East cypress stabbing
RoFlBrat

Antioch, CA

#21 Apr 25, 2012
So... Out of 70 people seeing this, this is what we got? This seems like a really screwed up game of telephone. 2 guys fought and one was stabbed. Maybe we should wait till the press release, rather than making crazy assumptions.

Really, this is Oakley, and you are telling me that 70 people were in one place at the same time, yet nobody witnessed it.

We have silly wannabe journalists pretending to cover the story anonymously and posting information on the web. I'm sure when the investigation is over, what happened will come out. Until then...

As for gangbangers in Oakley, you gotta be hardcore to rep that, right? Let me guess, are you repping the hood from Main street or Cypress? Seriously?
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#22 Apr 25, 2012
Be it as it may the radio transmission from officers on scene to the disbatcher said we have about 70 people on scene weather they showed up after just to see what was happening or they were there the whole time is unknown to me. As for bangers in Oakley remember about 3 or 4 years back when the Melody lodge got shot up right before they closed it down for good. That was do by ESO. East Side Oakley. Lastly I hope you don't think that A. I'm a wanna be journalist or B. there will be any kind of final report made public about this incedant. If you think that's true, I got a incedant that should have had a public final report made but it never did for you. On Holloween in 2007 one of Oakley PD's K-9 officers shot and killed a man who was 30' away from him holding a mag lite flash lite. He didn't release his partner from the car. He didn't use his tazor or pepper spray. He shot the man 3 times center mass and killed him, the man who was in his late 50's and had a history of mental illness did not deserve to die. The officer whom I had served with in the marine corps. knew deadly force and when to use it he all so knew the meaning of escalation of force. He had many tools he could of used but chose to kill the man. Hence the reason he is no longer a police officer in Oakley. There was never a final report made available to the public. More of the same in Oakley keep it quite and they will soon forget about it.
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#23 Apr 25, 2012
RoFlBrat wrote:
So... Out of 70 people seeing this, this is what we got? This seems like a really screwed up game of telephone. 2 guys fought and one was stabbed. Maybe we should wait till the press release, rather than making crazy assumptions.
Really, this is Oakley, and you are telling me that 70 people were in one place at the same time, yet nobody witnessed it.
We have silly wannabe journalists pretending to cover the story anonymously and posting information on the web. I'm sure when the investigation is over, what happened will come out. Until then...
As for gangbangers in Oakley, you gotta be hardcore to rep that, right? Let me guess, are you repping the hood from Main street or Cypress? Seriously?
Again you too sound like the voice of a Oakley police Officer. Everyone know that most people when they have down time they are on there smart phones. Everyone living in Oakley know Oakley police officers have plenty of down time. What better way to try and stop the citizens of Oakley from becoming aware of all that is happening in there city then to attempt to discredit and stop conversation about the police force than to reply to any negative weather true or false post about them then log on and write a some what educated sounding reply to try and end the conversation. So again I ask are you part of Pakley PD or Countra Cousta sheriff's department or any other local LE agency?
anon1

United States

#24 Apr 25, 2012
Enilman wrote:
<quoted text>Again you too sound like the voice of a Oakley police Officer. Everyone know that most people when they have down time they are on there smart phones. Everyone living in Oakley know Oakley police officers have plenty of down time. What better way to try and stop the citizens of Oakley from becoming aware of all that is happening in there city then to attempt to discredit and stop conversation about the police force than to reply to any negative weather true or false post about them then log on and write a some what educated sounding reply to try and end the conversation. So again I ask are you part of Pakley PD or Countra Cousta sheriff's department or any other local LE agency?
Haha the people that replied on this thread (oops and roflbrat) are in fact not officers of any such law enforcement agency. They just have enough sense to realize when someone needs to be quiet on something you know nothing about. Again, if everyone would stop making assumptions about what happened, or who everyone is, the world would be a better place.
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#25 Apr 25, 2012
Rowena Coetsee wrote:
Just contacted Robert Salonga, my colleague at the CCTimes on the public safety beat. He's aware of the situation but says it's a complicated situation w/ no clear victims or suspects, so he's holding off from reporting the story for now rather than risk compromising the police investigation. Says he hopes to write something soon, however.
What in the world did Mr. Salonga say was so complicated about simply reporting the facts there was a large gathering of people to watch a fight. One of the combatants produced a knife at some point during the fight and the outcome was one man was stabbed repeated times. Was taken to John Muir trama center Walnut Creek. At this point the local authorities have no suspects in custody but are exhausting all leads. Print this on page B23 of the CC times and it at least let's the community that reads the paper know it happened. Which would cause people to talk about it. Which in turn produces more tips and clues. Which would cause the Oakley PD to do real police work. Intact it might with a little luck produce a viable suspect. Without hurting the on going investigation . So again you want to do a little name dropping and give some lame excuss on why this hasn't be reported on. Which inturn leads me to again think this poster is a local LE officer.
anon1

United States

#26 Apr 25, 2012
Enilman wrote:
<quoted text>What in the world did Mr. Salonga say was so complicated about simply reporting the facts there was a large gathering of people to watch a fight. One of the combatants produced a knife at some point during the fight and the outcome was one man was stabbed repeated times. Was taken to John Muir trama center Walnut Creek. At this point the local authorities have no suspects in custody but are exhausting all leads. Print this on page B23 of the CC times and it at least let's the community that reads the paper know it happened. Which would cause people to talk about it. Which in turn produces more tips and clues. Which would cause the Oakley PD to do real police work. Intact it might with a little luck produce a viable suspect. Without hurting the on going investigation . So again you want to do a little name dropping and give some lame excuss on why this hasn't be reported on. Which inturn leads me to again think this poster is a local LE officer.
Well Mr.Detective, if you were really as smart as you are trying to be, you would know the police have done/are doing a full investigation and don't need any clues or tips from you. Have more faith in your officers, they've done a good job.
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#27 Apr 25, 2012
anon1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Haha the people that replied on this thread (oops and roflbrat) are in fact not officers of any such law enforcement agency. They just have enough sense to realize when someone needs to be quiet on something you know nothing about. Again, if everyone would stop making assumptions about what happened, or who everyone is, the world would be a better place.
Then not LE but they were there and refuse to tell Oakley PD anything. So that this person can be brought to justice. Or and again I have not assumed any of this only asked very direct questions that people refuse to answer. Do they believe that whom ever has done this will be made to pay for it with some sort of retaliation or street justice? Or do they just feel that the man that stabbed another man should be left alone and nothing should happen to him? Last why can't they reply for them selves. Maybe your right it should be left alone. Most likely I am very wrong about LE in our area. But none of things I have said or questions I have asked nor comments I am making strike me as funny or humorous in any way at all. But again that is only me. I live right there I have seen what goes on in that housing tract first hand.

PS how come you haven't commented on any of the other gangbanger comments I have made?
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#28 Apr 25, 2012
anon1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Mr.Detective, if you were really as smart as you are trying to be, you would know the police have done/are doing a full investigation and don't need any clues or tips from you. Have more faith in your officers, they've done a good job.
No one truly said they hadn't done a good job. All that was said was why in the world had now of this been reported to the public. I am not very smart nor have I ever said that. I have only made comments on what I have witnessed and asked questions I don't have the answers to. So try and calm down. There is no need to turn this into a childish name calling forum.
anon1

Antioch, CA

#29 Apr 25, 2012
Enilman wrote:
<quoted text>Then not LE but they were there and refuse to tell Oakley PD anything. So that this person can be brought to justice. Or and again I have not assumed any of this only asked very direct questions that people refuse to answer. Do they believe that whom ever has done this will be made to pay for it with some sort of retaliation or street justice? Or do they just feel that the man that stabbed another man should be left alone and nothing should happen to him? Last why can't they reply for them selves. Maybe your right it should be left alone. Most likely I am very wrong about LE in our area. But none of things I have said or questions I have asked nor comments I am making strike me as funny or humorous in any way at all. But again that is only me. I live right there I have seen what goes on in that housing tract first hand.

PS how come you haven't commented on any of the other gangbanger comments I have made?
No I am not a gangbanger, and no the person that did the stabbing deserves justice thru the police. I have yet to understand why this is of so much concern to you. This case is under investigation, so when the police decide how they prosecute said attacker, I'll be sure they notify you. During an investigation, police don't always have to come right out and tell people on sites like this all the details of the case. Have you not considered the person stabbed? Maybe he deserves some privacy in this matter??
anon1

Antioch, CA

#30 Apr 25, 2012
Enilman wrote:
<quoted text>Then not LE but they were there and refuse to tell Oakley PD anything. So that this person can be brought to justice. Or and again I have not assumed any of this only asked very direct questions that people refuse to answer. Do they believe that whom ever has done this will be made to pay for it with some sort of retaliation or street justice? Or do they just feel that the man that stabbed another man should be left alone and nothing should happen to him? Last why can't they reply for them selves. Maybe your right it should be left alone. Most likely I am very wrong about LE in our area. But none of things I have said or questions I have asked nor comments I am making strike me as funny or humorous in any way at all. But again that is only me. I live right there I have seen what goes on in that housing tract first hand.

PS how come you haven't commented on any of the other gangbanger comments I have made?
Are you positive they were there and have not reported anything to Oakley pd?? Hmm, maybe that's none of your business; not every case is your business.
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#31 Apr 25, 2012
anon1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No I am not a gangbanger, and no the person that did the stabbing deserves justice thru the police. I have yet to understand why this is of so much concern to you. This case is under investigation, so when the police decide how they prosecute said attacker, I'll be sure they notify you. During an investigation, police don't always have to come right out and tell people on sites like this all the details of the case. Have you not considered the person stabbed? Maybe he deserves some privacy in this matter??
No one is asking about the victim of this crime not the sex there age there race there eye color or any information at all about the victim. So yes I do believe they have every right to privacy. That has never once been the issue here. How you came up with the victims privacy and there feelings on this discussion escapes me.

Since: Mar 12

San Jose, CA

#32 Apr 25, 2012
anon1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Mr.Detective, if you were really as smart as you are trying to be, you would know the police have done/are doing a full investigation and don't need any clues or tips from you. Have more faith in your officers, they've done a good job.
After reading all comments on this topic, You Anon1 were there, dont care who you are! Youre an ass yet you dont like the community conversing about an incident that happened blocks from where they live! They have the right to ? And assume until THE LAW ENFORCEMENT & WRITERS feel they have there story straight enough to finally go public with it! And for assuming certain things, if you know so much about it why dont you just grow the balls and say what you need to say to keep everyones mouth shut?!?!? Oh wait.......... U dont have em.....
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#33 Apr 25, 2012
anon1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you positive they were there and have not reported anything to Oakley pd?? Hmm, maybe that's none of your business; not every case is your business.
Again I have no idea if they were there or not or what they have told the police or what they have not told them. It seemed to me that they had more information then the rest of the community. Because again this crime has had no mention at all in the local news media. So it seemed those were the only two possible reasons why they have more information and want the discussion stopped. In fact it is my Bussiness directly and the rest of the citizens of Oakley indirectly. Mine because I live right there. And the publics because they have a right to know the kinds of things that are happening in our community. Someone who is willing to stab another person. One that they know. Could just as easily stab the old lady at the ATM at dark when no one is around. Or should I believe this person is a pilar of the community and for reasons completely out of character decided to stab another human during what was suppose to be a one on one fair fight to stop some shit talking that had been occurring according to one of the other poster that you know
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#34 Apr 25, 2012
anon1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No I am not a gangbanger, and no the person that did the stabbing deserves justice thru the police. I have yet to understand why this is of so much concern to you. This case is under investigation, so when the police decide how they prosecute said attacker, I'll be sure they notify you. During an investigation, police don't always have to come right out and tell people on sites like this all the details of the case. Have you not considered the person stabbed? Maybe he deserves some privacy in this matter??
Again it is my bussiness because I live there. Also the reason I am so concerned. But lastly you must be LE because how else will you make sure they notify me when they close this case. So again I say this it would seem that local LE is trying to silence the questions and concerns of the community
oops

Antioch, CA

#35 Apr 25, 2012
First of all, I do know the facts. Second, Im not a gang banger. And before you get everyone in a panic.... AGAIN, this was NOT gang related at all!!!!! I am not going to say who I am or how I know. Are you going to place your name or info up here? No? Neither party had any links to ANY gangs. Oh and there were less then 10 people total. Read what I said happened again. All I am going to say is I know the truth and the facts. If you dont believe me, wait and see what happens in court, then you can say, OOPS! And peeps, I do short hand at times and did not feel like typing at first. When people start guessing, then rumors start and problems occur. Then we have people that panic and some KID gets shot.....Sound familiar????? We should not put things out there unless we are sure of what we are tossing out there.
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#36 Apr 25, 2012
So let's see Oakly PD do such a great job. Let's us just see if there is any mention what so ever of the shooting from a moving vehicle at another vehicle. Again we will all see how this crime will not be released to the public. How there will be no mention at all of this even happing. Even though there has been countless calls to the Oakley PD and the CHP. Everyone sees the helicopter over head. But this will not be brought to the attention of the community.
oops

Antioch, CA

#37 Apr 25, 2012
oh nad last... the Oakley PD has everyone involved.... EVERYONE! And some deserve privacy..... When all is done, you will know the facts. The public was NEVER in danger. This was between two guys only. Thats it. This is so stupid!!!!!!! And I hate to tell you this, but CC Times got it wrong. NO ONE fled the scene. All were accounted for.
OMG!!!!
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#38 Apr 25, 2012
oops wrote:
First of all, I do know the facts. Second, Im not a gang banger. And before you get everyone in a panic.... AGAIN, this was NOT gang related at all!!!!! I am not going to say who I am or how I know. Are you going to place your name or info up here? No? Neither party had any links to ANY gangs. Oh and there were less then 10 people total. Read what I said happened again. All I am going to say is I know the truth and the facts. If you dont believe me, wait and see what happens in court, then you can say, OOPS! And peeps, I do short hand at times and did not feel like typing at first. When people start guessing, then rumors start and problems occur. Then we have people that panic and some KID gets shot.....Sound familiar????? We should not put things out there unless we are sure of what we are tossing out there.
Again I respond with this. The facts I have are the facts that the officers on seen reported them selves. As for your info. I did not ask your name phone number address or anything else. What I did say was you sounded like LE to me as you had more info the the rest of the community. Then I second guessed my self and made the banger comment. Because as I said before I live right there. I have had the little hoods on my porch before. So assumed it was out of the same problematic house where gangbangers have been before. So I am glad to hear this wasn't gang related at all. But no matter what the public has a right to hear the vague and general information of the incadent. So that we as the public don't have to go around making assumptions bases on pieces of information. When they could just release a general discription of what happened and there would not be a problem.
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#39 Apr 25, 2012
oops wrote:
the truth is two guys got into a fist fight. There were not 70 peeps. a few boys were there to make sure it was a one on one old fashion fair fight, to end all the crap and problems one kid has been causing. But that kid showed his true colors and stabbed the other 3 times. There is a investagation, thats why info can not be released yet. If the PD is to protect us they must do what they need to do. There was no danger to the public. This was a personnel not random fight.
Good thing the boys were there to keep things fair. Great job at that guys!!!! I'm not sure about you oops not sure at all.
Enilman

Grass Valley, CA

#40 Apr 25, 2012
oops wrote:
oh nad last... the Oakley PD has everyone involved.... EVERYONE! And some deserve privacy..... When all is done, you will know the facts. The public was NEVER in danger. This was between two guys only. Thats it. This is so stupid!!!!!!! And I hate to tell you this, but CC Times got it wrong. NO ONE fled the scene. All were accounted for.
OMG!!!!
Then again as I said before any one willing to stab someone they know during a fist fight where the "boys" we're to keep it fair. Must have been lighting quick with the knife with deadly accuratecy. So who says if he would do it in the heat of the moment then who says he wouldn't do it if no one was around and he was broke

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