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MrMess

Beckley, WV

#1 Apr 12, 2012
Oak Hill Fire Department has a corporation within it. A board of directors more or less. The way our city is supposed to work is the Mayor appoints These Board member for a certain period of time and as they come to an end the Mayor appoints or reappoints it's members. Just like the sanitary board or civil service or planning and zoning . All meetings are to be advertised and open to the public. By STATE LAW!
However with the fire department this never happens and is therefore very Illegal. People can easily go to Jail for this. Why do we keep letting them break the law. Please if you think I am wrong call the secretary of states office as I did and ask questions.
They do not like me posting this, I will be called a lot of names and followed to any topic I choose to speak on. This will not stop me, I will not be intimated, will not pay attention to there threats of guns or violence as they did before...WRONG IS WRONG. They need to do right by us and come clean and quit the department.
work horse

Petersburg, VA

#2 Apr 12, 2012
Dear Mr. Mess
First let me make it very clear that I am not affiliated with the OHFD in any way shape or form. I agree that there is likely corruption within the Dept. However, I do believe this is the norm. Pharmaceutical companies, gas companies, any political entity has corruption. I'm not sure what the fire Dept did to you personnally to piss you off, and frankly I don't care. What I do know though is that you seem to have a lot of time on your hands. Maybe you should pick up a hobby outside of bullying and downgrading. At the risk of sounding cliche, maybe you should sweep the dirt off your own back porch before pointing out others dirt. I don't know who you are, and unlike others on this site I couldn't care less. But I'm geussing you are older and have likely made many mistakes in your life that you now regret. You are not going to change anything by tirading on topix. If you want to throw fits about something, make it worth something worthwhile, like gas price gouging. Something that affects Everyone. Honestly, in the larger scheme of things, who gives a crap about what size fire truck they have in Oak Hill, WV, or who is on the board? Exactly why do you insist on tearing down people's faith of the OHFD? Especially when you are by no means perfect? Point is- Get a life. Don't mean to sound degrading g or argumentative, but this whit is old. Get off of it and your high horse.
MrMess

Beckley, WV

#3 Apr 12, 2012
I have nothing personal with anyone on the department. I see things that are not right and like to talk about them. You forget, this is my money your money and all our money. this same ol stuff has gone on in Fayette County long enough. In order to clean up the world we must first start with our own back yard. If it makes people mad so be it, but for the most part, the citizens of Oak Hill will be glad to get the mess the city is in cleaned up. The fire dept. concerns everyone in our community.
MrMess

Beckley, WV

#4 Apr 12, 2012
I don't see how honesty puts anyone on a high horse. I am no better than any other honest person that expects that the city and their departments are also. They represent me. I expect them to be decent and honest while on my behalf. That is not a lot to ask.
MrMess

Beckley, WV

#5 Apr 12, 2012
A reasonable person, one not connected with the fire station would not have asked me that question. OR made those comments , huah Workhorse.
MrMess

Beckley, WV

#6 Apr 12, 2012
ANYTIME, the city is spending your tax dollar it is more than OK to question about the money being spent.ANYTIME they get defensive, there is usually a reason why. If it were all on the up and up, they would not care.
Go ahead try to make me look bad or say things but in the end, we all know why you do it.
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work horse

United States

#8 Apr 12, 2012
You seem to think that anyone that disagrees with you is affiliated with the fire Dept. That's just silly. As I stated earlier I am not. Nor am I trying to degrade you as you degrade the fire Dept. I just have better things to do with my time and more important things to gripe about. The fire Dept and their demise does not consume my every thought.$100 dollars per week in gas bothers me, the cost of milk and bread bothers me, my children's future in our current economy crisis concerns me, my chances of social security when I get to be your age concerns me, Medicare for the elderly that hardly covers their Medication concerns me. You see all the things worth my concern? Exactly how does the fire Dept affect my life or my future (unless my house cathes fire)? I believe the fire Dept has wronged you in some way and you are seeking vengeance. Why else would someone complainas you do? If they haven't as you say then maybe you should realign your priorities. Unless you are presently or have in the past worked for the fire Dept I don't understand why you are so hung up on their dealings. Honestly, who cares? They don't affect our day to day lives, and nothing you say or do is going to change the way they do business. As I stated before, in a polite manner, get over it. Please.
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MrMess

Beckley, WV

#13 Apr 13, 2012
Why is it proper to hold secret corporation meetings at the fire department without the public? It is our fire department and our money and equipment that is involved......Time to make them public and have the Mayor appoint civilian members on the board ..........OVERSIGHT IS NEEDED HERE, PUBLIC OVERSIGHT.
I have a Life

Charleston, WV

#14 Apr 13, 2012
MrMess wrote:
Why is it proper to hold secret corporation meetings at the fire department without the public? It is our fire department and our money and equipment that is involved......Time to make them public and have the Mayor appoint civilian members on the board ..........OVERSIGHT IS NEEDED HERE, PUBLIC OVERSIGHT.
Mr. Mess sounds like you need to get a job...you have entirely too much time on your hands... not only do i see you post stuff on the fire department but you reply to about everything that anyone posts...you know something about everything...why not put in your application and become a fire fighter so you can see exactly what goes on there...better yet why not try and get you some classes and become the cheif??? I will say again as I did on you last post you had but somehow that forum disappeared guess the truth was gettng to you...they put their life on the line each and every call I for one an thankful that we have such a quick responding fire department...as I also stated I have 2 family members on the dept and worry each and everytime I hear the fire trucks go out...I sure hope and pray that someday you will not only worry about what is done at the fire department but you will look and respect them as most of Oak Hill does for putting their lives on the line...you sure sound like a lonely person and that is so sad...maybe if you quit worrying about what everyone else is doing and focus on some good you may be happier!!!!
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MrMess

Beckley, WV

#18 Apr 13, 2012
I would sure like to see the entire budget and expenditures, everything, pay, expenses, inventory. would love to see where ever penny went of the city county and state money and any other monies went to. Including donations. I bet we might get a surprise or two.
I have a Life

Charleston, WV

#19 Apr 13, 2012
MrMess wrote:
I would sure like to see the entire budget and expenditures, everything, pay, expenses, inventory. would love to see where ever penny went of the city county and state money and any other monies went to. Including donations. I bet we might get a surprise or two.
All you have to do is ask...IT'S PUBLIC RECORD MR. NO LIFE!!!!
Go to Hell

Elizabeth, NJ

#20 Apr 13, 2012
MrMess wrote:
I would sure like to see the entire budget and expenditures, everything, pay, expenses, inventory. would love to see where ever penny went of the city county and state money and any other monies went to. Including donations. I bet we might get a surprise or two.
Asking do you need help on your home life I can help you and she say all my where have you been lol. Just tell me and I be there.
Birddog

Oak Hill, WV

#21 Apr 13, 2012
Go to Hell wrote:
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Asking do you need help on your home life I can help you and she say all my where have you been lol. Just tell me and I be there.
Wow,another illiterate person.
Fo Realz Player

Elkview, WV

#22 Apr 13, 2012
Holy hell!! We have a secret society on our fire department?? So THATS what that one room is for! Thanks!!!
I have a Life

Charleston, WV

#23 Apr 13, 2012
The fire department wasn't the first to have someone help themselves to money does the name Virginia Fox ring a bell????
MrMess

Beckley, WV

#24 Apr 13, 2012
I have a Life wrote:
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All you have to do is ask...IT'S PUBLIC RECORD MR. NO LIFE!!!!
NO, LOL it is not public record. Why do we the public tax payer not have the right we should have to know where every penny on the department go's to. We the tax payer public do have a right to decide what we do and do not need on hat department. We the public should have regular citizens on the board, it only has and has always had just firemen on the board.
We also have these rights and a lot more of them with out rude comments and threats by fire department members and their family's.
The fire department needs to publish in the paper where all and I mean all their money go's to, all the money all the men make all their vendors, everything. I wish they could explain why a complete list has never been published in the paper, including the money the board of directors spend in the monthly meetings....

WE HAVE A RIGHT TO ALL THIS WITH OUT RUDE COMMENTS AND THREATS OF GUNS AND VIOLENCE AND INSULTS, which I have had many. Just go's to show the caliber of people and their families on the department.
Yup

Fayetteville, WV

#25 Apr 13, 2012
I have a Life wrote:
The fire department wasn't the first to have someone help themselves to money does the name Virginia Fox ring a bell????
It sure does! She got away with tons of money that she took from the City of Oak Hill. She was never charged with this crime, I would only like to have 10% of the money that she took.
I have a Life

Charleston, WV

#26 Apr 13, 2012
MrMess wrote:
<quoted text>NO, LOL it is not public record. Why do we the public tax payer not have the right we should have to know where every penny on the department go's to. We the tax payer public do have a right to decide what we do and do not need on hat department. We the public should have regular citizens on the board, it only has and has always had just firemen on the board.
We also have these rights and a lot more of them with out rude comments and threats by fire department members and their family's.
The fire department needs to publish in the paper where all and I mean all their money go's to, all the money all the men make all their vendors, everything. I wish they could explain why a complete list has never been published in the paper, including the money the board of directors spend in the monthly meetings....
WE HAVE A RIGHT TO ALL THIS WITH OUT RUDE COMMENTS AND THREATS OF GUNS AND VIOLENCE AND INSULTS, which I have had many. Just go's to show the caliber of people and their families on the department.
ITS THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT....you really aren't as smart as you are trying to make yourself sound....
MrMess

Beckley, WV

#27 Apr 13, 2012
And a person usually has to sue in court for them to hand over the requested documents, just like in Raleigh count a month ago..Look where Mayor Pugh is now at
I have a life

Oak Hill, WV

#28 Apr 13, 2012
MrMess wrote:
And a person usually has to sue in court for them to hand over the requested documents, just like in Raleigh count a month ago..Look where Mayor Pugh is now at
If u don't ask how do u know u won't get it.....duh guess u know it all so u just want to keep things stirred up Mr No Life!!!!!

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