Cause of Novato house fire still unde...

Cause of Novato house fire still under investigation

There are 13 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Mar 29, 2010, titled Cause of Novato house fire still under investigation. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

Investigators are still working to determine the cause of a blaze that destroyed a four-bedrooom Novato home Saturday night.

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“ Walking a strait circle”

Since: May 09

novato

#1 Mar 29, 2010
I agree that the basic structure of the house would be saved as a result of the sprinklers, but wont everything else be ruined by the water ?Hmmm. I guess water damage is better than fire damage. I know nothing of modern sprinkler systems . If they are activated in one part of the home , say the garage, will the ones in the rest of the home be activated as well?I know that is not the case with the old school sprinklers which rellied on the melting of the solder or whatever to set them off. Very sorry for this family's loss.
JonnyC

Novato, CA

#2 Mar 29, 2010
Red Diaper wrote:
I agree that the basic structure of the house would be saved as a result of the sprinklers, but wont everything else be ruined by the water ?Hmmm. I guess water damage is better than fire damage. I know nothing of modern sprinkler systems . If they are activated in one part of the home , say the garage, will the ones in the rest of the home be activated as well?I know that is not the case with the old school sprinklers which rellied on the melting of the solder or whatever to set them off. Very sorry for this family's loss.
"It's like having an on-duty firefighter in your house at all times," Nickel said.
belvborn

San Jose, CA

#3 Mar 29, 2010
Uh oh. They got a problem now. There is doubt if it was accidental. If it's not accidental, it's intentional.
the goodguy

San Mateo, CA

#4 Mar 29, 2010
In response to your question about residential sprinklers: the sprinkler heads only activate when they detect heat near them. They have a small device, typically a glass tube filled with a liquid, that shatters when it is heated to a predetermined temperature. Therefore, only the heads that are near the fire are activated, not the ones throughout the rest of the structure. Having first hand experience with this, I can tell you that water is much easier to clean up than the aftermath of a fire. Hope this answers your question. I am sure someone will post that I am wrong about this, but if you have further questions about these, I am sure you can get further information from your local fire station.

“ Walking a strait circle”

Since: May 09

novato

#5 Mar 29, 2010
belvborn wrote:
Uh oh. They got a problem now. There is doubt if it was accidental. If it's not accidental, it's intentional.


"We do know that it was accidental." Right there in the story you never bothered to read .

Macsat

Novato, CA

#6 Mar 29, 2010
Red Diaper wrote:
I agree that the basic structure of the house would be saved as a result of the sprinklers, but wont everything else be ruined by the water ?Hmmm. I guess water damage is better than fire damage. I know nothing of modern sprinkler systems . If they are activated in one part of the home , say the garage, will the ones in the rest of the home be activated as well?I know that is not the case with the old school sprinklers which rellied on the melting of the solder or whatever to set them off. Very sorry for this family's loss.
Good question. The sprinklers only open where there is fire. There is a valve on the end of each sprinkler head that only pop when they reach a certain temp, opening only that head and spraying onto the area directly below it.
jesse

Novato, CA

#7 Mar 29, 2010
BGHOZ

Hayward, CA

#9 Mar 29, 2010
A friend of mine called me while I was at work on Sat.and told me of this incedent...wow,can you imagine? Leaving your house for a few minutes just to have someone call you to report your house is burning? Wow.Professional Firefight I second your thoughts.
jesse

Novato, CA

#10 Mar 29, 2010
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTER wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the question. As a professional firefighter, I'm probably your best bet in getting it answered. Correctly. Now, when the fire sets off the thingamajig in your ceiling, it will activate ALL of them throughout your house. And most likely the houses on both sides of you as well. Glad I could be of help. Did I mention that I was a professional firefighter?
you would'nt happen to do any professinal nursing on the side, would you?
a terrible

Santa Maria, CA

#11 Mar 30, 2010
Nickel said damage to the house would have been much less if the home had been equipped with fire suppression sprinklers.

"The fire sprinklers would have kept the fire in check until the fire department got there," Nickel said.

He said the Novato Fire District requires that all new and substantially remodeled houses have such sprinklers. The requirement took effect in 1986. The house at 500 Willow Court was built in 1974.

Nickel said 80 percent of fire-related deaths would be eliminated if all houses were equipped with sprinklers.

"It's like having an on-duty firefighter in your house at all times," Nickel said."

1. Would anyone want a beer guzzling Chrome polisher in their home?

2. Maybe the district could pay for sprinklers in every residential home?

3. Maybe, you nitwits should watch your "tone" of voice; before you get hit with a
libel suit?

4. While I even bothering with you grass mowers--why aren't everyone of you loafers
certified in EMT medicine?
a terrible

Santa Maria, CA

#12 Mar 30, 2010
Red Diaper wrote:
I agree that the basic structure of the house would be saved as a result of the sprinklers, but wont everything else be ruined by the water ?Hmmm. I guess water damage is better than fire damage. I know nothing of modern sprinkler systems . If they are activated in one part of the home , say the garage, will the ones in the rest of the home be activated as well?I know that is not the case with the old school sprinklers which rellied on the melting of the solder or whatever to set them off. Very sorry for this family's loss.
The reason you don't see them in residential houses is cost. The pipe fitters union would love the work though. If the insurance lobby would give large incentives to install them--
meaning 1/2 ing the outrageous premiums they already extort from homeowners, you might see more installed?
a terrible

Santa Maria, CA

#13 Mar 30, 2010
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTER wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the question. As a professional firefighter, I'm probably your best bet in getting it answered. Correctly. Now, when the fire sets off the thingamajig in your ceiling, it will activate ALL of them throughout your house. And most likely the houses on both sides of you as well. Glad I could be of help. Did I mention that I was a professional firefighter?
No--each unit needs to be activated by heat--they do not all go off at once. Ridid
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BGHOZ

Hayward, CA

#14 Mar 31, 2010
jesse wrote:
<quoted text>
you would'nt happen to do any professinal nursing on the side, would you?
Not that I'm anyone to answer that question, but the truth is yes they do to some degree.

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