Fire dept. gets 160,000.00 grant

Fire dept. gets 160,000.00 grant

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MrMess

Beckley, WV

#1 Feb 26, 2011
Wonder who will end up with the money,Are any cops on the fire dept.They all ready have a boat,camper and a 4 wheeler. And a latter truck, you know for all our high rise buildings.I know how about a adding machine and some glasses.
Bigballs

Dallas, TX

#2 Feb 26, 2011
First, they don't have a camper. It's a fire safety house to teach kids about getting out of a house that's on fire!! And second, you should keep your comments to yourself until you learn how to spell you stupid fk!!! They have a laDDer truck. Stupid!! You make yourself look more ignorant everytime you post something!! But if you have a problem with the fire department, they meet on Tuesday nights. I'm sure they would LOVE to
hear your complaints. But, as with most puies, you'll hide behind a made up name on your computer and talk shit!!
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Rolo

Oak Hill, WV

#4 Feb 26, 2011
Bigballs wrote:
First, they don't have a camper. It's a fire safety house to teach kids about getting out of a house that's on fire!! And second, you should keep your comments to yourself until you learn how to spell you stupid fk!!! They have a laDDer truck. Stupid!! You make yourself look more ignorant everytime you post something!! But if you have a problem with the fire department, they meet on Tuesday nights. I'm sure they would LOVE to
hear your complaints. But, as with most puies, you'll hide behind a made up name on your computer and talk shit!!
What nerve! Who cares if MrMess can spell or not?? I am much more concerned about this money getting stolen too! Until they make a change at the top, this fire department's reputation will always be blackened!
Busted

Beckley, WV

#5 Feb 26, 2011
LOL ever noticed that the fire dept. guys always feel there a little better than most people.The chief and asst. chief tried to blame someone else besides themselves for not doing their jobs. The 2 chiefs never even got on TV and said hey, I am sorry, instead tried to pin the blame on a guy that wasn't even paid by the city, like the salary the chief and asst. chief get along with there 20 dollars a call whether they actually make the call or not. And they have some nerve talking like that to anyone after we voted in the fire levy which, the levy vote was not legal, they had it in the middle of a declared state of emergency. The deputies couldn't even pick up some of the poll workers because the roads were too slick for their 4 wheel drives.But still the corrupt county clerk still had the election.Something else also, Oak Hill fire dept employees do not pay any pay roll tax on the money they get every month, not a penny,even though it is a vol. dept. if you get paid under state and federal law, taxes have to be taken out. Someone please tell me how thats legal?
Please

Sophia, WV

#6 Feb 26, 2011
MrMess quit trying to change your name to make people think it's other people who feel the way you do. Your a lonely person left to your own misery.
Busted wrote:
LOL ever noticed that the fire dept. guys always feel there a little better than most people.The chief and asst. chief tried to blame someone else besides themselves for not doing their jobs. The 2 chiefs never even got on TV and said hey, I am sorry, instead tried to pin the blame on a guy that wasn't even paid by the city, like the salary the chief and asst. chief get along with there 20 dollars a call whether they actually make the call or not. And they have some nerve talking like that to anyone after we voted in the fire levy which, the levy vote was not legal, they had it in the middle of a declared state of emergency. The deputies couldn't even pick up some of the poll workers because the roads were too slick for their 4 wheel drives.But still the corrupt county clerk still had the election.Something else also, Oak Hill fire dept employees do not pay any pay roll tax on the money they get every month, not a penny,even though it is a vol. dept. if you get paid under state and federal law, taxes have to be taken out. Someone please tell me how thats legal?
preacher

Beckley, WV

#7 Feb 27, 2011
even though MR MESS doesnt always get things right, he is on point!! we did have a state of emergency that day. i remember it clearly,we need another election!
Bigballs

Dallas, TX

#8 Feb 27, 2011
Ok "dude" I'm not on here bashing police, firefighters and everyone else in the city! Takes alot of nerve to talk trash about the people that risk their lives for this town! It shows the mentality of some of you. And "rolo", why should the reputation of the entire fire dept be blackened because of one theif? The chief and asst chief have nothing to do with payroll!! So how is it their fault? I wonder whose fault it is that the girlfriend stole the money from her employer also? And to "busted" and "preacher". Why should anybody but feltner have to apologize? Nobody knew what was happening, and he did it all by his poor little self!! They don't get paid $20 a call either!!!(since you know so much). They do get taxes taken out too!! And both of you need to learn more about the levy. If the levy doesn't pass, your insurance will go up, you will be billed a monthly fire fee.
Rolo

Oak Hill, WV

#9 Feb 27, 2011
The leader, chief, or owner of any business or public entity is always responsible for what happens on their watch.

The fact that no one in a position of authority spoke out about the theft of an enormous amount of tax payer money, smacks of arrogance and an unwillinginess to be a leader when times are bad.

As a member of the public whose money was misappropriated, I would have appreciated an apology and notice of steps to be taken to keep this from happening again.

These "leaders" are not leaders! Until they take SOME responsibility and show a little contrition, the reputation of the fire department will be that of theives and individuals who completely disregard the public they serve.

This is MY opinion and hate all you want, it is how I feel.
MAGPUL

Capon Bridge, WV

#10 Feb 27, 2011
The Citizens of Oak Hill are lucky to have such a well equipped fire department. Why don't people just accept that government money will go just about anywhere and pay for just about anything. What would you do with the money Mrmess? Take it up your nose?
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Busted

Beckley, WV

#12 Feb 27, 2011
First of all, the 2 Chiefs take care of the day to day business of the fire dept. The fire chief is responsible for all the money that the dept. spends, IE there budget, are you telling me that he just lets anyone spend money as they please.If he would have at least once, gone over Feltners paper work this would have never happened except for once.Why do we even have a fire chief if he is not responsible for anything. Why does the city pay he and the asst. chief a monthly salary and whether you know this or not, he is a department head and responsible for EVERYTHING that go's on there. The chief and asst. chief and a couple officers make a little city check also that taxes are taken out of but not your 20 dollars a call fire call money. 5 fire calls at 20 dollars you get 100 dollars, no taxes taken out, I would love to see a few w2 forms from just plain old firemen.Funny I dont see any of the street dept. guys doing the payroll for there dept. WHY DOES A VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT GET PAID ANYWAY? I think since the whole dept. is negligent in taking care of our money the Vol fire dept. should show a little remorse and responsibility for almost half a million dollars of my and other citizens tax payer money and go 5 years and not get paid. Since you guys are such good and great heroes lol, If I were in charge of that money every last penny would be accounted for and watched, not a hater here just tired of a bunch of incompetent arrogant ass holes screwing up my city, you are city employees and should act grateful not hateful.If that were your personal money things would be different, By the way why haven't we seen where ya went after feltners motorcycles or house, ohh wait we all know
Bigballs

Dallas, TX

#13 Feb 27, 2011
"busted", just as I said to MrMess, the fire dept has meetings on Tuesday nights. If you would like to have a conversation with any of them, I'm sure they would be happy to talk with you!! Again, they DO NOT make $20 per call, and yes, they ALL have W2's for every call they made!! Just ask them to show you when you go there Tuesday!! Lmao!!! And they get that money for reimbursement for gas, clothes etc... Do you think the gas to run to the fire dept is free? If you would think for two seconds, if your house was on fire, and a family member were trapped inside, and the firemen go into s burning house and save your loved one, would that be worth $12 to you??
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MAGPUL

Capon Bridge, WV

#15 Feb 27, 2011
dude wrote:
<quoted text>This is why we are in this mess now cause of goverments? Thats why you will see more Anti Goverment Protest, America Is Tired And They Are Waking up To Rise, And If You Think That It Can Not Happen Here Think Again It Already Is..
Well go write your president and tell him to stop wasting your tax dollars. Just dont bitch when half of your town buns down and the old busted fre trucks won't start because you think that they don't need any money.
Rolo

Oak Hill, WV

#16 Feb 27, 2011
MAGPUL wrote:
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Well go write your president and tell him to stop wasting your tax dollars. Just dont bitch when half of your town buns down and the old busted fre trucks won't start because you think that they don't need any money.
The levy was passed in order to finance our fire department. The citizens had the respect for that department to continue financing it. What is upsetting is the lack-of-respect shown by that department to the citizens whose money was stolen while under the care and control of the fire department.

A true leader would stand up and admit mistakes, take ownership for the embezzlement that occured, apologize for their lack of oversight, and give the tax payers concrete steps to be taken to prevent this happening again.

Anyone in a leadership position who is unwilling to do this should be considered unfit to hold this office.
MrMess

Beckley, WV

#17 Feb 27, 2011
I've heard that about the w2 forms before, and it is just as much a lie today as it was yesterday,Funny, I don't remember Feltner taking taxes out of the money,ever! It is always an even dollar amount.Why hasn't the IRS busted feltner and his wife for tax evasion yet? Why has no one even tried to get any of Feltners assets either? Sounds like the whole bunch of ya need to file some papers for back workers comp, fica and state tax and federal tax. Tell ya what if yyour not guilty, print it all in the Tribune, just to show the tax payers where their money has gone to.
MAGPUL

Capon Bridge, WV

#18 Feb 27, 2011
MrMess wrote:
I've heard that about the w2 forms before, and it is just as much a lie today as it was yesterday,Funny, I don't remember Feltner taking taxes out of the money,ever! It is always an even dollar amount.Why hasn't the IRS busted feltner and his wife for tax evasion yet? Why has no one even tried to get any of Feltners assets either? Sounds like the whole bunch of ya need to file some papers for back workers comp, fica and state tax and federal tax. Tell ya what if yyour not guilty, print it all in the Tribune, just to show the tax payers where their money has gone to.
Feltner is in prison on charges of embezzlement. If you know him you would know that also. If you've ever met him the man lived comfortably but not lavishly, I do not believe he took a dime from the FD.
Who cares

Daniels, WV

#19 Feb 27, 2011
I read these topics occasionally. The stupidity and ignorance amazes me. If you want to bash a firefighter show up at the station on any Tuesday night and do it to our face! I believe you won't! I also believe the reason people bash us is because you don't have the balls to do what we do!!!!!!!!!
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MrMess

Beckley, WV

#21 Feb 27, 2011
Who cares wrote:
I read these topics occasionally. The stupidity and ignorance amazes me. If you want to bash a firefighter show up at the station on any Tuesday night and do it to our face! I believe you won't! I also believe the reason people bash us is because you don't have the balls to do what we do!!!!!!!!!
ROFLMAO what do you do that is so important, really,For us that have insurance all you do is make the mess worse.WHY does a volunteer fire department get paid? I mean if your getting paid it isn't a volunteer department. Now since your acting this way without cause, You know all better than everyone, do the right thing, you guys need to answer calls for free to make up the half million dollars you all permitted to be stolen.Something else also, you answer to us the tax payers and we have every right to ask and complain.I would however love to see some or rather all of the w2's printed in the Fayette Tribune. Funny a lot of your names were missing in the Tribune when the Legal ad was last in it. I think maybe I need to write Mr. Rahalls office an email and explain about the lack of taxes being paid on the money the vol. fire dept. gives its volunteers.I bet the charleston Gazzette could do a FOIA and get the public records and see what a nice story they can do about fire departments that do not pay into the tax system.
MrMess

Beckley, WV

#22 Feb 27, 2011
dude wrote:
<quoted text>well your hiding behind a screen name also so whats the differance.
OK you first, whats your name and address?
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MrMess

Beckley, WV

#24 Feb 27, 2011
MAGPUL wrote:
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Feltner is in prison on charges of embezzlement. If you know him you would know that also. If you've ever met him the man lived comfortably but not lavishly, I do not believe he took a dime from the FD.
where do you think the money went then?
Rolo

Oak Hill, WV

#25 Feb 28, 2011
Who cares wrote:
I read these topics occasionally. The stupidity and ignorance amazes me. If you want to bash a firefighter show up at the station on any Tuesday night and do it to our face! I believe you won't! I also believe the reason people bash us is because you don't have the balls to do what we do!!!!!!!!!
You're just a bunch of arrogant pricks! So you put out a fire now and then; doesn't mean you can walk on water.

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