Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Republicans’ self-analysis: The party of ‘stuffy old men.'
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Nuggin wrote:
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We are not limited to those beliefs held by the founding fathers.
Our freedom of the press is not limited to only ink presses, but has been extended to include the internet.
Freedom expands.
In the history of this country there has been one amendment which sought to curtail freedom. It is also the only amendment we've had to repeal.
Gay marriage is a done deal. Conservatives lost.
Nuggin.

Yes. Your expressed view runs parallel to Christian belief. Those views hold that God created the world perfect, but because man transgressed his law, sin was allowed to creep in. It has been downhill ever since. Can we single out Republicans for imposing their infamous 14th Amendment which overturned the Constitution - thereby allowing tyranny to reign in the land, when the nature of the "anti-White" Republicans only embody the fallen condition of man?

According to the historical record:

" And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." (Genesis 1:31)

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels," (Revelation 12:7)

"And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven." (Revelation 12:8)

"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." (Revelation 12:9)

"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" (Genesis 3:1)

"And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:" (Genesis 3:2)

"But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." (Genesis 3:3)

" And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:" (Genesis 3:4)

"For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:5)

"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." (Genesis 3:6)

"And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons." (Genesis 3:7)

"And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." (Genesis 3:13)

"Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken." (Genesis 3:23)

"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." (Genesis 2:23)

"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (Genesis 2:24)

"If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:" (James 2:8)

"But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors." (James 2:9)

"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." (James 2:10)

Incidentally, Nuggin. The Defense of marriage Act is an Act of the Congress. It is not an amendment to the Constitution.

Ronald
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Nuggin.
Yes. Your expressed view runs parallel to Christian belief. Those views hold that God created the world perfect, but because man transgressed his law, sin was allowed to creep in. It has been downhill ever since. Can we single out Republicans for imposing their infamous 14th Amendment which overturned the Constitution - thereby allowing tyranny to reign in the land, when the nature of the "anti-White" Republicans only embody the fallen condition of man?
According to the historical record:
" And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." (Genesis 1:31)
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels," (Revelation 12:7)
"And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven." (Revelation 12:8)
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." (Revelation 12:9)
"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" (Genesis 3:1)
"And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:" (Genesis 3:2)
"But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." (Genesis 3:3)
" And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:" (Genesis 3:4)
"For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:5)
"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." (Genesis 3:6)
"And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons." (Genesis 3:7)
"And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." (Genesis 3:13)
"Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken." (Genesis 3:23)
"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." (Genesis 2:23)
"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (Genesis 2:24)
"If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:" (James 2:8)
"But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors." (James 2:9)
"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." (James 2:10)
Incidentally, Nuggin. The Defense of marriage Act is an Act of the Congress. It is not an amendment to the Constitution.
Ronald
and those rules apply to those that choose to follow your religion... and no one else.
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There really tryinghard to shut down the most interesting thing in the news right now, crooked Republican.
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Big D wrote:
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and those rules apply to those that choose to follow your religion... and no one else.
Big D, how's it going these days?

I see you're still up here, making excellent points and making complete sense. Good for you! You certainly have more patiene than I.

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GoingGoing wrote:
Current U.S. Census data shows that 1,135 of the nation's 3,143 counties are now experiencing "natural decrease," where deaths exceed births.

That's up from roughly 880 U.S. counties, or 1 in 4, since 2009.

This data trend is already apparent in Japan and many European nations.

Now this natural decrease is evident in large swaths of the U.S., much of it in rural areas or sections of the USA.
Correct!

But Muslims are making up the difference!

We should have ZERO Muslim immigration, not a continued open door to potential enemies.

But as a recent Pew study showed, more Muslims is what we are getting. A disturbing major point is that the world’s Muslim population will grow at double the rate of non-Muslims over the next 20 years. Demography is merciless, and history has shown that the higher the proportion of Muslims in a country, the worse the social conflict.

The main page for the Pew report is The Future of the Global Muslim Population, Projections for 2010-2030.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Brian_G wrote:
Another fair-weather friend:
The question of marriage is one that historically has been left to the states....
I believe gay and lesbian couples should have the same rights and responsibilities as all Americans and that civil unions are the best way to achieve this goal...
Hillary Clinton
http://www.politico.com/pdf/PPM42_benhrc.pdf
m Oh yeah, and she's asking for your vote also when she runs for president.Promises promises.
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Big D, how's it going these days?
I see you're still up here, making excellent points and making complete sense. Good for you! You certainly have more patiene than I.
It is funny you say that, because I am not known for patience.

Maybe it is just that I get a lot of enjoyment watching the extreme religious right wriggle in their own contradictions.

They have become the center of hate, the center of intolerance, the center of bigotry, everything that they used to oppose when I was younger. The world has grown, and they are shrinking, but they won’t go quietly, and the louder they shout, the more obvious their shortcomings are.
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Big D wrote:
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and those rules apply to those that choose to follow your religion... and no one else.
Big D.

Exactly. It is always darkest before the dawn. According to the historical record:

"Remember this, and shew yourselves men: bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors." (Isaiah 46:8)

"Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me," (Isaiah 46:9)

"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:" (Isaiah 46:10)

"Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.(Revelation 12:12)

"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child." (Revelation 12:13)

"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Revelation 12:17)

"Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake." (Matthew 24:9)

"And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another." (Matthew 24:10)

"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." (Matthew 24:11)

"And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." (Matthew 24:12)

"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." (Matthew 24:13)

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Ronald wrote:
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Big D.
Exactly. It is always darkest before the dawn. According to the historical record:
"Remember this, and shew yourselves men: bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors." (Isaiah 46:8)
"Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me," (Isaiah 46:9)
"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:" (Isaiah 46:10)
"Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.(Revelation 12:12)
"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child." (Revelation 12:13)
"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Revelation 12:17)
"Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake." (Matthew 24:9)
"And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another." (Matthew 24:10)
"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." (Matthew 24:11)
"And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." (Matthew 24:12)
"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." (Matthew 24:13)
Ronald
You can stop quoting your bible, I have read it, and the Koran, and parts of the Talmud, and much of the Bagividad Ggita and several other religious works

I view all of them about the same, right along with worshipers of a volcano and natives dancing naked around a fire.

The darkness is indeed passing the religious bigotry of the middle ages is finally being swept aside, it is long past time that man put aside his reliance on religion.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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Big D wrote:
The argument in the country is starting to change, anyone notice.
Now that 11 states and one district recognize SSM, the argument is now, why are same sex couples treated differently in one state than another, isn’t freedom for all Americans?
Perfect :)
Or just because a few states have redefined marriage in their states, why should they have to as well, when the voters of the latter states said no?
That is now what businesses are asking the federal government, they are saying it is a business imperative that they be able to attract and move the best people for the job from state to state regardless of their orientation, that SSM needs to be recognized nationally.


Uh huh....so they can't get the best people without nationwide SSM? Sigh.....
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Big D wrote:
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It is funny you say that, because I am not known for patience.
Maybe it is just that I get a lot of enjoyment watching the extreme religious right wriggle in their own contradictions.
They have become the center of hate, the center of intolerance, the center of bigotry, everything that they used to oppose when I was younger. The world has grown, and they are shrinking, but they won’t go quietly, and the louder they shout, the more obvious their shortcomings are.
considering the GOP just had their big pow-wow and discussed their relevancy, or ability to attract votes, maybe they're starting to get some sort of a message drilled into their noggins.

it is fun watching the flailing "butbutbut" responses that usually don't really address the points made.

years ago, i voted republican. i just can't do it anymore. after the 80s and listening to people in my area of the country when they spoke of "those people" in the ways that they did conflicted with what i was taught at home and at church on how to treat those less fortunate than myself. and that was just for starters.

keep up the good work, big d. maybe the people you're addressing directly don't get the thoughts you're conveying, or the facts you're conveying, but maybe the lurkers or those that are just skimming through here are getting something about what you're talking about in your posts. that's the only thing that i can keep in mind when i respond to the likes of brian_g (now for going on about 3 yrs or so). that guy is stuck on a record and repeats himself in cycles without actually addressng anything that's asked or stated. he just keeps plopping in those bumpersticker comments that don't really do anything except make himself feel good.

anyway, i just popped into this thread for a quick look to see if anything had changed & i see nothing has. still folks trying to derail the conversation and divert it into something about polygamy or their religious take on what the laws should be.

good luck, big d. i do admire your clarity of thought and your manner of expressing your thoughts.
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Big D wrote:
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You can stop quoting your bible, I have read it, and the Koran, and parts of the Talmud, and much of the Bagividad Ggita and several other religious works
I view all of them about the same, right along with worshipers of a volcano and natives dancing naked around a fire.
The darkness is indeed passing the religious bigotry of the middle ages is finally being swept aside, it is long past time that man put aside his reliance on religion.
Big D.

Yes. The Bible might as well have been addressing the issue of today's multicultural diversityist when God inspired to be written:

"Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts." (Isaiah 28:9)

"For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" (Isaiah 28:10)

"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come." (2 Timothy 3:1)

"Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." (2 Timothy 3:7)

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Big D.
Yes. The Bible might as well have been addressing the issue of today's
We're not a theocracy, stud. We're a democratic republic.
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All those ForgRats from teh RNC, GOP, Republican and Tea Party fanggers.

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heartandmind wrote:
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considering the GOP just had their big pow-wow and discussed their relevancy, or ability to attract votes, maybe they're starting to get some sort of a message drilled into their noggins.
it is fun watching the flailing "butbutbut" responses that usually don't really address the points made.
years ago, i voted republican. i just can't do it anymore. after the 80s and listening to people in my area of the country when they spoke of "those people" in the ways that they did conflicted with what i was taught at home and at church on how to treat those less fortunate than myself. and that was just for starters.
keep up the good work, big d. maybe the people you're addressing directly don't get the thoughts you're conveying, or the facts you're conveying, but maybe the lurkers or those that are just skimming through here are getting something about what you're talking about in your posts. that's the only thing that i can keep in mind when i respond to the likes of brian_g (now for going on about 3 yrs or so). that guy is stuck on a record and repeats himself in cycles without actually addressng anything that's asked or stated. he just keeps plopping in those bumpersticker comments that don't really do anything except make himself feel good.
anyway, i just popped into this thread for a quick look to see if anything had changed & i see nothing has. still folks trying to derail the conversation and divert it into something about polygamy or their religious take on what the laws should be.
good luck, big d. i do admire your clarity of thought and your manner of expressing your thoughts.
Big D isn't always clear either in thought or expression. Brian G. brings up aspects that others who support SSM simply don't like. Its simply two different ways of looking at the issue. One side says "husband and wife" to the exclusion of all others, the other side says "spouses for life" regardless of gender composition, and exclusivity.
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Just pack it in and eat on another pile of rat dropings.

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Apollo11911 wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Ronnie, the laws in this nation are not based on your book of 10,000 lies.
From the mouth of "I am a God". Nice.
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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Big D isn't always clear either in thought or expression. Brian G. brings up aspects that others who support SSM simply don't like. Its simply two different ways of looking at the issue. One side says "husband and wife" to the exclusion of all others, the other side says "spouses for life" regardless of gender composition, and exclusivity.
You don’t comprehend it, but other people do.

In fact the majority of Americans do
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Apollo11911 wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Ronnie, the laws in this nation are not based on your book of 10,000 lies.
Yes, in fact the father of the American revolution actually wrote it in a signed government document when he became president that we were in no way founded upon the Christian religion.

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