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Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#22 May 7, 2013
Continued:

If a government official processing the amnesty application turns over employment records to prosecutors that official will be subject to a fine of up to $10,000.
The government may not use employment records submitted by an alien seeking RPI status in any civil or criminal prosecution or investigation of that employer for illegally hiring the alien regardless of the outcome of the application. In fact, employers that provide illegal aliens with employment records for an RPI application shall not be subject to civil and criminal liability. Additionally, anyone who knowingly provides these records to be used, published or examined,(except upon written request by law enforcement) will be fined up to $10,000.(Sec. 2105, p.130)
33 million by the year 2024.
While Gang of Eight members refuse to estimate the number, the office of Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) estimates this legislation would add 33 million new workers to the United States over the next decade. This is nearly the same size as the current population of California.
According to a report from Senator Sessions on May 3, 2013:
A conservative analysis of the legislation, with low-range estimates for the new and expanded visa programs, reveals that the proposal would dramatically increase the future flow of low-skill workers and chain migration and provide legal status and work authorization to 30 million immigrants over the next 10 years—who will then be able to bring in family members, initiating a wave of non-merit-based chain migration that will greatly increase low-skilled immigration.
...Over the first decade, the total number granted will be well over 32 million (not taking into account chain migration from increased legal flow). Adding in all the various categories of nonimmigrant work visas, and the number climbs to more than 57 million. Further, because approximately 7 million illegal immigrants are on a 13-year track to citizenship, there will be a second wave of chain migration initiated just outside the 10-year window (substantially increasing the net low-skill immigration).
The Senate Gang of Eight amnesty bill (S.744) authorizes illegal aliens to:
(1) request administrative review if DHS denies their amnesty application;
(2) Seek judicial review of any denial in federal court;
(3) File lawsuits against the government – including class action lawsuits – challenging any provision of the law or regulations issued pursuant thereto as unconstitutional, in order to force the government to give them amnesty.(Sec. 2104, INA 245E(c), p. 120-129)
The authorization of class action lawsuits is only one of many provisions in the bill that gives illegal aliens the right to legally challenge any denial of amnesty, called "Registered Provisional Immigrant" (RPI) status or green cards offered under the bill.
There is no requirement to learn English.
A close analysis of S.744, the Gang of Eight's amnesty bill shows that despite promises by Senators in the Gang of Eight, illegal aliens will in fact not be required to learn English at any time during the amnesty process.
First, illegal aliens are not required to learn English when they apply for amnesty, called "Registered Provisional Immigrant" (RPI) status. The eligibility requirements are relatively straightforward. To be eligible for RPI status, an alien must demonstrate by a preponderance of the evidence that the alien:
- Is physically present in the U.S. on the date of application;
- Has been physically present in the U.S. on or before 12/31/11, except for "brief, casual, and innocent" absences; and
- Has maintained continuous physical presence (except absences up to 180 days) in the U.S. from Dec. 31, 2011 until receiving RPI status.(Sec. 2101, INA245B(b), p.60-68)
Nowhere in S.744 is there a requirement that illegal aliens learn English in order to get amnesty.

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#23 May 7, 2013
for some reason did not post in proper order. This goes above the last post.
Highlights of the S. 744, the Gang of Eight Bill
Gang of Eight members say their bill is tough on enforcement. However the requirement that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) apprehend 90% of border crossers along the U.S.-Mexico border only applies to “high risk” sectors where apprehensions are over 30,000 per year. There are several reasons why this requirement is deficient.
First, only 3 of the 9 sectors along the U.S.-Mexico border meet this definition, leaving the rest of the U.S.-Mexico border in status quo. Second, requiring DHS to achieve a 90% apprehension rate in those sectors assumes that we know the actual number of border crossers who evade the Border Patrol undetected, and invites political manipulation of the numbers.
Finally, if DHS engages in targeted enforcement activities in one sector, the coyotes and drug cartels will quickly move their activities into another sector where there is less enforcement activity—undermining what should be the real goal: to secure the border.
After conducting required background checks, DHS may grant “registered provisional immigrant status” if the alien pays an unspecified fee and a $1,000 penalty, payable in installments (DREAMERS excluded from fine). Aliens must be physically present in the U.S. on the date of the application and demonstrate that they were present in the U.S. on or before December 31, 2011.
Registered Provisional Immigrant (RPI) status is effective on the application date, is good for six years and can be renewed indefinitely as long as the alien provides proof of employment, demonstrates income does not fall below federal poverty level, pays any taxes “assessed” by the IRS and pays the fine and application feeds.
The application process can begin on the date that the DHS publishes final regulations, lasts for a year, and can be extended an additional 18 months at the DHS Secretary’s discretion.
The DREAM Act grants 5-year path to citizenship to illegal aliens who entered the U.S. before the age of 16 and regardless of their current age (basically a DREAM Act with no age limit). While the DREAM Act ostensibly also requires that DREAM Act applicants also meet certain education or military service requirements, DHS may waive these.
Under S.744, DHS will begin granting amnesty to illegal aliens who came to the U.S. prior to January 1, 2012 as soon as the Secretary of Homeland Security issues PLANS to secure the border, and to add fencing at the Secretary’s discretion. S.744 requires Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano to submit these plans within six months.
The legislation does not require the plan to actually be implemented before the amnesty program may start.
S.744 specifically states that DHS may waive gang membership in order to enable an alien to receive Registered Provisional Immigrant (RPI) status, so long as the alien “renounces” all associations with the gang.(p. 604) The bill also authorizes DHS to waive other unlawful activity to enable aliens to get RPI status, including: multiple misdemeanors, passport trafficking, identity theft, and violation of student visas.(p. 64)
S.744 also includes a shorter list of illegal activities that DHS cannot waive for purposes of determining eligibility for RPI status, including money laundering, drug trafficking, human trafficking, terrorism, sex traffickers, child kidnappers, former citizens who renounced citizenship to avoid taxes and “practicing polygamists.”
Allows companies with more than 51 employees to exceed hiring more than 15% of their workforce from other countries under the H-1B visa program.

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#24 May 7, 2013
Facebook and other technology companies lobbied for an exemption that allows them to maintain a staff of more than 15% H-1B nonimmigrants. This exemption allows H-1B holders to be excluded from the total count if they are currently in the process of obtaining a green card. They have now created a PAC and are issuing pro-Gang of Eight ads to ensure the bill is passed.
If a government official processing the amnesty application turns over employment records to prosecutors that official will be subject to a fine of up to $10,000.
The government may not use employment records submitted by an alien seeking RPI status in any civil or criminal prosecution or investigation of that employer for illegally hiring the alien regardless of the outcome of the application. In fact, employers that provide illegal aliens with employment records for an RPI application shall not be subject to civil and criminal liability. Additionally, anyone who knowingly provides these records to be used, published or examined,(except upon written request by law enforcement) will be fined up to $10,000.(Sec. 2105, p.130)

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#25 May 7, 2013
Some of the information may have posted more than once, Topix posts real fast sometimes and other times takes a few minutes. The information is still pretty understandable.
Murderous Moozlum

Englewood, OH

#26 May 7, 2013
"I had a dream. To make the infidels scream! It filled my underwear with cream! It is Allah's will that masses of American dumbasses I kill. Liberals are such fools, thinking that I will not kill them too, liberals like you?"
The Duke of Hazard

Englewood, OH

#28 May 7, 2013
Hire some guards and investigators who are rich and or retired, and who are thus not worried about being demoted or fired, ones who will profile without smiling or who will wilt with liberal guilt. Hire some hardasses who will keep out the mean male Moslem masses.
Truth

Woodbridge, VA

#29 May 8, 2013
To Deray. Yep, that's just the way they operate.
Truth

Woodbridge, VA

#30 May 8, 2013
deray wrote:
Facebook and other technology companies lobbied for an exemption that allows them to maintain a staff of more than 15% H-1B nonimmigrants. This exemption allows H-1B holders to be excluded from the total count if they are currently in the process of obtaining a green card. They have now created a PAC and are issuing pro-Gang of Eight ads to ensure the bill is passed.
If a government official processing the amnesty application turns over employment records to prosecutors that official will be subject to a fine of up to $10,000.
The government may not use employment records submitted by an alien seeking RPI status in any civil or criminal prosecution or investigation of that employer for illegally hiring the alien regardless of the outcome of the application. In fact, employers that provide illegal aliens with employment records for an RPI application shall not be subject to civil and criminal liability. Additionally, anyone who knowingly provides these records to be used, published or examined,(except upon written request by law enforcement) will be fined up to $10,000.(Sec. 2105, p.130)
Like I was saying, one set of rules for them, one for us. And it's breeding a LOT of anger.
Truth

Woodbridge, VA

#31 May 8, 2013
The Duke of Hazard wrote:
Hire some guards and investigators who are rich and or retired, and who are thus not worried about being demoted or fired, ones who will profile without smiling or who will wilt with liberal guilt. Hire some hardasses who will keep out the mean male Moslem masses.
Guess that might be one way to do it. What might be BETTER is if the state department and the head did their their jobs!

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#32 May 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I was saying, one set of rules for them, one for us. And it's breeding a LOT of anger.
Yes much anger, even at that the common American Citizen has no clue how stacked against them the rules are. Many don't realize they are even losing their jobs because of the incentives employers get for illegals from the government now. Employers will receive even more in the future ($3000 a year for the next five years at least $15000 per each illegal) to hire illegal immigrants instead of the American Citizen or legal immigrant. When the American people really realize what is going on in their own country, backyard, breeding allot of anger will be a understatement.
Dumbass Dimuhcrat

West Milton, OH

#33 May 8, 2013
We can all have government jobs! We will never run out of people to rob!

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#34 May 9, 2013
Law Officers Write Congress To Warn Gang Of 8 Legislation Will Endanger Public
Safety. Highlights of their letter.

Section 2101 of S. 744 also explicitly opens this legal status to those with long criminal records, gang affiliations, felony arrests, and those
with multiple misdemeanor criminal convictions. Furthermore, S. 744 allows criminal aliens to
continue to commit and be convicted of criminal offenses after receiving provisional legal status,
as long as the individual’s convictions remain below the eligibility threshold.
&#61623; For instance, the Secretary of DHS must waive misdemeanor criminal convictions for
purposes of determining an illegal immigrant’s eligibility for RPI status. In many states,
misdemeanor crimes include serious offenses such as assault, assault of a law enforcement
officer, vehicular homicide, possession of drug manufacturing equipment, unlawful placing
or discharging of an explosive device, DUI, and sex offenses.

&#61623; Section 3701 of S. 744 states that illegal immigrants who are members of street gangs –
most of which are heavily involved in criminal activity and violent crimes in the
communities and areas we police – simply have to claim that they renounce their gang
affiliation in order to obtain a waiver that would make them admissible to the U.S., and
potentially eligible for legalization and eventual citizenship. We anticipate, as should
Congress, that many gang members will falsely claim to renounce their association with
criminal street gangs to obtain legal status and continue engaging in unlawful conduct in the
United States.

&#61623; Section 2101 of S. 744 states that illegal immigrants who have committed document fraud,
made false statements to authorities, and have absconded from court-ordered removal
hearings are all eligible to apply for legal status.
&#61623; Section 2101 of S. 744 directs DHS to ignore convictions under state laws that mirror
federal laws on crimes such as human smuggling, harboring, trafficking, and gang crimes
when approving applications for legalization.
&#61623; This same section also gives the Secretary of Homeland Security virtually unlimited
discretion to waive any manner of crimes that would otherwise make an individual ineligible
for legal status–– for such expansive reasons as family unity, humanitarian purposes or what
the Secretary believes is in the public interest. At least two of these standards appear
undefined by S. 744 or current law, providing political appointees with broad authority to
establish their own definitions of these terms and pardon criminal acts under almost any
circumstance.

The bill provides that individuals who have overstayed visas are eligible for RPI and
citizenship. As we have learned from the 9/11 Commission, more vigorous policing of visa
violators is an essential component of national security. S. 744 provides legal status to an
estimated 4.5 million visa overstays, including recent arrivals and document forgers. S. 744
lacks effective security measures for screening existing and future visa violators.
&#61623; The bill states that individuals who have previously been deported or otherwise removed
from the country are ineligible to apply for legal status. However, the Secretary is given the
“sole and unreviewable discretion” to waive that ineligibility for large classes of qualifying
aliens.

Section 2101 of S. 744 prohibits detention and removal of any person claiming eligibility for
legalization under S. 744 without requirement to provide proof of eligibility or application.

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#35 May 9, 2013
While business groups, activists, and other special interests were closely involved in the drafting
of S. 744, law enforcement personnel were excluded from those meetings. Immigration officers
and state and local law enforcement working directly within the nation’s broken immigration
system were prohibited from providing input. As a result, the legislation before us may have
many satisfactory components for powerful lobbying groups and other special interests, but on
the subjects of public safety, border security, and interior enforcement, this legislation fails. It is
a dramatic step in the wrong direction.

Since: Dec 09

Falls of Rough, Kentucky

#36 May 9, 2013
The complete letter from law enforcement is at this website in pdf.
http://www.fairus.org/DocServer/amnesty_2013_...

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