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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Anonymous

Vallejo, CA

#184713 Mar 26, 2013
Supreme Court hints that it won't issue sweeping ruling on same-sex marriage
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/...

In a historic argument on a challenge to state laws that limit marriage to heterosexual couples, the Supreme Court indicated Tuesday that it might be hesitant to strike down such laws.

Following the oral argument, Pete Williams of NBC News reported that it seemed “quite obvious that the U.S. Supreme Court is not prepared to issue any kind of sweeping ruling” declaring that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry.

Williams said there seemed to be “very little eagerness” from any of the justices to “embrace that broad a ruling.”
Batsheva de Philadelphia

Napa, CA

#184714 Mar 26, 2013
What about having the Olympics in Bell, Ca ( wherever that place is)?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184715 Mar 26, 2013
Possible outcomes

I suspect it will be one of 4 possible outcomes

#1 Overturn the appeal ( least likely )

#2 Refuse to rule on it, basically kick it back to the state, which would mean the California courts appeal would stand and Prop 8 struck down with no consequences or ramifications to other states ( this may be as likely as anything else ) That is what they did with Gore vs Bush

#3 Narrow ruling supporting the appeal affecting only California

# 4 Broad ruling affecting the entire US ( this is nearly as unlikely as #1 )

Personally #3 is what I have been expecting, however...#2 would be the way to do it causing the least amount of uproar

DOMA will be a whole different story, there is no way that ruling will not affect the entire US
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#184716 Mar 26, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Words describe reality.
For instance, your tirade exposes you as an idiot.
See what I mean?
Marriage can never describe a ss couple. If you call the tail on a dog a leg, what is it?
At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
ss couples are a direct, defective contradiction to the singular goal of evolution. Literally 'unmarriage'.
Smile.
i laugh out loud because, well, you're wrong. and the absurdity of your smugness.

marriage is a marriage is a marriage. whether you accept someone else as being married is moot. it's the legal license from the state that makes it a legal reality. whether you accept that reality or not is up to you.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#184717 Mar 26, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so funny!
If you take out the European add-ons, and specific Churches already included in the American denominations listed, not to mention the Jewish faith, you have a teanie minority that is rarely represented by more than one 'church' in any community of our country.
Why not just list the comparison honey? I know, it's worse then your obvious stretch. I guess when you are trying to convince people to accept an imposter relationship, this is only another step of deceit...
Snicker.
snicker snicker

you're so adorable when you get sassy.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#184719 Mar 26, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
A “Lost Cause” supporter LOL
I didn’t know there were any left alive
The "Lost Cause" was an effort by the south to re-write history, and what the war was actually about, and to vilify and make heroic certain figures.
If you actually knew anything... anything at all about American history, you would know that every cause of the war was linked to slavery.
Economically, politically, in every sense and every cause, slavery was at the bottom of it.
They withdrew from the union because of the fact that with Lincoln as president they would not be able to maintain an equal number of slave states to non-slave states, which would eventually be the end of slavery, so they succeeded from the union
Here you go, this is elementary schools stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_A...
Did Lincoln say repeatedly the war was not being fought over slavery? yes or no. Do you think after the Civil war blacks and whites were treated equal?

There is the issue with the 13th amendment, on January 11, 1864 the 13th amendment(which would effectively ban slavery) was proposed, in April, 1864 the bill was rejected(that's right REJECTED), so here is the problem, the Union(which apparently according to some people was fighting to end slavery) actually voted down the 1st anti-slavery amendment, and it wasn't until February 1, 1865 when they voted on it again(and this time it passed)
So if they were in fact fighting over slavery, why would they vote down the Amendment that personified their reason for fighting? it was because they weren't fighting over slavery.

Saying Slavery is the cause the civil war is an Oversimplification, basically people try to simplify the causes of the war down to 1 issue, which causes people to ignore all of the other issues, such as State authority over Federal authority(or in other words, States Rights)

While Slavery was an issue during the War, historically speaking, it was one of literally dozens(if not hundreds) of causes for the war. remember that at that time, everyone volunteered to go to war, which meant that all 3+Million people had their own individual reasons to fight, and yes some on both sides did fight for slavery, but some fought solely for States Rights as well

Big D

Modesto, CA

#184720 Mar 26, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I don't belong to any organization that has hatred for gay people. I am not Mormon. I have never seen a history book list names of people that were not for the civil rights of blacks other then a few groups like the kkk. I really could care less on the gay marriage issue, it won't affect me. You liberals seem to have fun saying that line of crap about being on the wrong side of history. LOL.
So you don’t belong to or support any church that had support signs for Prop 8 on their lawns.

I suspect eyeglasses need cleaning

But you personally is not the point, I am saying that support for Prop 8 and other such hateful and discriminatory measures are broadly supported by religious organizations with narrow vision.

History will not look on them kindly

They are already bleeding followers, this really isn’t the time to get this short sighted. If the current trend continues, that churches are basically political organizations, they will continue to recede.

I know people who get phone calls from their churches on election day telling them who to vote for and which way to vote on propositions…. This does not bode well for the future of religion in America
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184721 Mar 26, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Did Lincoln say repeatedly the war was not being fought over slavery? yes or no. Do you think after the Civil war blacks and whites were treated equal?
There is the issue with the 13th amendment, on January 11, 1864 the 13th amendment(which would effectively ban slavery) was proposed, in April, 1864 the bill was rejected(that's right REJECTED), so here is the problem, the Union(which apparently according to some people was fighting to end slavery) actually voted down the 1st anti-slavery amendment, and it wasn't until February 1, 1865 when they voted on it again(and this time it passed)
So if they were in fact fighting over slavery, why would they vote down the Amendment that personified their reason for fighting? it was because they weren't fighting over slavery.
Saying Slavery is the cause the civil war is an Oversimplification, basically people try to simplify the causes of the war down to 1 issue, which causes people to ignore all of the other issues, such as State authority over Federal authority(or in other words, States Rights)
While Slavery was an issue during the War, historically speaking, it was one of literally dozens(if not hundreds) of causes for the war. remember that at that time, everyone volunteered to go to war, which meant that all 3+Million people had their own individual reasons to fight, and yes some on both sides did fight for slavery, but some fought solely for States Rights as well
Your ignorance is amazing

For Lincoln personally it wasn’t, for Lincoln it was for preserving the union, and why was the union split up? Slavery and the continuation of slavery, the war was fought because the south seceded, and why did they secede?

It doesn’t matter which way you look at it, every cause, every reason was tied to slavery

You need to go back to the 5th grade and start over.

I didn’t say that the war was to "free the slaves", I said the institution of slavery and the fear of that institution ending was at the bottom of every reason for the civil war.

If you don’t know that… it is time you go back to elementary school
oakland safe from demons

Sunnyvale, CA

#184722 Mar 26, 2013
please warn people all bible readers that satans angels are in human form makeing a last stand before they go into the fire........please warn other people and tell neighbors the end is here ...even if you dont believe during the end times the karma will make you sick

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#184723 Mar 26, 2013
Big D wrote:
# 4 Broad ruling affecting the entire US ( this is nearly as unlikely as #1 )
What do you mean unlikely? Last time I checked there was something called the 14th amendment on the USA! Why the hell should I be denied equal marriage rights because I live in Pennsylvania? You know the Supreme Court ruled in 1967 that STATE bans on interracial marriage was unconstitutional. Marriage is a fundamental right!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#184724 Mar 26, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
So you don’t belong to or support any church that had support signs for Prop 8 on their lawns.
I suspect eyeglasses need cleaning
But you personally is not the point, I am saying that support for Prop 8 and other such hateful and discriminatory measures are broadly supported by religious organizations with narrow vision.
History will not look on them kindly
They are already bleeding followers, this really isn’t the time to get this short sighted. If the current trend continues, that churches are basically political organizations, they will continue to recede.
I know people who get phone calls from their churches on election day telling them who to vote for and which way to vote on propositions…. This does not bode well for the future of religion in America
Not every Church is westboro. lol....I get phone calls from a lot of organizations, big deal?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#184725 Mar 26, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ignorance is amazing
For Lincoln personally it wasn’t, for Lincoln it was for preserving the union, and why was the union split up? Slavery and the continuation of slavery, the war was fought because the south seceded, and why did they secede?
It doesn’t matter which way you look at it, every cause, every reason was tied to slavery
You need to go back to the 5th grade and start over.
I didn’t say that the war was to "free the slaves", I said the institution of slavery and the fear of that institution ending was at the bottom of every reason for the civil war.
If you don’t know that… it is time you go back to elementary school
It wasn't 1 issue: Your ignorance is amazing You need to go back to the 5th grade and start over. All the men fighting were not fighting over freeing John Brown.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#184726 Mar 26, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
A “Lost Cause” supporter LOL
I didn’t know there were any left alive
The "Lost Cause" was an effort by the south to re-write history, and what the war was actually about, and to vilify and make heroic certain figures.
If you actually knew anything... anything at all about American history, you would know that every cause of the war was linked to slavery.
Economically, politically, in every sense and every cause, slavery was at the bottom of it.
They withdrew from the union because of the fact that with Lincoln as president they would not be able to maintain an equal number of slave states to non-slave states, which would eventually be the end of slavery, so they succeeded from the union
Here you go, this is elementary schools stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_A...
LOL

There's plenty of them here in TX. idiotic, but, they exist. none of the even recall what they learned in american history in high school - or they choose to ignore it.

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#184727 Mar 26, 2013
* Nazi Germany and Japan were defeated in 1945.
* Bans on interracial marriages in Southern states was brought down in 1967.
* The apartheid regime was brought down in 1994.
* And bans on gay marriage was brought down in 2013.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184728 Mar 26, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>It wasn't 1 issue: Your ignorance is amazing You need to go back to the 5th grade and start over. All the men fighting were not fighting over freeing John Brown.
Lying won’t help you, I didn’t say it was one issue, I said every major issue, every cause of the secession ( quite a number of them ) was tied to the institution of slavery and the continuation of that institution.

That is a fact
Anonymous

Vallejo, CA

#184729 Mar 26, 2013
SCALIA: "Remember, when the framers wrote the Constitution, there were no gays in America. They didn't come here until the nineteen-sixties."

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#184730 Mar 26, 2013
Has anyone heard from Kimare this afternoon? Was he called before the Supreme Court to offer his "brilliant" comments about male anal sex, cross-cultural constraint crapola and his deep understanding of "epigentics mistake"?

Gosh, having read the arguments presented and questions asked by the justices and I don't believe any of these notions were raised by either side.

LOSER!!!

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#184731 Mar 26, 2013
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/18/worlds-ol...
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
"Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Stephen G. Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg pounded Cooper for linking marriage to child-bearing, with Kagan asking if states could also prohibit couples over age 55 from getting married. Cooper responded that even in that case, at least one member of the marriage would likely still be fertile, a suggestion that drew laughter from the courtroom."
A 55 year healthy male, marries a 40 healthy female. What are the odds the male can still father children? Hmmmmmm....

Men, if you’re searching for the key to lifelong virility, look no further than the nearest grocery store. Specifically, stock up on vegetables, milk, ghee, almonds and chapatis, an Indian flatbread.

That’s what a 96-year-old Indian man, whose 52-year-old wife gave birth to a healthy boy on Oct. 5, attributes his vitality to, the Times of India reports. Ramajit Raghav, who lives about 30 miles (50 km) northwest of Delhi in the district of Haryana, claims he is the oldest man in the world to father a child — breaking a record he set in November 2010, when his first son, Vikramjeet, was born. ABC News was unable to confirm Raghav’s age, but the Times of India reports that Haryana government’s social-welfare department lists his age as 96.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184732 Mar 26, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
SCALIA: "Remember, when the framers wrote the Constitution, there were no gays in America. They didn't come here until the nineteen-sixties."
He could not possibly be that uneducated, did that idiot really say that?
Clayton Colwell

Omaha, NE

#184733 Mar 26, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
SCALIA: "Remember, when the framers wrote the Constitution, there were no gays in America. They didn't come here until the nineteen-sixties."
Well, no. This came from a satirical article -- Scalia never said this.

There are plenty of things Scalia's actually said that one can use to bludgeon him over the head with -- keep the moral high ground and don't rely on fiction.

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