Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,370

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214652 Sep 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
well, Francis is back, so all logical discussion just died...
Oh the irony.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214653 Sep 6, 2013
Huh wrote:
What a childish fool you are.
More irony! Love it.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214654 Sep 6, 2013
Mikey wrote:
<quoted text>
ad hominem, ad hominem, ad hominem
..right moron, calling people names all the time and I'm supposedly guilty of it..LOL..That does make you a hypocrite ..dummy.
Irony! Irony! Irony!

That's why I like you silly jackasses.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214655 Sep 6, 2013
Mikey wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope not mine...moron. the bigoted twirl is all yours. I'm not lying about sh*t. You are trying to repress people. You discount and attack meaningful relationships, reducing them to only sex. You're an ignorant pig and I'll attack you're arrogant bullsh*t every chance I get..Smirk from my a$$crack you bigoted son of a b*tch.
Nice! Screw that silly tolerance and diversity schtick right? Hell yeah. Get it all out fruitloops. Frankie's listening.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214657 Sep 6, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I don't care either, that was never the conversation. Try to keep up, the conversation was that anal sex is the norm for everyone. It's not.
Big D just had to add his irrelevant and dopey two cents. He couldn't help it. I'm like that too, except mine's not as dumb.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#214658 Sep 6, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah sure it is. On the internet. Too funny! Mine's 20" on the internet.
LOL no kidding Huh wants to get into an argument on the internet on size. LOL
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214659 Sep 6, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>LOL no kidding Huh wants to get into an argument on the internet on size. LOL
That's why I like the silly jackass.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#214660 Sep 6, 2013
1. I think facing the fact that GLBT is a sexual disorder is the only base for a effective and healthy response. The inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex exposes that reality.
2. The denial of that reality has led to a foolish attempt to equate SS couples to marriage. Pointing out the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex compared to intercourse exposed the facade.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#214661 Sep 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
1. I think facing the fact that GLBT is a sexual disorder is the only base for a effective and healthy response. The inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex exposes that reality.
2. The denial of that reality has led to a foolish attempt to equate SS couples to marriage. Pointing out the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex compared to intercourse exposed the facade.
No one needs to face your opinion ( you donít know what a fact is )

Your denial of the fact ( now this actually is a fact ) that same sex marriage is indeed legal and recognized in a growing number of the states at the state level and all 50 states and the federal level is your just trying to escape from reality, you may need to see a professional about your mental disorder
Mikey

Fullerton, CA

#214662 Sep 6, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice! Screw that silly tolerance and diversity schtick right? Hell yeah. Get it all out fruitloops. Frankie's listening.
Yawn..I show no tolerance where none is given...See..read above, the asstroll is still spewing bigotry and misinformation....trying to repress anybody that 'he' deems deviant..

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#214663 Sep 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You equate these behaviors and then demand we carry the consequences of immoral stupidity.
This after YOU have lost partners because of foolish promiscuity?
All you are doing is exposing the degree of your denial.
The only partner I ever lost (he was an ex) was due to him being crushed between two buses (true story).

I've explained to you many times that with the number of gay men having sexual intercourse on a daily basis, the actual number of illness or death is not very high.

There are risky behaviors that EVERYONE engages in. We do not slap the cuffs on them simply for engaging in an activity that carries a risk.

You want to call our behavior immoral. Well, you behave immorally when you get on here and make stupid comments about curing gay people via the magical epigenetic procedure. You make gay kids and gay adults believe that they are disordered--that they don't belong in society. These people go out and kill themselves or fall into a life-numbing existence of drugs and/or alcohol.

And then there are those people who are inspired by your words to act violently towards gays.

If you want to talk immoral, THAT'S immoral.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#214664 Sep 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
1. I think facing the fact that GLBT is a sexual disorder is the only base for a effective and healthy response. The inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex exposes that reality.
2. The denial of that reality has led to a foolish attempt to equate SS couples to marriage. Pointing out the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex compared to intercourse exposed the facade.
Here's where you post goes off course... You said "I think..." After that, it was nothing but pure, unscientific, archaic bullshittery.

You keep throwing your canned and contrived opinions at the wall, hoping one will stick.

They never do.

"In the End" the world is marching towards a day when homosexuality will be viewed as just another, normal characteristic.

And there's not a thing that you can do about it.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#214665 Sep 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
1. I think facing the fact that GLBT is a sexual disorder is the only base for a effective and healthy response. The inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex exposes that reality.
2. The denial of that reality has led to a foolish attempt to equate SS couples to marriage. Pointing out the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex compared to intercourse exposed the facade.
you do realize not all gay male couples practice anal sex, don't you?

and gay woman surely don't,(well, many people of all sexual identities realize and utilize the anal erogenous zone...you wouldn't know about this from you exclusively solo sexual life..)

in fact, SSM IS totally equal to opposite sex couple marriages. this s a basic fact and the law of the land, now.

again, you attempts to post clear and provable bullshit as fact have been called out and you cannot counter them in any way...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#214666 Sep 6, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
The only partner I ever lost (he was an ex) was due to him being crushed between two buses (true story).
I've explained to you many times that with the number of gay men having sexual intercourse on a daily basis, the actual number of illness or death is not very high.
There are risky behaviors that EVERYONE engages in. We do not slap the cuffs on them simply for engaging in an activity that carries a risk.
You want to call our behavior immoral. Well, you behave immorally when you get on here and make stupid comments about curing gay people via the magical epigenetic procedure. You make gay kids and gay adults believe that they are disordered--that they don't belong in society. These people go out and kill themselves or fall into a life-numbing existence of drugs and/or alcohol.
And then there are those people who are inspired by your words to act violently towards gays.
If you want to talk immoral, THAT'S immoral.
At one time you indicated losing a partner to AIDS. However, the point you are avoiding is that anal sex has had a devastating affect on our society.

You equating that with natural sex, especially as a social worker, is abhorrent. You falsely create fear for some, and minimize risk for others.

Then you turn around and assert that the idea of curing a sexual disorder is immoral. Unbelievable.

You further your perverted denial by asserting that facing issues in life results in people not feeling welcome in society. My challenge to homosexuals results from walking that path ahead of them. A monster mutation who embraces the good, bad and ugly. That honesty has resulted in a welcome embrace. Except from those who want to maintain their own denial.

Anyone with a small measure of common sense can clearly see who is putting people at risk VV, and it ain't me.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#214667 Sep 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
1. I think facing the fact that GLBT is a sexual disorder is the only base for a effective and healthy response. The inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex exposes that reality.
2. The denial of that reality has led to a foolish attempt to equate SS couples to marriage. Pointing out the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex compared to intercourse exposed the facade.
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's where you post goes off course... You said "I think..." After that, it was nothing but pure, unscientific, archaic bullshittery.
You keep throwing your canned and contrived opinions at the wall, hoping one will stick.
They never do.
"In the End" the world is marching towards a day when homosexuality will be viewed as just another, normal characteristic.
And there's not a thing that you can do about it.
An ad homoan troll attack masquerading as a logical response.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#214668 Sep 6, 2013
Mikey wrote:
<quoted text>
Yawn..I show no tolerance where none is given...See..read above, the asstroll is still spewing bigotry and misinformation....trying to repress anybody that 'he' deems deviant..
I understand. It's not intolerance when you do it.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#214669 Sep 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
1. I think facing the fact that GLBT is a sexual disorder is the only base for a effective and healthy response. The inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex exposes that reality.
2. The denial of that reality has led to a foolish attempt to equate SS couples to marriage. Pointing out the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex compared to intercourse exposed the facade.
<quoted text>
An ad homoan troll attack masquerading as a logical response.
yet i gave you clear, verifiable facts that once again prove your bullshit wrong....no ad hominem there, just facts you cannot counter...

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#214670 Sep 6, 2013
Ki....Still pushing those same old irrational arguments I see.

Sexual orientation is not a disorder, but your refusal to accept this fact still fails as an excuse for denial of fundamental rights, as we don't use adult consensual sexual behavior, or even "disorder" to deny or restrict fundamental rights. You above others should know this, if your claim of having a genetic disorder is true. You were still allowed to get married, despite the fact you are neither male nor female. Yet you wish to use gender as a basis to deny to others the rights you enjoy. Amazing!

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#214671 Sep 6, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand. It's not intolerance when you do it.
we are not supposed to be tolerant of prejudicial bigots. we are supposed to fight them in every way we can. this is a moral imperative. you are the type of human the world is trying to rid itself of...

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#214672 Sep 6, 2013
Marriage it is a fundamental right of the individual. This includes "all persons".

The only eligibility requirement for fundamental rights is being human.

Reasonable restrictions may be made only when a compelling and legitimate governmental interest can withstand judicial scrutiny. Most can agree with the courts that reasonable restrictions include age, ability to demonstrate informed consent, and not being closely related or currently married. Gender is not a legitimate restriction.
While churches may place any restrictions they choose on their own ceremonies, the government can only restrict fundamental rights when a compelling and legitimate justification can be demonstrated.

Procreation ability has never been a requirement for marriage, and therefore fails as a legitimate qualification. Yet even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted. Denial of equal treatment under the law provides nothing to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.

Gay couples are seeking to be treated equally under the laws currently in effect, in the remaining states that do not yet recognize their marriages, now that they are recognized by the federal government.

Neither tradition nor gender provides a legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of this fundamental right.

Ki's demeaning judgement also fails as a valid excuse.

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