Sea lion pups beaching at 'unprecedented' rates

Mar 22, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The San Diego Union-Tribune

Sea World senior animal care specialist Mark Bressler loads a rescued sea lion pup into the Sea World truck Thursday in Carlsbad.

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~~~ Associated Press 12:31 P.M.MARCH 13, 2010 SAN DIEGO
The California Coastal Commission agreed to alter the terms of San Diego's sewage treatment permit, allowing the city to continue to pump 50 billion gallons of partly treated sewage deep into the Pacific Ocean each year...

Here's a fun "Connect the Dots" game for sea lion lovers:
- 1. Our politicians keep on defying federal orders to clean and re-use the water that carries away our sewage.
- 2. The ocean was polluted by this, killing off critical tiny critters at the bottom of the food chain so our rich fishing industry was destroyed.
- 4. We've begun protecting seal beaches so that these cute animals enjoy a population explosion that has guaranteed starvation now that the fish population has been greatly diminished.
- 5. By dumping 50 billion gallons of water yearly we've had to import that much more, costing $110 million yearly.
- 6. Increasing the amount imported is costing us another $3.6 billion for dams and tunnels plus our share of $15 billion to "fix" damage to the Sacramento Delta.
- 7. We have a new debt of $3.5 billion for the Carlsbad desalination plant to clean 18 billion gallons of seawater yearly while we dump 50 billion gallons
- 8. All these costs are so high that our politicians claim we have to keep dumping sewage in the ocean to save money.

--- In just 8 steps we come back 'round to the ocean dumping of 50 million gallons that could have been treated and sent to irrigation at a tiny percentage of the $12 billion that's been extorted from us by our public servants.--- We voters are collectively not so very smart.
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james marple wrote:
~~~ Associated Press 12:31 P.M.MARCH 13, 2010 SAN DIEGO
The California Coastal Commission agreed to alter the terms of San Diego's sewage treatment permit, allowing the city to continue to pump 50 billion gallons of partly treated sewage deep into the Pacific Ocean each year...
Here's a fun "Connect the Dots" game for sea lion lovers:
- 1. Our politicians keep on defying federal orders to clean and re-use the water that carries away our sewage.
- 2. The ocean was polluted by this, killing off critical tiny critters at the bottom of the food chain so our rich fishing industry was destroyed.
- 4. We've begun protecting seal beaches so that these cute animals enjoy a population explosion that has guaranteed starvation now that the fish population has been greatly diminished.
- 5. By dumping 50 billion gallons of water yearly we've had to import that much more, costing $110 million yearly.
- 6. Increasing the amount imported is costing us another $3.6 billion for dams and tunnels plus our share of $15 billion to "fix" damage to the Sacramento Delta.
- 7. We have a new debt of $3.5 billion for the Carlsbad desalination plant to clean 18 billion gallons of seawater yearly while we dump 50 billion gallons
- 8. All these costs are so high that our politicians claim we have to keep dumping sewage in the ocean to save money.
--- In just 8 steps we come back 'round to the ocean dumping of 50 million gallons that could have been treated and sent to irrigation at a tiny percentage of the $12 billion that's been extorted from us by our public servants.--- We voters are collectively not so very smart.
Comes down to the mass incursion of 20 million illegal aliens, many of them nesting in California. An unprecedented influx. This means we need much more water, and many more places for them to take a dump.
Stop complaining about the outcome, and start complaining about the cause. Otherwise your reasoning remains childish, and pointless. We can't create the infrastructure to handle the influx. That is the problem.
james marple

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Water use has declined dramatically over the past five years, yet more than $10 billion is being extorted from us to import more and desalinate seawater. This is contrary to reason

Homes are being built at the rate of our small annual population increase but unneeded water infrastructure is being built solely to enrich the criminal element of our private sector.

California's Governor and San Diego's Mayor are playing global warming 'green' games that obstruct construction of appropriate infrastructure, in particular good roads and total stormwater storage that would provide plentiful pure water and cheap hydropower.

It does appear that America is experiencing a rerun of the Kosovo debacle where Albanians were invited into one of Serbia's richest states and took it over (with Democrat assistance) to establish their own government. Hopefully a majority of American's will see through the false promises of professional liars posing as liberal extremists to fool voters into ignoring what their common sense dictates so that fools and crooks are elected.
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james marple wrote:
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Water use has declined dramatically over the past five years, yet more than $10 billion is being extorted from us to import more and desalinate seawater. This is contrary to reason
Homes are being built at the rate of our small annual population increase but unneeded water infrastructure is being built solely to enrich the criminal element of our private sector.
Wrong. There's only a relatively small increase because the producers in California are moving en masse to other states, and being replaced by hispanic immigrants who, thanks to welfare, have more children than if they remained in their home countries, and consume more resources than if they'd stayed put. That's the dirty little secret conservationists sweep under the rug. So even with conservation measures in place, the population will continue to gain momentum in this state, and desalinization plants will be required, further destroying the ecology of our state beaches.
We are overpopulating the state with fertile immigrants, legal and illegal. No other country in the history of the world has operated such an open door immigration plan. Obama's strategy is to leave the immigration problem to fester, assuming opponents will acquiesce from simple battle fatigue, and more young voters who don't know any better.
Until you attack that problem, you're just as bad as the people you try to criticize. So, until you do, shut up.
james marple

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Your bias is hanging out, PR

True indeed that immigrants have burdened America's economic structure but also true is that they were invited in by politicians whose campaigns were sponsored by agribusinesses, service industries, manufacturers and wealthy citizens seeking cheap labor unlikely to rob them or take them to court. They got the short term benefits, we must now deal with the consequences.

For the overly permissive policies we can only blame voters who preferred professional politicians and power-seeking social manipulators over sensible candidates. Wise, incorruptible politicians would have set up a visiting labor system like that of Canada and closed the border several decades ago, while helping Mexican politicians improve their nation's quality of life. Severe poverty has generated tremendous pressure to immigrate illegally.

San Diego's immediate problem is $14 billion in new debt for unneeded water management projects - like those that impoverished your L A neighborhoods - that enrich influential elements of the business sector.(Common crooks posing as businessmen.) Our Mayors, like our Governor, are too busy with "green" issues and pleasing the union leaders who pushed them into power to deal effectively with critical economic issues.(Land-water-energy management)

Our County Supervisors and City Council members, also like yours, are so locked into dependence upon the advice of agency managers they appoint that they cannot recognize the absurdity of plans these professional liars lay before them. By not finding impartial experts to identify all planning options these politicians became mere rubber stampers of plans the influential crooks instruct agency managers to present.

Perhaps you'd best join the "flee, don't fight" crowd abandoning California. We San Diegans will focus on making the best of what we have by showing voters how they will benefit from choosing better politicians.
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You people in californication deserve what you have, you voted for it. What a cesspool. Enjoy. Thats all !!
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Cali haters are always gonna hate. Remember when they blamed the electrical black outs on liberals? PFFFFFFFFFffff.
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Get a clue wrote:
You people in californication deserve what you have, you voted for it. What a cesspool. Enjoy. Thats all !!
Hey! You're from Florida? You're where many of our section 8 negroes go when they get tired of being jumped by our mexicans!

Enjoy!
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Anyone want to talk about the pups?
No, don't really care about the little pieces of crap. Their dirty, take over docks, beaches, swimsteps of boats, bait barges. They don't need humans help. If your heart bleeds for them than go join the crazy seal lady at childrens pool. Maybe spend your time worring about all the poor kids in our country instead.
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RobWhitey wrote:
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No, don't really care about the little pieces of crap. Their dirty, take over docks, beaches, swimsteps of boats, bait barges. They don't need humans help. If your heart bleeds for them than go join the crazy seal lady at childrens pool. Maybe spend your time worring about all the poor kids in our country instead.
Seals are just another of our relevant canaries in the coal mine for coastal waters. It's really not all about you and your father's legacy of beating your head in with a stick when you were young, or your battle against dementia.
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We thought we saw some whales beaching themselves in Santa Monica last weekend, but thankfully it just turned out to be some tourists from backwoods red states sunbathing.
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The starving seals are indeed a "canary in the mine" revealing damage our public servants have done to perpetuate their jobs.
This is not an "environmentalist" view, it is recognition of the fact that our ocean has been polluted by sewage and trash because a majority of the people we elected cared more about prestige, power and pensions than wise management of our land and water.

Deliberate contamination of our rivers and ocean by the agency managers our politicians appointed will not be corrected until a majority of sensible, conscientious politicians are elected. We've individually been "too busy" to participate in managing our public affairs, so the criminal element of our business sector gained control of our information sources and used these to fool us into electing majorities of fools and crooks.

We need no special knowledge to perceive the stupidity of dumping 50 billion gallons of sewage effluent into our ocean yearly instead of cleaning it for delivery to irrigation/industrial uses. And grade school arithmetic will enable us to figure out that using this water would avoid the $175 million yearly cost of imported and desalinated water. No college course in economics is needed to detect extortion of our wealth through taxes and utility bills to support bloated city and county agencies that expand their powers and budgets by misleading us and our politicians.

The damage done by pharmaceuticals in human waste and complex synthetic chemical compounds in stormwater runoff was illustrated by scientists in government and universities decades ago. But journalists did not look past the trash information presented by agency managers dancing to tunes played by land-water-energy profiteers in back rooms where decisions were made.

As a result our ocean became a cesspool so that fishing and beach-loving tourists went elsewhere. Birds are smart enough to not defecate in their own nests, but the people we elected were not.

Our politicians could fix most of this problem within a year at less than one-tenth the cost of the Carlsbad desalination plant, restoring our rich fishing grounds, regaining clean beaches and reversing the upward trend of taxes and utility bills. But informing current politicians and concerned citizens well enough to generate fast-track planning would take hard work by a few dozen people who care enough to do their very best to protect the health, safety, welfare and quality of life of family and friends.
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Jessica wrote:
We thought we saw some whales beaching themselves in Santa Monica last weekend, but thankfully it just turned out to be some tourists from backwoods red states sunbathing.
I thought a large blue whale was trying to beach itself next to the belmont pier. I first noticed it was hyperventilating out of it's blowhole. Turns out it was just you floating on your back, trying to get your vagina into your bikini bottom.
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Sensible people do not inject politics into discussions of local affairs.

Are sea lions dying from starvation because sewage effluent has killed off their food chain? Thoughtful citizens will be able to perceive truths about this issue and provide useful comment.

People who post trivial, inflammatory or irrelevant comments may be merely foolish or they may be agents of the private sector that rewards them for keeping concerned citizens distracted by mindless debate so that fools and crooks will be elected by poorly informed voters.

This forum could be a useful tool for concerned citizens to trade information, ideas, specific knowledge and expertise about how their land, water, energy and transportation are managed. But if a few individuals inject viruses into it and members do not identify and reject these trash comments then the discussions will not be useful.

Is it unreasonable to expect that some who speak garbage on these forums intend to prevent sensible discussion of critical matters?
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james marple wrote:
Sensible people do not inject politics into discussions of local affairs.
Are sea lions dying from starvation because sewage effluent has killed off their food chain? Thoughtful citizens will be able to perceive truths about this issue and provide useful comment.
People who post trivial, inflammatory or irrelevant comments may be merely foolish or they may be agents of the private sector that rewards them for keeping concerned citizens distracted by mindless debate so that fools and crooks will be elected by poorly informed voters.
This forum could be a useful tool for concerned citizens to trade information, ideas, specific knowledge and expertise about how their land, water, energy and transportation are managed. But if a few individuals inject viruses into it and members do not identify and reject these trash comments then the discussions will not be useful.
Is it unreasonable to expect that some who speak garbage on these forums intend to prevent sensible discussion of critical matters?
Montrose Chemical Corp., which was based near Torrance, released 110 tons of DDT and 10 tons of toxic PCBs into the sewers from 1947 through 1971. The chemicals then flowed into the Pacific.

The EPA in 1996 declared about 17 square miles of ocean off the Palos Verdes peninsula a Superfund site, ranking it among the most hazardous places in the country. Now government scientists say they can't find the area where the nasty stuff accumulated.

I bet fish can.

So there's some nasty facts for you, related to sick seal pups in general, and dying coastal regions in particular.

Does that make you happy?
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James is a broken record. Every thread he responds to is his water topic.

Feel so strongly about your water topic than run for councel or the water board of directors and make a difference. Posting on this form is just ranting behind your keyboard and no better than everyone else.

Put up or shutup.

Just saying.
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RobWhitey wrote:
James is a broken record. Every thread he responds to is his water topic.
Feel so strongly about your water topic than run for councel or the water board of directors and make a difference. Posting on this form is just ranting behind your keyboard and no better than everyone else.
Put up or shutup.
Just saying.
yeh. he's just like Ronald without the crackhead-like nicotine addiction.
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"Rob" and "Doctor" find time to post personal attacks but not to provide information or ideas that could be useful to citizens looking for information about planning options open to our politicians.
Wonder why these two find it offensive to have facts and figures about land-water-energy management posted?

Could it be they are deficient in ability to comprehend the concept of diverting rainwater to storage instead of dumping it to the ocean? Or are they just unable to recognize that a year's rainwater trapped behind the Lake Henshaw dam could provide cheap,'clean' electricity to tems of thousands of San Diego County's homes as it fell 1/2 mile to supply more water than all households in the County use.

Perhaps these posters simply don't care enough about the health, safety, welfare and quality of life of their family, friends and community to bother finding out what could be done, so that they could inform membeers of this forun about the planning options our elected officials are ignoring.
Or maybe they expect to intimidate members of this forum and so prevent thoughtful responses to my posts.

I invite them to visit the UT forum where sensible people post useful replies because moderators cut off posters who aim to trash useful discussions.

Lets see if either of them are competent enough to figure out how much electricity the Lake Henshaw watershed could generate.
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A personal attact? Grow some skin. Are you an adult?

What I'm saying is you post thread after thread after thread saying the same thing. You also jump on others topic and post the same. Your like a broken record. Talking to hear your own head rattle.
Again, get off your ass and go make a change if you feel so strongly. You can get elected as well as anyone else if you put your time into it. But, I guess it's easier to take the lazy road and just post on the internet between surfing porn.

That's all I'm going to say to you. I have a life to live.
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Rob

Your focus upon the messenger instead of the message suggests that your life does not include concern for the health, safety, welfare and quality of life for family, friends and neighbors.

Water supply is obviously a primary issue in their region, one that merits consideration by thoughtful people willing to contribute time and effort toward advising politicians. Perhaps you doubt your ability to comment usefully on the items I've posted. Perhaps you doubt that anyone cares what you have to add.

Whichever the case, you do no good by inventing criticisms instead of posting facts, figures or opinions that add to our knowledge and provide insights.

Do you know how much rain falls on your lot and what happens to this precious asset, and are you fully informed about the cost of your water supply? Of so we'd like to add your figures to our database.

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