Bill will make pawning stolen items harder for thieves

Mar 22, 2013 Full story: www.register-herald.com 21

Thieves would find it a little harder to fence stolen items at West Virginia pawn shops in a House bill approved Friday.

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Jesse Smith

Summersville, WV

#1 Mar 22, 2013
Good!
eddie

Charleston, WV

#2 Mar 22, 2013
Great , good get the thieves
the problem is

Huntington, WV

#3 Mar 22, 2013
There are certain pawn shops in Charleston that will send someone out to "find" an item if they don't have it and someone wants one. Been told that KV and All-in-one have a habit of doing that.

I know for a fact that KV in KC keeps taking items from a person that stuff he pawns there gets confiscated all the time. After eight years you'd think they'd "red flag" him.
Thankful

Beckley, WV

#4 Mar 23, 2013
I am just thankful for the honest pawn shops in the area. Just like bad, dishonest cops, you will always have a few "bad" pawn shops. However, just like bad cops, not all pawn shops are bad. The reason I am so thankful is that a precious heirloom necklace that belonged to my deceased grandmother was pawned locally and the pawn broker immediately notified the police and it was promptly returned to me. If it had not been for the pawn shop, the necklace would have ended up at one of the out of state gold buyers, melted down for scrap or sold on the street and never recovered. Also, I know how much the small loans help people in real need. The sick, elderly, disabled and unfortunate depend on pawn shops. Pawn shops are not just for theives. If a pawn shop is dishonest yet continues to operate without any problems, then the shop owner obviously has a connection with a bad cop, otherwise he would be arrested and his shop closed down.
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not much change

Beckley, WV

#6 Mar 23, 2013
Actually the new laws don't change much. ALL the pawn shops in Beckley require two forms of ID which include a driver's license or legit photo id. If you will notice, a LOT of cops hang out at Flat Top Arms, so if they were doing wrong I am sure they would have been arrested by now. The new legislation and laws won't change anything with the local pawn shops because they all already follow the guidelines and laws that were recently put into effect. The only pawnshop that has ever been closed down for illegal activity was the one downtown in Beckley and that was over ten years ago. However, the owner got into trouble over bad record keeping, not stolen menchandise. To sum it up, the new laws won't change a darn thing in Raleigh County because the pawn dealers already adhere to the laws.
out of state

Beckley, WV

#7 Mar 23, 2013
Most stolen merchandise is either sold on the street, at flea markets, or goes out of state. A lot of it is sold to the out of state gold buyers. Crooks and theives deal with crooks and theives. Very few are stupid enough to take a stolen item to a pawn shop where they require a valid identification and the police check records daily. DUH
turd ferguson

Alexandria, VA

#8 Mar 23, 2013
Thankful wrote:
I am just thankful for the honest pawn shops in the area. Just like bad, dishonest cops, you will always have a few "bad" pawn shops. However, just like bad cops, not all pawn shops are bad. The reason I am so thankful is that a precious heirloom necklace that belonged to my deceased grandmother was pawned locally and the pawn broker immediately notified the police and it was promptly returned to me. If it had not been for the pawn shop, the necklace would have ended up at one of the out of state gold buyers, melted down for scrap or sold on the street and never recovered. Also, I know how much the small loans help people in real need. The sick, elderly, disabled and unfortunate depend on pawn shops. Pawn shops are not just for theives. If a pawn shop is dishonest yet continues to operate without any problems, then the shop owner obviously has a connection with a bad cop, otherwise he would be arrested and his shop closed down.
Haha. Your such a clown: " If a pawn shop is dishonest yet continues to operate without any problems, then the shop owner obviously has a connection with a bad cop, otherwise he would be arrested and his shop closed down. " you obviously have a distrust of law enforcement with that comment. Let me guess,....thieves come into your house ( probably a trailer ) while your not home, rifle through your worthless junk and actually find something worth taking: maw maws necklace. You come home to find your crap in disarray and the priceless ($30 ) family heirloom missing. You then call the police and John q policeman arrives and takes a report. You are immediately offended he didn't know who took it right away. " well I have a relative that was a cop and I've seen CSI. Why don't you just dust for prints or look for some semen then put it in the national semen database and boom we got him "! You say. The officer informs you " it's not that simple and CSI is just a show and that you currently live in the real world where nobody ransacks a home then splooges on everything ". You huff and puff then the officer leaves. Well in the meantime the burglar pawns your maw maws priceless ($30 ) rusty gold necklace for pennies on the dollar and you happen to come by it one day. You scream " there it is! Maw maws priceless ($30 ) necklace! Why would you not report this to police it's clearly stolen "! The nice man working the counter says " ma'am, only items with serial numbers can be checked for stolen reports because only serialized items can be traced. Now... " before you cut him off and say " you must be an associate of a crooked cop! How dare you accept my maw maws priceless ($30 ) necklace for pawn! Why I bet your even in cahoots with that pig cop that took the report ". Before snatching the necklace and leaving.....is that how it happened?? Pretty sure it is.
Thankful

Beckley, WV

#9 Mar 23, 2013
You are so stupidly wrong. I live at Woodcrest, am gainfully employed and have been all my life. The pawn broker called the police and made them aware that a necklace worth at least $5,000.00 (matching the description) had been pawned. The pawn broker risked losing the money he inadvertently loaned on the necklace and did the right thing. Just because you seem to be stupidly dishonest does not mean everyone is. Your version of what happened shows not only lack of intelligence but lack of judgement. I happen to know several police officers that live in my neighborhood, and all of them vouch that pawn shop owners often assist them in finding stolen property. They assure me that frequent visits and checks are made with pawn shops and the majority of the owners are helpful, honest, and dependable. Why would the police lie about that. I just said only a bad cop would uphold a dishonest pawn dealer. Read.
turd ferguson

Charleston, WV

#10 Mar 23, 2013
Thankful wrote:
You are so stupidly wrong. I live at Woodcrest, am gainfully employed and have been all my life. The pawn broker called the police and made them aware that a necklace worth at least $5,000.00 (matching the description) had been pawned. The pawn broker risked losing the money he inadvertently loaned on the necklace and did the right thing. Just because you seem to be stupidly dishonest does not mean everyone is. Your version of what happened shows not only lack of intelligence but lack of judgement. I happen to know several police officers that live in my neighborhood, and all of them vouch that pawn shop owners often assist them in finding stolen property. They assure me that frequent visits and checks are made with pawn shops and the majority of the owners are helpful, honest, and dependable. Why would the police lie about that. I just said only a bad cop would uphold a dishonest pawn dealer. Read.
You just proved that you feel your better than all and everyone is crooked when you stated " I live at Woodcrest ". You think that because you live in Woodcrest that makes you better than someone else or your story more believable? That your necklace or crap stolen is more precious than someone say on S. Fayette St? Get real lady. Your crap was stolen and hocked. Happens all the time. Im not saying its ok, but your story is bunk. All your corrupt cops bull can kiss my a$$. I just love how when people don't get their way with police they immediately revert to " that cop is crooked ".
creeker

Charleston, WV

#11 Mar 23, 2013
I've even seen strangers just standing on the side of roads with signs (for sale) holding the handle of a lawnmower or weedeater. One problem is SUPPOSEDLY honest people keep them in business by stopping to buy something for $10 that would cost $200 new - or even $100 reburfished THOSE PEOPLE know the items are stolen. Like drugs - without buyers, drug dealers would be out of business.

Pawn Shops are/were not near as bad as the person buying POUNDS OF COPPER from people in junk vehicles with long dirty hair and fingernails and tatoos all over their bodies.

And yes flea markets certainly can thrive on stolen goods. I had a couple of items taken not too long ago and the next door neighbor "sold" at flea markets but I didn't notice them gone immediately, therefore no point in checking out that place then - but in my gut I KNEW. So those nice lawn ornaments people put out that disappear likewise sell quickly - hard to prove one of those
yours anyway. Also smart crooks have face mostly covered or disable cameras (or steal them!!!) from homes..
Thankful

Beckley, WV

#12 Mar 23, 2013
turd ferguson wrote:
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You just proved that you feel your better than all and everyone is crooked when you stated " I live at Woodcrest ". You think that because you live in Woodcrest that makes you better than someone else or your story more believable? That your necklace or crap stolen is more precious than someone say on S. Fayette St? Get real lady. Your crap was stolen and hocked. Happens all the time. Im not saying its ok, but your story is bunk. All your corrupt cops bull can kiss my a$$. I just love how when people don't get their way with police they immediately revert to " that cop is crooked ".
Listen "turd" or "poopy pants", I said I lived at Woodcrest because you accused me of living in a trailer. YOU probably live in a trailer. I only mentioned where I live and the worth of the item because YOU said I live in a trailer and it was worth $30.00. Besides, what difference would it make whether I lived in a trailer or how much the item was worth? You seem like a person too stupid to even debate with. All I said was "if a pawn shop is crooked and continues to operate for years without problem, then he is being protected by someone. Cops check pawn shops regularly. If the pawn shop is crooked, and cops check it, and allow it to continue, that means the cop is either not doing his job or is crooked. End of conversation. You are way too stupid to even bother with.
Exactly

Beckley, WV

#13 Mar 23, 2013
creeker wrote:
I've even seen strangers just standing on the side of roads with signs (for sale) holding the handle of a lawnmower or weedeater. One problem is SUPPOSEDLY honest people keep them in business by stopping to buy something for $10 that would cost $200 new - or even $100 reburfished THOSE PEOPLE know the items are stolen. Like drugs - without buyers, drug dealers would be out of business.
Pawn Shops are/were not near as bad as the person buying POUNDS OF COPPER from people in junk vehicles with long dirty hair and fingernails and tatoos all over their bodies.
And yes flea markets certainly can thrive on stolen goods. I had a couple of items taken not too long ago and the next door neighbor "sold" at flea markets but I didn't notice them gone immediately, therefore no point in checking out that place then - but in my gut I KNEW. So those nice lawn ornaments people put out that disappear likewise sell quickly - hard to prove one of those
yours anyway. Also smart crooks have face mostly covered or disable cameras (or steal them!!!) from homes..
exactly
turd ferguson

Charleston, WV

#14 Mar 23, 2013
Thankful wrote:
<quoted text>Listen "turd" or "poopy pants", I said I lived at Woodcrest because you accused me of living in a trailer. YOU probably live in a trailer. I only mentioned where I live and the worth of the item because YOU said I live in a trailer and it was worth $30.00. Besides, what difference would it make whether I lived in a trailer or how much the item was worth? You seem like a person too stupid to even debate with. All I said was "if a pawn shop is crooked and continues to operate for years without problem, then he is being protected by someone. Cops check pawn shops regularly. If the pawn shop is crooked, and cops check it, and allow it to continue, that means the cop is either not doing his job or is crooked. End of conversation. You are way too stupid to even bother with.
You liar! Your exact statement was " If a pawn shop is dishonest yet continues to operate without any problems, then the shop owner obviously has a connection with a bad cop, otherwise he would be arrested and his shop closed down ". Haha. Not " protected by someone " but specifically - a crooked cop. Go lie somewhere else. Hahaha. Busted!!! Oh so now cops aren't always crooked but instead not doing their job?? Which is it - crooked or just lazy? Hahaha. Your busted liar!
COPS

Beckley, WV

#15 Mar 23, 2013
turd ferguson wrote:
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You liar! Your exact statement was " If a pawn shop is dishonest yet continues to operate without any problems, then the shop owner obviously has a connection with a bad cop, otherwise he would be arrested and his shop closed down ". Haha. Not " protected by someone " but specifically - a crooked cop. Go lie somewhere else. Hahaha. Busted!!! Oh so now cops aren't always crooked but instead not doing their job?? Which is it - crooked or just lazy? Hahaha. Your busted liar!
If they are lazy and not doing the job they were sworn to do, then they are crooked and dirty. A officer of the law is sworn to certain responsibility and if he is slacking off, he is dirty and crooked. That is how a good cop feels about your stupidity. A good cop does not let things slide by for years.
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Since: Dec 12

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#16 Mar 23, 2013
Don't continue to argue with that person. Can't have a battle of wits with a unarmed individual!
turd ferguson

Charleston, WV

#17 Mar 23, 2013
COPS wrote:
<quoted text>If they are lazy and not doing the job they were sworn to do, then they are crooked and dirty. A officer of the law is sworn to certain responsibility and if he is slacking off, he is dirty and crooked. That is how a good cop feels about your stupidity. A good cop does not let things slide by for years.
What?! A lazy cop is automatically crooked and dirty? Ha! Ill give you substandard or even a poor example of law enforcement but not crooked/dirty. You fool.
COPS

Beckley, WV

#18 Mar 23, 2013
turd ferguson wrote:
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What?! A lazy cop is automatically crooked and dirty? Ha! Ill give you substandard or even a poor example of law enforcement but not crooked/dirty. You fool.
I'll keep your feelings in mind!! We will see who the fool is.
COPS

Beckley, WV

#19 Mar 23, 2013
Miss Know All wrote:
Don't continue to argue with that person. Can't have a battle of wits with a unarmed individual!
there is a lot in a name, haha. You are so correct about the turd.
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lol

Cranbury, NJ

#21 Mar 24, 2013
creeker wrote:
I've even seen strangers just standing on the side of roads with signs (for sale) holding the handle of a lawnmower or weedeater. One problem is SUPPOSEDLY honest people keep them in business by stopping to buy something for $10 that would cost $200 new - or even $100 reburfished THOSE PEOPLE know the items are stolen. Like drugs - without buyers, drug dealers would be out of business.
Pawn Shops are/were not near as bad as the person

buying POUNDS OF COPPER from people in junk vehicles with long dirty hair and fingernails and tatoos all over their bodies.
And yes flea markets certainly can thrive on stolen goods. I had a couple of items taken not too long ago and the next door neighbor "sold" at flea markets but I didn't notice them gone immediately, therefore no point in checking out that place then - but in my gut I KNEW. So those nice lawn ornaments people put out that disappear likewise sell quickly - hard to prove one of those
yours anyway. Also smart crooks have face mostly covered or disable cameras (or steal them!!!) from homes..
Having tattoos does NOT mean a person is a bad person ya dumbass!
knew him

Saint Albans, WV

#22 Jul 4, 2013
Doug bays and his brother were breakin into and pawning things from several homes on west side mostly first house was bill there neighbor who ws in process of moving and they offered tto help move and got a window unlocked so when guy left to unload they robbed him of all they good then they commited a rash of bike stealins weedeaters tools from yards then things inside homes of friends and strangers kv pawnes doug got space heaters rods jewelry phones as they do and sell prostitues meth pot heroin and bathsakt. Not to mention perscripton pills and out of their mom lenas hud approved home

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