One can only guess what the curriculum in your "education" would be,
but I can make an "educated" guess.

is a free country. X-Box doesn't get to re-educate people, you don't get to educate them to proper Big D and X box thought. Thank a veteran.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#189059 Apr 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
We already tried that, you can lead a horse to water....
Thank your bowl of limp spaghetti that flies you cannot be force "educated" at your well by the likes of yourself or anyone else in this country.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189060 Apr 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Yes mighty D! I am so sorry Mighty D!
You jumped right in with your version of X-Box's "re-educating" radical schtick. Claiming only a few people could be "educated" nt all.
One can only guess what the curriculum in your "education" would be,
but I can make an "educated" guess.
is a free country. X-Box doesn't get to re-educate people, you don't get to educate them to proper Big D and X box thought. Thank a veteran.
You arenít going to be able to converse with anyone until you have at least a second grade comprehension level.
I am not going to argue with someone that is lying about what I said when it is just a few posts above.
I never said few people, the vast majority of people want to be educated, it is only the ones that choose ignorance that are a waste of time.
Please point to where I sad ďfewĒ
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#189061 Apr 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
off topic alert - an arrest has been made in the Boston bombing, based on video from a nearby department store security cam and news camera footage.
There were no arrests. Disregard Big D's attempt to blame the bombing on same sex marriage opponents!
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#189062 Apr 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
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You arenít going to be able to converse with anyone until you have at least a second grade comprehension level.
I am not going to argue with someone that is lying about what I said when it is just a few posts above.
I never said few people, the vast majority of people want to be educated, it is only the ones that choose ignorance that are a waste of time.
Please point to where I sad ďfewĒ
Oh for chrissakes relax jackass. You accepted X-Box's assertion that people need to be "re-educated". You said some were not capable of educating.

The point is you two clowns don't get to educate or re-educate people into what you consider proper thought.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189063 Apr 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
There were no arrests. Disregard Big D's attempt to blame the bombing on same sex marriage opponents!
they changed the story...

I have not blamed anyone, please point to the post where I have or admit again that you are a liar
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189066 Apr 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Oh for chrissakes relax jackass. You accepted X-Box's assertion that people need to be "re-educated". You said some were not capable of educating.
The point is you two clowns don't get to educate or re-educate people into what you consider proper thought.
again I didnt use the term re-education, learn to read.

8896
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#189067 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>No one cares what you think Frankie. No one.
But you do Jizzy! You respond to my every thought. And then you try to tell me you don't care. See how silly you are?

If no one cared, no one would respond. It's a simple concept really.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#189068 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Lying is all Frankie has, from his support of gay rights to his fake disability. Its a sham, a house of cards.
Too funny!

Let's entertain your paranoia for a moment and say that is true. So what?

Lets get back on topic. Why are you a homophobe?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#189069 Apr 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
again I didnt use the term re-education, learn to read.
8896
Try and relax.
Kenny stins

San Dimas, CA

#189070 Apr 17, 2013
Then there was Ken Herman of the Glendora, California city council who was branded a racists with his own racists words he sent to George Ogden of the SGexamier.com newspaper.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#189071 Apr 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
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they changed the story...
I have not blamed anyone, please point to the post where I have or admit again that you are a liar
Oh for chrissakes it was a joke. Lame and in very poor taste, but a joke nonetheless. And you know it.

Try and relax.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189072 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Lying is all Frankie has, from his support of gay rights to his fake disability. Its a sham, a house of cards.
Our problem is, that we keep responding to him.

Probably a mistake on our part

I may disagree with others, but at least they are honest about it
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#189073 Apr 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Our problem is, that we keep responding to him.
Probably a mistake on our part
I may disagree with others, but at least they are honest about it
That's not your only problem. Your new sidekick Jizzy's another one. He's a real peach! Good luck. Be honest!(yeah right).
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189075 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>True, how true.
In truth I understand the deeply religious stance opposed to same sex marriage, I agree that churches that are opposed to same sex marriages should not ever be forced to preform them.

They are free to have their rules for their churches, but those rules do not apply to people not of their church.

My only objection to them is their trying to enforce their rules on people that arenít of their particular belief. That is religious tynary and I wonít stand for that, not in this country.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189077 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think that any legal standing could be made to force a church to preform same sex marriages. There are a number of them that do and are willing to.
As for laws, they are not based upon religious principles. This nation will not stand for it. You cant force religious doctrine upon others. When you have a nation, like the USA, there are far to many religions to be considered. What may appeal to Christians may or may not to Hindus, Buddhists or Muslims. None of them appeal to atheists. I don't see SCOTUS, enforcing Prop 8 based upon religious morality.
Or course, I know many churches that want to preform them and others that will not. I donít have a problem with that.

They can decide never to marry someone with blue eyes and I wonít complain, it is their little club, they can make all the rules they want to and apply them to their little flock. As long as people are only voluntarily in that flock... no problem.

I donít see that either, with DOMA I expect article 3 to be tossed, It is possible they will overturn all of DOMA, but that will have national consequences like states forced to recognize marriages performed in other states. I think that is the right decision, but I donít expect the supreme court to do that... not yet, that will happen, but not until a large majority of states recognize same sex marriage. That is coming but will take a while.

With Prop 8 I am not sure what to expect

1 Support the appellate court = prop 8 overturned
2 Decide the opponents have no standing = prop 8 overturned
3 Donít rule and toss it back to the state = prop 8 over turned
4 Support the opposition and Prop 8 stands until the next election cycle when it will be back on the ballot and overturned.

But the bottom line is, prop 8 is doomed, either this year... or in the very near future.

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