Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Read more: www.cnn.com 201,862

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Impeachment Cobblers

Capitol Heights, MD

#171724 Dec 20, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Your reasons for keeping marriage male/female are valid even if they aren't verbose. You don't have to engage every argument, especially if those arguments are made by rude or obnoxious people.
There is no gender equality right in the Constitution; marriage has always been male/female.
You don't give reasons, Brian, you just give slogans. There is no cause and effect shown, no supporting evidence, just some unfounded commentary. Little more than opinion. If I say the sky is green I really ought to provide some evidence. I can even give you reasons for it appearing blue (or gray, or red, depending upon time of day and weather conditions). OTOH, you simply make some claims and fail to back them up with substance. That is why you get insulted. You make idiotic comments, and get called an idiot.

You make the comment that people are obnoxious. Well Brian, you're bumper sticker slogans are quite tedious. Which is obnoxious to some.

Carry on by all means, it seems to be the limit of your capability.
Impeachment Cobblers

Capitol Heights, MD

#171725 Dec 20, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>

Gay marriage doesn't harm male/female marriage...
Brian, this is exactly what I'm talking about. It is repeatedly claimed that permitting same sex marriage will harm marriage. But when asked to give supporting evidence, all we get is the chirping of crickets. Nada, zip, zilch. You cannot show any harm, claiming there will be is not evidence.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#171726 Dec 20, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose's Law: Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?"
<quoted text>
That's because you never answer them jackass!

Want them to stop? TRY ANSWERING THEM!

What a dope!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#171728 Dec 20, 2012
Impeachment Cobblers wrote:
<quoted text>
Brian, this is exactly what I'm talking about. It is repeatedly claimed that permitting same sex marriage will harm marriage. But when asked to give supporting evidence, all we get is the chirping of crickets. Nada, zip, zilch. You cannot show any harm, claiming there will be is not evidence.
The slippery slope. It has validity. If we grant same sex marriage what will we say when other groups demand their reform of marriage be given equal consideration? Polygamy, incest marriage etc. If marriage means everything, it means nothing.

In practice I don't see it as an obstacle to SSM because the numbers are insignificant. But to dismiss it as invalid is dishonest.

http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/marriage.pdf
SSOOTP

West Covina, CA

#171730 Dec 20, 2012
Same Stupid Out Of Town Poster.

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#171731 Dec 20, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
Mike's Law: Morons who dream up "Laws" and name them after themselves are silly.
You bet sugar nipples. One day soon you might not be stuck on stupid.

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#171733 Dec 20, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
So, basically, what you are saying, is that you don't want to read a rational argument against SSM, um OK, don't read it. But it makes perfect sense, and you know it. So, snore away, while the adults deal with it.
Oh snap, we all have been waiting for a rational argument against SSM, when will you be posting one?
SSOOTP

West Covina, CA

#171734 Dec 20, 2012
Does it still come in a can?
The Flag is

West Covina, CA

#171737 Dec 20, 2012
Once again the idiot Tea Party is about to crash the system, it's is all to apparent that the Tea Party needs to be outlawed and declared a danger to all american citizen's.

It;s another big defeat for John Boehner, Republicans party because they have nixed his fiscal "Plan B," because they didn't have the votes to pass it.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#171738 Dec 20, 2012
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>You bet sugar nipples. One day soon you might not be stuck on stupid.
What a dumb post!

You're funny Fruitloops. What's with the tin foil hat?
Floride

West Covina, CA

#171743 Dec 20, 2012
It's another big defeat for John Boehner, Republicans party. The Macco Nuts in the Tea Party are as dum as they look. Right Judy Nelson of the glendora city council.

Your all a bunch of terrible gamblers, just look at the fool calling himself Tim Donnelly.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#171746 Dec 20, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Most "pole smokers" are straight women, but I wouldn't expect you'd have any experience in that area.
<quoted text>
Rose's Law: Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?"
<quoted text>
Sexually insecure?
Most are strait women but the male pole smokers wants the scales tipped. Youve made no point. I hope you dont infect thosr around you with your obviously high level of intelligence.

What about the children? Exactly, that is increasingly.societies attitude.

Thanks for the concern, but im quite secure in my sexuality.

If my comment offended you personally, perhaps you should psycho-analyze yourself, not me.
Bll Grimeson

Oxnard, CA

#171747 Dec 20, 2012
American DC-7C by "Y" of Japan with original box. Same aircraft featured in the Twilight Zone episode "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" starring actor William Shatner.
Chrisnris

Hesperia, CA

#171748 Dec 20, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
You might...
So let me get this straight are you saying that the true definition of marriage is a union that can procreate through sexual intercourse of the person that they are married to? So according to that bs than I guess all those infertile hetrosexual couples are not considered to married either. Now that doesn't seem right. Or what about the couples that get married but choose not to have kids? Is that not considered marriage either? Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the asumption that marriage was a union joined together by love. But I guess I'm just a nieve legally married in this state of california lesbian and a mother of five highly intelligent, well rounded children.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#171750 Dec 21, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
Was one particular jackass named "J-bird56" or some such silly sh!t a while ago used to post dumb stuff just like this jazzybird dope. Thought maybe they're the same.
This one wears a tin foil hat for chrissakes. It doesn't get any better than that.
My guess would be he is the same one

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#171752 Dec 21, 2012
Chrisnris wrote:
<quoted text>
So let me get this straight are you saying that the true definition of marriage is a union that can procreate through sexual intercourse of the person that they are married to? So according to that bs than I guess all those infertile hetrosexual couples are not considered to married either. Now that doesn't seem right. Or what about the couples that get married but choose not to have kids? Is that not considered marriage either? Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the asumption that marriage was a union joined together by love. But I guess I'm just a nieve legally married in this state of california lesbian and a mother of five highly intelligent, well rounded children.
Mating behavior today is the end result of simple genderless life forms evolving into two genders resulting in the ability for those species to survive.

Marriage is simply various customs culture created to support and celebrate the mating behavior union of those two genders. It is a union that hails back to the very roots of evolution, the recreation of a simple single genderless life form.

Duplicate genders cannot in any aspect replicate those basics.

Marriage links the beginning of life to the present. That has always been the case in every single culture. A 'reunion' of genders to 'one.' What has changed? Please, be specific.

Gay couples have never and CAN never replicate that.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

Smile.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#171753 Dec 21, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
You didn't keep your marriage male/female. You got a divorce....
^^^Rose knows this is untrue; I've been married more than 25 years. She tells untruths because the truth isn't on her side.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#171756 Dec 21, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
Like you DISHONESTLY changed your assertion that "Clinton's impeachment failed" to "all the intents and objectives listed in the impeachment failed"?
And then called me a liar to deflect further from your original lost argument.
Nice! Liberal rules.
P.S. Are you ever going to tell us what these "intents and objectives listed in the impeachment" are? I cannot find them.
I have made my automatic reply smaller to annoy others less
Yes he was impeached, partisan vote in the house
Yes it was a failure, partisan vote for acquittal in the senate
Yes the impeachment was a total and absolute failure, it accomplished nothing
Chrisnris

Hesperia, CA

#171757 Dec 21, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Mating behavior today is the end result of simple genderless life forms evolving into two genders resulting in the ability for those species to survive.
Marriage is simply various customs culture created to support and celebrate the mating behavior union of those two genders. It is a union that hails back to the very roots of evolution, the recreation of a simple single genderless life form.
Duplicate genders cannot in any aspect replicate those basics.
Marriage links the beginning of life to the present. That has always been the case in every single culture. A 'reunion' of genders to 'one.' What has changed? Please, be specific.
Gay couples have never and CAN never replicate that.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Smile.
I understand your idea of the evolution into the two genders for survival, on the flip side of that idea don't you think that maybe the world could be evolving again for the purpose of controlling the population? At this point in time I would have to say that most people would agree that our world is over populated.

I believe that everybody is entitled to their own oppinion, but what I just dont get is why and how can my marriage to another woman instead of a man harm hetrosexual married couples.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#171758 Dec 21, 2012
Chrisnris wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand your idea of the evolution into the two genders for survival, on the flip side of that idea don't you think that maybe the world could be evolving again for the purpose of controlling the population? At this point in time I would have to say that most people would agree that our world is over populated.
I believe that everybody is entitled to their own oppinion, but what I just dont get is why and how can my marriage to another woman instead of a man harm hetrosexual married couples.
On the flip side, as there is documented homosexuality in many different animals, I wouldn’t spend too much time on that idea

This is America, you are free, free to love, free to choose, free to be yourself, your marriage to another woman has not or would not hurt my heterosexual marriage in any way at all, I honesty don’t see how it could.

There is a large ( but shrinking ) segment of our population that are busybodies, wanting to tell everyone else how they must live their lives. They claim to be opposed to "big government" but in truth wants a government that gets right into your life telling you how you must live.

Fortunately for you this is a shrinking segment, and support to equality in marriage is increasing dramatically

Please know you have the support of many of us heterosexuals as well.

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