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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#182058 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Let's substitutue polygamy for sequestering and see if the GOP will buy it.
ROFL!!

Actually quite a number of the republican leadership is jumping onto the issue opposed to Prop 8.

A few are starting to realize that party HAS to change if they ever want to win an election to high office ever again.

You cant divide yourself into a majority.

There isn’t much talk any more about cleansing out RINO’s, and more talk about how they can include more people. That is why the Tea Party is losing influence fast.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182059 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Clint was first, like a true conservative.
Yes....He was married twice and has seven children by five different women.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182060 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Yes....He was married twice and has seven children by five different women.
Why is that important?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182061 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Tell that to the California Supreme Court.
Of course, it is SO obvious that they don't know what they're talking about and should ask YOU for legal advice..... yeah, right.
He is going to be one sad puppy in June when 8 gets overturned and nothing is mentioned about Polygamy.

But there will likely be a lot of sad puppies, the way things are going, I am starting to think it is going to be a broad ruling, and the end of DOMA
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182062 Mar 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
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He is going to be one sad puppy in June when 8 gets overturned and nothing is mentioned about Polygamy.
But there will likely be a lot of sad puppies, the way things are going, I am starting to think it is going to be a broad ruling, and the end of DOMA
I won't be sad, I support marriage equality and you know it, liar Big D.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182063 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Let's substitutue polygamy for sequestering and see if the GOP will buy it.
I am a life long conservative democrat. A registered Democrat since 1969. I support marriage for every adult who wants a family and you do not.

Marriage is good for society, even marriages bigots don't approve of.

And besides, seeing a happy family makes me happy, Be they OSM, SSM or poly marriage.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182064 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I won't be sad, I support marriage equality and you know it, liar Big D.
No I don’t know it.

I hear you say it, and I watch you attack every supporter of Same Sex marriage. I have watched you go from polygamy to incest the same stupid and childish tactics that the far religious right uses against Same Sex marriage.

I am not about to take you at your word
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182065 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Tell that to the California Supreme Court.
Of course, it is SO obvious that they don't know what they're talking about and should ask YOU for legal advice..... yeah, right.
Insisting "marriage is a man and a woman" doesn't restrict poly as much as it does same sex is stupid and illogical.

What don't you understand about "a man and a woman"? If they didn't have poly also in mind they would have said "men and women".

Duh!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#182066 Mar 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Palin/Eastwood 2016
( oh please , oh please ):D
Hillary/HOlder. 2016
( oh please , oh please ):D
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182067 Mar 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
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No I don’t know it.
I hear you say it, and I watch you attack every supporter of Same Sex marriage. I have watched you go from polygamy to incest the same stupid and childish tactics that the far religious right uses against Same Sex marriage.
I am not about to take you at your word
You're the liar here not I. I wouldn't take your word on anything.

You suspect I am lying about supporting SSM. Because you are paranoid and think it is some sort of trick against SSM. You are wrong.

Your only argument against mine is your paranoia. That's on you. Deal with it. Or get a cogent argument against polygamy and incest marriage. The "you're lying" is SO OLD and STUPID, an not an argument at all.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182068 Mar 1, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Hillary/HOlder. 2016
( oh please , oh please ):D
YUK!YUK!YUK! Giggling Joe Biden!

Jazybird58

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#182069 Mar 1, 2013
Future Battle: Slippery Slope To Polygamy?

Some legal analysts feel that judicial action to legalize same-sex marriage will create precedent that could lead to the overturn of polygamy laws. Justice Scalia once stated, in a dissent to a case striking down a sodomy law, that following that decision all morals legislation was vulnerable to attack: first homosexual sex, then “fornication, bigamy, adultery, adult incest, bestiality, and obscenity.”

However, due to the way the California Supreme Court has classified sexual orientation, there is a significant difference between the same-sex marriage and polygamy. In deciding In Re Marriage Cases, the court declared that laws based on sexual orientation would receive “strict scrutiny” review, meaning that such laws must be narrowly tailored to achieve a compelling government interest. As polygamists are not a protected class, like homosexuals, they do not enjoy that level of review. Instead, the government may limit polygamy by proving simply that such laws are a rational method of achieving a legitimate government interest. The method need not be the least restrictive method of achieving that interest. The government interests in prohibiting polygamy that are often asserted are: the danger of statutory rape associated with polygamy; the danger of incest; and the subjugation and abuse of women in such relationships. These are legitimate interests and a ban on polygamy is generally seen as a rational means of accomplishing those ends.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182070 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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You're the liar here not I. I wouldn't take your word on anything.
You suspect I am lying about supporting SSM. Because you are paranoid and think it is some sort of trick against SSM. You are wrong.
Your only argument against mine is your paranoia. That's on you. Deal with it. Or get a cogent argument against polygamy and incest marriage. The "you're lying" is SO OLD and STUPID, an not an argument at all.
You it is your actions, which is why you have been called on it so many times by so many different people

Jazybird58

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#182071 Mar 1, 2013
I dunno Frank, it don't look so good
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182072 Mar 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Why is that important?
It establishes his conservative credentials.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182073 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Insisting "marriage is a man and a woman" doesn't restrict poly as much as it does same sex is stupid and illogical.
What don't you understand about "a man and a woman"? If they didn't have poly also in mind they would have said "men and women".
Duh!
They said this instead: From the California Supreme Court's May 15 ruling:


We emphasize that our conclusion that the constitutional right to marry properly must be interpreted to apply to gay individuals and gay couples does not mean that this constitutional right similarly must be understood to extend to polygamous or incestuous relationships.

Clear enough?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182074 Mar 1, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
I dunno Frank, it don't look so good
That's what the fools said about SSM not long ago, Just a few short years.

Are you a fool too?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182075 Mar 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
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You it is your actions, which is why you have been called on it so many times by so many different people
I attack hypocrisy. Most opponents of SSM on this thread are much less hypocritical than supporters of SSM on this thread. Except me!

I support true marriage equality, You do not.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182076 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>They said this instead: From the California Supreme Court's May 15 ruling:
We emphasize that our conclusion that the constitutional right to marry properly must be interpreted to apply to gay individuals and gay couples does not mean that this constitutional right similarly must be understood to extend to polygamous or incestuous relationships.
Clear enough?
Sure. They're saying it's not intended to legalize poly, which is already illegal.

They said we'll let SSM slip by but no way poly! They liked the "A" part of "a man and a woman" but not the gender part. Just like you!

I don't think either part is fair.

Jazybird58

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#182077 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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That's what the fools said about SSM not long ago, Just a few short years.
Are you a fool too?
Did you read the post about the Cali. Supreme court and polygamy????? Frank, read it

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