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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201887 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182570 Mar 4, 2013
Randy-Rock-Hudson wrote:
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LOL From where? Mackie-Brown University, or ITT Tech?
...and how many degrees do you have?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182571 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Yes. You do realize same sex marriage had it's detractors just like you describe are against poly marriage?
And you do realize public support was not very common in the early days of SSM just a few short years ago?
You do realize how fast public support can come by eliminating ignorance and prejudice with education?
Detractors yes, but no on “the same as I describe” people are seeing polygamy, as no criminal I have seen has ever used same sex marriages specifically as an excuse, that gives them the "right" to commit such a crime.

I do realize how fast public support can come, I also realize it won’t come at all unless the people in the forefront of this issue are not criminals and welfare cheats as they currently in the public eye, seem to be.

You need more positive role models
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182572 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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What is it going to take to get you idiots to stop believing the bullshit put out by FOX News?
That is refered to as FAUX News

It fits
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182573 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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What is it going to take to get you idiots to stop believing the bullshit put out by FOX News?
Woops! Forgot that everything FOX reports is a lie in liberal la la land! Sorry!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22643...
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182574 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
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That is refered to as FAUX News
It fits
Actually, I usually call it FUX News.

You would think after what happened in November, folks would quit FUX News, but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182575 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Detractors yes, but no on “the same as I describe” people are seeing polygamy, as no criminal I have seen has ever used same sex marriages specifically as an excuse, that gives them the "right" to commit such a crime.
I do realize how fast public support can come, I also realize it won’t come at all unless the people in the forefront of this issue are not criminals and welfare cheats as they currently in the public eye, seem to be.
You need more positive role models
Ugh. Again I am allowed to talk of polygamy in the abstract. It's in the TOS of this DISCUSSION forum.

Your repeated arguments that poly has a bad image ARE NOTED REPEATEDLY. They are NOT reasons to deny equality.

You need an argument.

P.S. SSM had a very bad image too. Marrying trees and goats and such. You still use it.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182576 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
That is refered to as FAUX News
It fits
http://now.msn.com/msnbc-more-biased-than-fox...
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182577 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182578 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Woops! Forgot that everything FOX reports is a lie in liberal la la land! Sorry!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22643...
http://foxnewslies.net/

But this is even better: http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2011/03/02/fox-...

Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182579 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Ugh. Again I am allowed to talk of polygamy in the abstract. It's in the TOS of this DISCUSSION forum.
Your repeated arguments that poly has a bad image ARE NOTED REPEATEDLY. They are NOT reasons to deny equality.
You need an argument.
P.S. SSM had a very bad image too. Marrying trees and goats and such. You still use it.
The topic of this form is specifically the judge overturning Prop 8 which had nothing whatsoever to do with polygamy which was illegal before and will continue to be illegal after it is overturned, don’t play stay on topic with me kiddo, I have been on topic, you are the one that keeps twisting Prop 8 to be about something it is not about.

You note my comments about image, and forget them as if that issue does not exist, and then I remind you again.

SSM did not have a bad image problem, homosexuality did, but homosexual crimes were not blamed by the perpetrators specifically with rights under Same Sex Marriage.

NOT true about polygamy, criminals HAVE and STILL use polygamy as an excuse to perpetrate their crimes, and those criminals are what the majority of people see as the forefront of polygamy.

Until that is addressed, there will be little public support for polygamy, I am not saying it is right, I am saying it is true.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182580 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, I usually call it FUX News.
You would think after what happened in November, folks would quit FUX News, but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
http://now.msn.com/msnbc-more-biased-than-fox...
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182581 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
P.S. SSM had a very bad image too. Marrying trees and goats and such. You still use it.
Yes.... we all know marrying trees and goats falls under same sex marriage. You are a complete dullard.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182582 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182583 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
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The topic of this form is specifically the judge overturning Prop 8 which had nothing whatsoever to do with polygamy which was illegal before and will continue to be illegal after it is overturned, don’t play stay on topic with me kiddo, I have been on topic, you are the one that keeps twisting Prop 8 to be about something it is not about.
You note my comments about image, and forget them as if that issue does not exist, and then I remind you again.
SSM did not have a bad image problem, homosexuality did, but homosexual crimes were not blamed by the perpetrators specifically with rights under Same Sex Marriage.
NOT true about polygamy, criminals HAVE and STILL use polygamy as an excuse to perpetrate their crimes, and those criminals are what the majority of people see as the forefront of polygamy.
Until that is addressed, there will be little public support for polygamy, I am not saying it is right, I am saying it is true.
UGH! So he repeats it again.

If the other laws against polygamy were repealed except PROPOSITION EIGHT, PROPOSITION EIGHT will be the only thing making polygamy illegal in California. And there's your topic.

Your "criminals use polygamy to perpetuate their crimes" schtick is utter bullsh!t. Don't you realize how stupid an argument that is? There are perfectly good laws against all the crimes your ignorance conjures up.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182584 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Yes.... we all know marrying trees and goats falls under same sex marriage. You are a complete dullard.
That's the argument your sidekick Big D uses against poly marriage.
It's not my dumb argument. It's his.

I'm just pointing out it was stupid when used against same sex marriage, and it's EQUALLY stupid when used against poly marriage.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182585 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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http://foxnewslies.net/
But this is even better: http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2011/03/02/fox-...
Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts
Straight from the horse's mouth, X Box.

http://now.msn.com/msnbc-more-biased-than-fox...
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182586 Mar 4, 2013
So is the present argument against polygamy that FOX news is biased?

Big D? X-Box?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182587 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
UGH! So he repeats it again.
If the other laws against polygamy were repealed except PROPOSITION EIGHT, PROPOSITION EIGHT will be the only thing making polygamy illegal in California. And there's your topic.
Your "criminals use polygamy to perpetuate their crimes" schtick is utter bullsh!t. Don't you realize how stupid an argument that is? There are perfectly good laws against all the crimes your ignorance conjures up.
Yes If polygamy was legal before Pro 8 that would be true, but it was not

If Same Sex marriage was illegal before Prop 8 it would also be different, but it was not

If wishes were fishes we would all cast nets, but they arent

There is a whole lot of IF coming out of your posts.

Are you saying that you are NOT aware that the criminals are using their religious Polygamy as the reason, the "right" to marry underage girls in series to older men?

if you are unaware of that ( think it is bull ) then you are far less educated about the current status of polygamy than everyone else here is.

Tzunammi

Since: Nov 11

Fukushima

#182588 Mar 4, 2013
Do you haters realize that gays are dying from abuse??? Kids, adults too.

End the hate, practice tolerance. Too many innocent lives are being harmed.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182589 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
So is the present argument against polygamy that FOX news is biased?
Big D? X-Box?
You need to learn to read, I have never made an argument against polygamy, just trying ( unsuccessfully ) to make you educated about the obstacles in front of it, and that Prop 8 will not change any current polygamy laws.

You seem to have a vested interest in not comprehending anything anyone says.

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