California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

[The Devil]

We live in a strange culture, it seems more appealing to give more attention to a problem than it's solution.
This is regarded as economy.
You might get the impression that we are an inquisitive people.
Well, almost.

[Spangle]

Darn lost another idiot tot he toilet.

[RiccardoFire]

Last True Conservative wrote:

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The main reason that there are so many people in treatment for cannabis is that if caught with a small-medium amount of cannabis, the court will usually offer a diversion program (ie..."treatment"), rather than jail time. Most of these "patients" are not going into treatment voluntarily. Also, the stats for drivers who have THC in their system are somewhat misleading as they show are who has consumed THC in the past 30 days, rather that the past 24-72 hours with other substances such as alcohol, cocaine, and meth.
I'm not saying that cannabis is a cure-all or isn't bad for you, but it is also not the "devil weed" that it was once made out to be.

By "people" do you mean underage? If made legal like Colorado, there still will be an age limit. Smoking pot while a kid is not a good idea, is it?

[The Smell Precedes Him]

Spangle wrote:

Darn lost another idiot tot he toilet.

Think again.

[Bruno24]

RiccardoFire wrote:

Dear Potheads: If weed apparently CURES cancer...?
As a lot of you state (as you're uneducated) why are we still using chemo for cancer? Why not give patients a giant bag of weed and send them on their merry way?
Weed does not cure cancer, it's only lessens the pain!
I'm basically saying stop making up/exaggerating facts about weed to try and get it legal.... The amount of times I see people saying it CURES cancer is unbelievable,
If you want it legal because you like the "high" feeling, then tell the truth, don't make it out to be the cure for the world.

I know it is hard to believe. But if cannabis can be used to ease the pain of chemo and radio therapy, notably the nausea, cannabis, indeed THC seems also to transform many type of cancerous cells into autophagic cells, i.e. eating each other(*). This has been discovered on mice and extended on other mammals and some people have been cured. It looks like the progress are slow due to the fact that cannabis is schedule one, and that's probably the reason chemo and radio continue. I am not sure, nor do I pretend, that THC will replace completely chemo and radio, but given the facts that seems plausible to me. Progress in science are always slow and applications are slower due to conflict of interests, so you imagine how making cannabis schedule one can slow the progress!

(*) http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

[Goat Boy]

RiccardoFire wrote:

<quoted text>By "people" do you mean underage? If made legal like Colorado, there still will be an age limit. Smoking pot while a kid is not a good idea, is it?

While influential in his field, revolutionary in his conceptions and synonymous with genius itself, Albert Einstein had ideas about the responsible use of nuclear power, world government and policy in the Middle East. But to a world that is happy to capitalize on the value of a resource without taking personal responsibility for it's intelligent use, it became necessary for certain people to present themselves in support of their own ambitions- resigned to the opinion,
"Einstein , that's not a very good idea."
I like your question though.

[RiccardoFire]

Bruno24 wrote:

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I know it is hard to believe. But if cannabis can be used to ease the pain of chemo and radio therapy, notably the nausea, cannabis, indeed THC seems also to transform many type of cancerous cells into autophagic cells, i.e. eating each other(*). This has been discovered on mice and extended on other mammals and some people have been cured. It looks like the progress are slow due to the fact that cannabis is schedule one, and that's probably the reason chemo and radio continue. I am not sure, nor do I pretend, that THC will replace completely chemo and radio, but given the facts that seems plausible to me. Progress in science are always slow and applications are slower due to conflict of interests, so you imagine how making cannabis schedule one can slow the progress!
(*) http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

I know it can be helpful for cancer, but not cure it. If u want it legal to get high, then it's okay to say that, but to say all these great things about what it does is bogus.

[Bruno24]

And as I said before, the fact that THC can help curing cancer was discovered 30 years before in the US.

"Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice's lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602."

And cannabis has been made schedule one!

http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v01/n572/a11.ht...

If you accept that your government lie to to you, you can expect the worst.

[RiccardoFire]

Goat Boy wrote:

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While influential in his field, revolutionary in his conceptions and synonymous with genius itself, Albert Einstein had ideas about the responsible use of nuclear power, world government and policy in the Middle East. But to a world that is happy to capitalize on the value of a resource without taking personal responsibility for it's intelligent use, it became necessary for certain people to present themselves in support of their own ambitions- resigned to the opinion,
"Einstein , that's not a very good idea."
I like your question though.

Pot is nothing new.

[Goat Boy]

RiccardoFire wrote:

<quoted text>Pot is nothing new.

And you are a fountain of novelty.
Why don't you throw the world in while you're at It. 4.54 billion years old, tell me something I don't already know. What a rip-off.

[Can you ear me]

Can you ear me? me now? me now?

[RiccardoFire]

Goat Boy wrote:

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And you are a fountain of novelty.
Why don't you throw the world in while you're at It. 4.54 billion years old, tell me something I don't already know. What a rip-off.

You can't afford it?

[Asian Guy]

Bruno24 wrote:

And as I said before, the fact that THC can help curing cancer was discovered 30 years before in the US.
"Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice's lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602."
And cannabis has been made schedule one!
http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v01/n572/a11.ht...
If you accept that your government lie to to you, you can expect the worst.

if marijuana cures cancer, why do we still have millions dying every year?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_die...

frankly, I don't believe anything that drug addicts say. they are liars. they will sell their soul for a hit.

you rant about how all drugs should be legalized. yeah. go take some krokodil and spare us your problems.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europ...

[Wiskers]

Can you hear me now you bunch of skankers?

[The Miracle Worker]

RiccardoFire wrote:

<quoted text>You can't afford it?

I'm sorry.
Do you even speak English?

[Wiskers]

Another GOP, Republican Crank-Yanker Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) is set to take over as Chair of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

Since this raving idiot has questioned the scientific consensus on climate change.

[NeverAllowSimple Answers]

Wiskers wrote:

Another GOP, Republican Crank-Yanker Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) is set to take over as Chair of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.
Since this raving idiot has questioned the scientific consensus on climate change.

Space- the ultimate barrier.
I think Steve Jobs had it right.
The impulse to technology should also be used to claim abstract territory and explore the world within.
It's practically all that's allowed anyway.
(And even that with a degree of restriction.)

[Ferenczy]

Uh oh, federal government has demanded that Mendocino County turn over to them all records pertaining to the medicinal growing program. This information includes the names and addresses of growers and how many plants they produce. Me thinks they are getting ready to initiate round 2 of medicinal marijuana busts aimed at the emerald triangle.

[Trendy]

Illinois considers legalizing medical marijuana.

[Mike DiRucci]

Big D wrote:

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Not at all, we are good :)

Cool! ;)