Teen Killed In East Bay Officer-Involved Shooting

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The teenage suspect was shot by Contra Costa County sheriff's deputies early Tuesday morning after a routine traffic stop turned into a chase followed by a physical struggle that led to a deputy using deadly ... Full Story
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Bay Point Rider

Sunnyvale, CA

#1 Aug 15, 2006
Shoot the rest of these punks will you please!
JUSTICE FOR STEFFAN

Walnut Creek, CA

#2 Aug 15, 2006
This kid was not a punk...never in trouble...it could have been Bay Point Rider....POLICE GUILTY OF USING DEADLY FORCE...DEPUTY OUT OF LINE/IN THE WRONG PROFESSION...
Mrs Mendes

Windsor, CA

#3 Aug 16, 2006
JUSTICE FOR STEFFAN wrote:
This kid was not a punk...never in trouble...it could have been Bay Point Rider....POLICE GUILTY OF USING DEADLY FORCE...DEPUTY OUT OF LINE/IN THE WRONG PROFESSION...
In the wrong profession???? Why? Because there was a struggle between the officer and the assailant, and the officer had to use deadly force? Police face these issues everyday. How do you know that the assailant wasn't trying to grab at the officers gun during the struggle, as they usually will. That right there is reason enough to shoot the person. When you are in a struggle for life or death, you do what you have to go home to your family. The only other option for this story today in the paper would read, "Another Pittsburg officer killed in the line of duty." I'm tired of reading those headlines. It's time to take our streets back and stop having to be afraid everytime we walk down the street. And, if you think this shooting hasn't affected this officer greatly, you are no human being. Any one who has ever shot anyone would carry that with them for their life. It's a burden whether they were justified or not.(NOTE: To bad these forums aren't meant for people who are truly interested in meaningful discussion and not just trying to spread their message of hate.)
Mrs Mendes

Windsor, CA

#4 Aug 16, 2006
JUSTICE FOR STEFFAN wrote:
This kid was not a punk...never in trouble...it could have been Bay Point Rider....POLICE GUILTY OF USING DEADLY FORCE...DEPUTY OUT OF LINE/IN THE WRONG PROFESSION...
And another thing....if this kid was "never in trouble" then he sure picked a hell of a way to start getting into trouble!
cop supporter

Sacramento, CA

#5 Aug 16, 2006
Cop in the wrong???...Maybe he would be alive if he didn't run when the cops asked him to just get out of the car. Is anyone concerned about what the kid did wrong? Maybe he was doing something he should have not been doing. The two facts I gather are he was out at 2am, in a car not registered to him and he ran when the cops asked him to get out of the car, I am willing to bet he stole the car and he tried to show off in front of his boys, ran and got into a fight with the cop. Maybe he should have not just brought his fists to a gun fight.
MP in BR

Denham Springs, LA

#6 Aug 16, 2006
Bay Point Rider wrote:
Shoot the rest of these punks will you please!
May you one day experience the pain this kids family and friends are going through.
MP in BR

Denham Springs, LA

#7 Aug 16, 2006
cop supporter wrote:
Cop in the wrong???...Maybe he would be alive if he didn't run when the cops asked him to just get out of the car. Is anyone concerned about what the kid did wrong? Maybe he was doing something he should have not been doing. The two facts I gather are he was out at 2am, in a car not registered to him and he ran when the cops asked him to get out of the car, I am willing to bet he stole the car and he tried to show off in front of his boys, ran and got into a fight with the cop. Maybe he should have not just brought his fists to a gun fight.
California is quite the state to justify killing because you are out at 2am, run from the police, and resisted arrest. I'm not condoning it, but if everyone that did those things were shot, we would be burying hundreds of people every day. What a loser you are to make all the assumptions you stated above. May you and/or your family go through a tragedy such as this one to understand the pain rather than judge.
GUEST

Pittsburg, CA

#8 Aug 16, 2006
IT'S A SHAME THAT WE WILL NEVER KNOW HOW GREAT OR HOW BAD OF A CITIZEN THIS CHILD WAS TOO BE. THEY BOTH MAY HAVE BEEN SCARED,BUT ONE HAD A GUN. THIS IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF HAVING A GUN. MY HEART GOES OUT TO THIS CHILDS FAMILY FOR THEIR LOSS IS GREAT,AND I HOPE & PRAY THAT THE OFFICER AND HIS FAMILY ARE FEELING SOME PAIN ALSO. BUT KNOW MATTER WHAT THERE WILL BE SOME FORM OF CONVICTION IN THE HEART & MIND. SO WE MUST PRAY FOR BOTH FAMILY'S.
Lowell

Phoenix, AZ

#9 Aug 16, 2006
GUEST wrote:
IT'S A SHAME THAT WE WILL NEVER KNOW HOW GREAT OR HOW BAD OF A CITIZEN THIS CHILD WAS TOO BE. THEY BOTH MAY HAVE BEEN SCARED,BUT ONE HAD A GUN. THIS IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF HAVING A GUN. MY HEART GOES OUT TO THIS CHILDS FAMILY FOR THEIR LOSS IS GREAT,AND I HOPE & PRAY THAT THE OFFICER AND HIS FAMILY ARE FEELING SOME PAIN ALSO. BUT KNOW MATTER WHAT THERE WILL BE SOME FORM OF CONVICTION IN THE HEART & MIND. SO WE MUST PRAY FOR BOTH FAMILY'S.
How bad he would have been??? WTF??? Wait till they kill someone then what?
Just like that 20 something in California getting killed by a Tazer running from the police. I say GOOD RIDDANCE to them.
WTF this the new skill taught by parents to low income people?? How to run from cops? I couldn't care less about this scum.
Now I'm sure the lawsuits already filed, free money for the welfare crowd, have a relative get killed by police. Don't matter what they are doing to get thier own ass killed, just file a lawsuit anyway. No need to look at thier own actions, personal responsablity is a thing of the past.
What about the officer he was fighting, no thought if he got hurt. What did this punk care. He got what he deservered.
Lowell

Phoenix, AZ

#10 Aug 16, 2006
MP in BR wrote:
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May you one day experience the pain this kids family and friends are going through.
I think not. My childern are taught to accept personal responsability for thier actions, not run when you get caught. My kids will respect the law and those who uphold it. My kids will know there are concequenses for thier actions.
I currenty have 6 kids. 3 of my own and 3 step kids.
MP in BR

Denham Springs, LA

#11 Aug 16, 2006
Lowell wrote:
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I think not. My childern are taught to accept personal responsability for thier actions, not run when you get caught. My kids will respect the law and those who uphold it. My kids will know there are concequenses for thier actions.
I currenty have 6 kids. 3 of my own and 3 step kids.
And something tells me you will have your day. Don't be so quick to criticize. I have two sons myself, both serving in the Navy, one a Navy Seal, but I would not judge another families' problems and this boy Steffan happened to be best friends with one of my sons...best friends since elementary. I pray for his family. I also pray that you experience some type of tragedy so you can wake up and realize you, your children, and one day your grandchildren aren't perfect.
MP in BR

Denham Springs, LA

#12 Aug 16, 2006
Lowell wrote:
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How bad he would have been??? WTF??? Wait till they kill someone then what?
Just like that 20 something in California getting killed by a Tazer running from the police. I say GOOD RIDDANCE to them.
WTF this the new skill taught by parents to low income people?? How to run from cops? I couldn't care less about this scum.
Now I'm sure the lawsuits already filed, free money for the welfare crowd, have a relative get killed by police. Don't matter what they are doing to get thier own ass killed, just file a lawsuit anyway. No need to look at thier own actions, personal responsablity is a thing of the past.
What about the officer he was fighting, no thought if he got hurt. What did this punk care. He got what he deservered.
Talk about scum, you are the bottom of the pit with your quick assumptions and judgements. This family has been working with this boy for quite a while trying to get him back on track including sending him to a costly boot camp. Not only is this family NOT on welfare, but are quite comfortable in life, but expected better from their kids. May you have a tragedy in your life to make you wake up and realize you're not perfect.
Lowell

Phoenix, AZ

#13 Aug 16, 2006
MP in BR wrote:
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Talk about scum, you are the bottom of the pit with your quick assumptions and judgements. This family has been working with this boy for quite a while trying to get him back on track including sending him to a costly boot camp. Not only is this family NOT on welfare, but are quite comfortable in life, but expected better from their kids. May you have a tragedy in your life to make you wake up and realize you're not perfect.
Never said I was perfect. Only stating a fact that people stupid enough to fight with POLICE OFFICERS had better be willing to ACCEPT responsabilities for thier OWN actions. Obviously not working hard enough, huh? This thier only child? How much money they waste on a stupid "child" while the others did with out?
His death would have been any sooner, they could have saved themselfs some money. Since all that money couldn't instill values that should be taught by a PARENT, kind of brings your arguement to a scheeching halt, don't it?
You damn sure bet that on of my kids get killed running from police, won't hear of me whinning.
Lowell

Phoenix, AZ

#14 Aug 16, 2006
Here you go, look at my comments there also, http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TDRRTLC...
I have no sympathy for these punks.
Go Police.
Not Related

Oakley, CA

#15 Aug 16, 2006
MP in BR wrote:
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Talk about scum, you are the bottom of the pit with your quick assumptions and judgements. This family has been working with this boy for quite a while trying to get him back on track including sending him to a costly boot camp. Not only is this family NOT on welfare, but are quite comfortable in life, but expected better from their kids. May you have a tragedy in your life to make you wake up and realize you're not perfect.
My I ask how you know this? You live in Baton Rouge but You seem to know this family near where I live. Are you related in some way? Do any of you know anything about this kid?
In the police officers defence, I ask this.. "Why did he bail? Not only on foot but why did he force a police chase in the first place?
Did anyone witness the struggle? Maybe the kid was trying to grab the cops gun.
on the flip side, I have dealt with some sheriffs in east CoCo county. Some (not all) have for no reason harrassed me. One week I was sick, and decided after a week of nothing but sleep, I would return some late Hollywood video rentals. Because I was scruffy and sick looking, I had a neighborhood police officer and his side companion (coco sheriff) pull me over on my bike for "Running a stop sign". the police officer was very professional and questioned me nicely, The Sheriff was like something out of a bad moveie. Just all up in my face.
This has happened more then once. I think the sheriffs deal with alot of police chases and are just wound up more then city cops.
IMO
the sun king

Valley, AL

#16 Aug 16, 2006
Not Related wrote:
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My I ask how you know this? You live in Baton Rouge but You seem to know this family near where I live. Are you related in some way? Do any of you know anything about this kid?
In the police officers defence, I ask this.. "Why did he bail? Not only on foot but why did he force a police chase in the first place?
Did anyone witness the struggle? Maybe the kid was trying to grab the cops gun.
on the flip side, I have dealt with some sheriffs in east CoCo county. Some (not all) have for no reason harrassed me. One week I was sick, and decided after a week of nothing but sleep, I would return some late Hollywood video rentals. Because I was scruffy and sick looking, I had a neighborhood police officer and his side companion (coco sheriff) pull me over on my bike for "Running a stop sign". the police officer was very professional and questioned me nicely, The Sheriff was like something out of a bad moveie. Just all up in my face.
This has happened more then once. I think the sheriffs deal with alot of police chases and are just wound up more then city cops.
IMO
you should have disregarded all laws and taken off on your bike, then when the officer slams you down and ruffs you up because you're hitting him and yelling "i'll kill you pig" you can blame it all on the cop and try and sue for more crack money!
LizC

AOL

#17 Aug 16, 2006
Why was he running,what was his background? The police officer must had felt his life was at risk,if not then the copper was in the wrong & will hopefully pay for it.
the sun king

Valley, AL

#18 Aug 16, 2006
LizC wrote:
Why was he running,what was his background? The police officer must had felt his life was at risk,if not then the copper was in the wrong & will hopefully pay for it.
any time a person runs and then physically attacks an officer he and the public are at risk...whatever force is necessary..
Guest

Pineville, LA

#19 Aug 17, 2006
I worked with the kid who was in a youth program. He is a good kid who was going to college and working. The facts are they found no weapons and the car was returned to the two friends who was at the scene. Could it be he ran because he was scared, he only had a drivers permit. What is the SOP for pulling some one over and when you have a runner who does not pull out a weapon? Was there a fight? There was an abdomen wound, right? But was it because the bullet was fired from his back and exited his stomache. There are still alot of questions.
MP in BR

Denham Springs, LA

#20 Aug 17, 2006
Not Related wrote:
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My I ask how you know this? You live in Baton Rouge but You seem to know this family near where I live. Are you related in some way? Do any of you know anything about this kid?
In the police officers defence, I ask this.. "Why did he bail? Not only on foot but why did he force a police chase in the first place?
Did anyone witness the struggle? Maybe the kid was trying to grab the cops gun.
on the flip side, I have dealt with some sheriffs in east CoCo county. Some (not all) have for no reason harrassed me. One week I was sick, and decided after a week of nothing but sleep, I would return some late Hollywood video rentals. Because I was scruffy and sick looking, I had a neighborhood police officer and his side companion (coco sheriff) pull me over on my bike for "Running a stop sign". the police officer was very professional and questioned me nicely, The Sheriff was like something out of a bad moveie. Just all up in my face.
This has happened more then once. I think the sheriffs deal with alot of police chases and are just wound up more then city cops.
IMO
Yes, I know the family very well. This boy, Steffen was one of my sons best friends. Steffen is a twin and his twin didn't go through the troubled stages that Steffen did. They lost their mother about 10 years ago and their father and family were great in raising them, sometimes more strict than I was with my boys. I know they tried everything to get Steffen back on track and he was living in CA with relatives in hopes of accomplishing that, but as my husband (who is from California) said...that's not the state to try and get straight. We knew Steffen as a loving, good spirited kid, that made some mistakes, but didn't deserve to lose his life. There are so many criminals that are way worse than he was. This incident has truly hit home and made us realize that you cannot judge a situation when you don't know the facts. Steffen had so many friends here in BR that are now dealing with the loss including us, the parents.

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