Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Political babble...
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Time to start hanging as a means of keeping the crooks under control.

A South Lake Tahoe police officer pleaded guilty May 22, 2013 Wednesday to multiple counts of witness tampering and obstruction of an official proceeding.

A three-year, multi-agency investigation involving the FBI led to 44-year-old John Gerald Polandís arrest in January 2013 on five counts of witness tampering.

Fifteen minute trials and hanging take another 15 minutes.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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All true.
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One in which you are unable, or unwilling to consider the possible long term consequences of for society as a whole.
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You are not prohibited from enjoying certain rights and protections provided they are enjoyed, so to speak, as part of an opposite sex married couple, regardless of orientation labels one wishes to use.
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As there are homosexuals who disagree with you.
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You are able or unwilling to consider the consequences of such a course if action. At what point does redefining marriage for whomever may ask, render marriage meaningless to society as a whole?
Countries have been recognizing same-sex unions since 1979 (The Netherlands).

Those countries where same-sex marriage are legal have hardly fallen or experienced consequences as a result.

What, exactly, are you afraid of? Are you still fearful of polygamy? Remember our discussion about the Attorney General of Virginia arguing that polygamy (as well as other ridiculous marriages) would result from allowing interracial couples to marry?

Fear of what lies ahead has never stopped legitimate progress.

Cowardice has rarely ever resulted in success.
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Countries have been recognizing same-sex unions since 1979 (The Netherlands).
Those countries where same-sex marriage are legal have hardly fallen or experienced consequences as a result.
What, exactly, are you afraid of? Are you still fearful of polygamy? Remember our discussion about the Attorney General of Virginia arguing that polygamy (as well as other ridiculous marriages) would result from allowing interracial couples to marry?
Fear of what lies ahead has never stopped legitimate progress.
Cowardice has rarely ever resulted in success.
Why would you fear poly marriage?
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veryvermilion wrote:
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Countries have been recognizing same-sex unions since 1979 (The Netherlands).
Those countries where same-sex marriage are legal have hardly fallen or experienced consequences as a result.
What, exactly, are you afraid of? Are you still fearful of polygamy? Remember our discussion about the Attorney General of Virginia arguing that polygamy (as well as other ridiculous marriages) would result from allowing interracial couples to marry?
Fear of what lies ahead has never stopped legitimate progress.
Cowardice has rarely ever resulted in success.
Polygamy is not a "ridiculous marriage" you flaming hypocrite!
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Rock Hudson wrote:
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The one about the tent and the sleeping bag?
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The gay cowboy was ridin' ropin' and redecoratin'.
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Bong the Gong and get this mess over with.

A South Lake Tahoe police officer pleaded guilty May 22, 2013 Wednesday to multiple counts of witness tampering and obstruction of an official proceeding.

A three-year, multi-agency investigation involving the FBI led to 44-year-old John Gerald Polandís arrest in January 2013 on five counts of witness tampering.

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Why would you fear poly marriage?
I don't fear polygamy. I just don't endorse it.

It's been my personal and professional experience that relationships of that kind are rarely successful and happy for all members. There are alliances built, sometimes without the knowledge of all of the players. Resentments can build. People can feel lost in the crowd. It's difficult enough to manage a relationship between two people, let alone several.

I've never been in any kind of relationship that was not monogamous. I think I would be jealous. I think I would feel lonely and easily hurt.

It's not something that I could find myself getting behind. But I don't "fear" it.

If polygamy happens, then it happens. It's not likely to impact me in any way. If people want to try to live their lives in plural relationships, that's up to them. More power to them.

I think most people know enough to choose their battles. Polygamy is not my battle.
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When are the stupid elected officials going to take their?

Workers who lose their jobs would have to clear a drug screening to qualify for unemployment compensation under a proposal approved by the Texas Legislature
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I don't fear polygamy. I just don't endorse it.
It's been my personal and professional experience that relationships of that kind are rarely successful and happy for all members. There are alliances built, sometimes without the knowledge of all of the players. Resentments can build. People can feel lost in the crowd. It's difficult enough to manage a relationship between two people, let alone several.
I've never been in any kind of relationship that was not monogamous. I think I would be jealous. I think I would feel lonely and easily hurt.
It's not something that I could find myself getting behind. But I don't "fear" it.
If polygamy happens, then it happens. It's not likely to impact me in any way. If people want to try to live their lives in plural relationships, that's up to them. More power to them.
I think most people know enough to choose their battles. Polygamy is not my battle.
Listen to yourself bigot. Just replace polygamy with same sex marriage in your rant. You'd scream and probably vomit if someone talked that trash against SSM.

Who are you to decide if someone's marriage is worthy or viable? Polygamy deserves the same respect and consideration as SSM. They're both marriage, you know, equal.

Marriage. There is no one right way.
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I don't fear polygamy. I just don't endorse it.
It's been my personal and professional experience that relationships of that kind are rarely successful and happy for all members. There are alliances built, sometimes without the knowledge of all of the players. Resentments can build. People can feel lost in the crowd. It's difficult enough to manage a relationship between two people, let alone several.
I've never been in any kind of relationship that was not monogamous. I think I would be jealous. I think I would feel lonely and easily hurt.
It's not something that I could find myself getting behind. But I don't "fear" it.
If polygamy happens, then it happens. It's not likely to impact me in any way. If people want to try to live their lives in plural relationships, that's up to them. More power to them.
I think most people know enough to choose their battles. Polygamy is not my battle.
You claimed people are afraid of polygamy. I call bullsh!t. No one fears it.
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veryvermilion wrote:
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I don't fear polygamy. I just don't endorse it.
It's been my personal and professional experience that relationships of that kind are rarely successful and happy for all members. There are alliances built, sometimes without the knowledge of all of the players. Resentments can build. People can feel lost in the crowd. It's difficult enough to manage a relationship between two people, let alone several.
I've never been in any kind of relationship that was not monogamous. I think I would be jealous. I think I would feel lonely and easily hurt.
It's not something that I could find myself getting behind. But I don't "fear" it.
If polygamy happens, then it happens. It's not likely to impact me in any way. If people want to try to live their lives in plural relationships, that's up to them. More power to them.
I think most people know enough to choose their battles. Polygamy is not my battle.
Most polygamists consider SSM their battle too. I notice it's not reciprocal. It should be. What harm would a loving marriage of three men cause you?

Are you for marriage equality or are you for more of the same, marriage only for approved groups?

Bottom line is you are a hypocrite.

Marriage. There is no one right way.
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Bong the Gong and get this mess over with.

A South Lake Tahoe police officer pleaded guilty May 22, 2013 Wednesday to multiple counts of witness tampering and obstruction of an official proceeding.

A three-year, multi-agency investigation involving the FBI led to 44-year-old John Gerald Polandís arrest in January 2013 on five counts of witness tampering.
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Listen to yourself bigot. Just replace polygamy with same sex marriage in your rant. You'd scream and probably vomit if someone talked that trash against SSM.
Who are you to decide if someone's marriage is worthy or viable? Polygamy deserves the same respect and consideration as SSM. They're both marriage, you know, equal.
Marriage. There is no one right way.
Whoop Whoop.
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News 2013;

The Pentagon has been confronting an increase in reports of sexual misconduct, harassment and crime and is under pressure from Congress to overhaul the way it deals with such cases.

Some lawmakers have introduced legislation that would take the power to prosecute sexual crimes and abuse outside the military chain of command.

Now this is where there are serious problems to be handled, no where else!
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veryvermilion wrote:
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Cowardice has rarely ever resulted in success.
Caligula thinks her adolescent "anything goes" attitude is "bravery".

One would almost think those people are mentally ill.
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Speaking of mental illness, one of the large intestine propagandists says that the caving in by the Boy Scouts will "save lives".

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/05/allowing_...

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Listen to yourself bigot. Just replace polygamy with same sex marriage in your rant. You'd scream and probably vomit if someone talked that trash against SSM.
Who are you to decide if someone's marriage is worthy or viable? Polygamy deserves the same respect and consideration as SSM. They're both marriage, you know, equal.
Marriage. There is no one right way.
Look, as much as you continue to try to involve me in an effort that has no impact on my life; one that I do not personally endorse, I am not going to take the bait.

Same-sex marriage is important to me because I am a gay man. I see the damage caused by the efforts to block same-sex marriage.

That's why I fight for it. That's why I'm here on this particular TOPIX forum and not on a "polygamy forum".

I don't seek out issues that I do not endorse or support.

I've been crystal clear about my personal and professional feelings re: polygamy.

You believe that same-sex marriage and polygamy are one and the same. I don't agree.

Same-sex marriage intends to unite two people together. Polygamy does not.

If you want to believe that I'm being hypocritical, that's fine with me.

I personally don't believe that you're in favor of polygamy. Rather, you're trying to stir the pot by linking same-sex marriage to polygamy.

Good luck with that.

None of the arguments before the Supreme Court or other courts involving same-sex marriage have EVER included arguments for polygamy.

We have a very specific goal.

If you, personally, wish to have more than one wife with an extended group of children who have different mothers, then that's YOUR battle--not mine.

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Most polygamists consider SSM their battle too. I notice it's not reciprocal. It should be. What harm would a loving marriage of three men cause you?
Are you for marriage equality or are you for more of the same, marriage only for approved groups?
Bottom line is you are a hypocrite.
Marriage. There is no one right way.
"Most polygamists"? Really? Where's your proof?

I did a brief bit of research to see if your claim holds water, and the only thing I could find where polygamists support same-sex marriage was an interview of the people portrayed on "Sister Wives".

They support same-sex marriage.

Are they representative of "most polygamists"?

Prove your comments. Show us where you get your "facts".
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veryvermilion wrote:
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Look, as much as you continue to try to involve me in an effort that has no impact on my life; one that I do not personally endorse, I am not going to take the bait.
Same-sex marriage is important to me because I am a gay man. I see the damage caused by the efforts to block same-sex marriage.
That's why I fight for it. That's why I'm here on this particular TOPIX forum and not on a "polygamy forum".
I don't seek out issues that I do not endorse or support.
I've been crystal clear about my personal and professional feelings re: polygamy.
You believe that same-sex marriage and polygamy are one and the same. I don't agree.
Same-sex marriage intends to unite two people together. Polygamy does not.
If you want to believe that I'm being hypocritical, that's fine with me.
I personally don't believe that you're in favor of polygamy. Rather, you're trying to stir the pot by linking same-sex marriage to polygamy.
Good luck with that.
None of the arguments before the Supreme Court or other courts involving same-sex marriage have EVER included arguments for polygamy.
We have a very specific goal.
If you, personally, wish to have more than one wife with an extended group of children who have different mothers, then that's YOUR battle--not mine.
You are a bigot and a hypocrite.

Poly MARRIAGE deserves the same respect and consideration as same sex MARRIAGE.

Suppose I said to you If you want to marry a man, then that's your battle, not ours. You'd get so upset you'd vomit and file hate crime charges.

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