Marin Healthcare District boots Sutter doctors from offices

Full story: Marin Independent Journal

The Marin Healthcare District is using its power of eminent domain to evict 12 doctors affiliated with Sutter Health from suites at 1350 S. Eliseo Drive, a building adjacent to Marin General Hospital.
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Nick

San Anselmo, CA

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#1
Nov 14, 2010
 
Get those corporate profit sucking vampires out of there. Since Obama's a total sell out to the insurance companies, I guess we'll have to get our own health care, one district at a time.
Wow

Novato, CA

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#2
Nov 15, 2010
 
Come to Novato Community Hospital, Marinites.

Great staff, excellent facilities, superior service!

Why put your health care needs in the hands of such retaliatory practices!

Since: Apr 09

Marin County, CA

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#3
Nov 15, 2010
 
Well, well, Sutter. Maybe you should have been a bit more cooperative in the handover and not tried to crash the data processing system.

What a shame.

(Oh, and wait till you try to build a new hospital in Marin. I hear it can be tough to get through the process here.)

Time wounds all heels....
Eoin

Novato, CA

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#4
Nov 15, 2010
 
Now lets get them out of Novato Community Hospital and Marin County. They don't care about anyone health, just profit.

Since: Aug 09

San Rafael, CA

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#5
Nov 15, 2010
 
And the war continues...
SAVAGE

San Anselmo, CA

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#6
Nov 15, 2010
 
Move in and have a lease controlled by Sutter Health until 2015???
Doesn't make sense
Batman

San Rafael, CA

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#7
Nov 15, 2010
 
are you ready for the parcel tax to retrofit the hospital?
just a matter of time
Realist

San Francisco, CA

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#8
Nov 15, 2010
 
Marin General is DEAD. If the anti-Sutter group had set out to destroy the hospital, they couldn't have done a better job. We are paying the hospital administrator $800,000 per year, and will need to pass a nearly $1,000,000,000 (BILLION Dollar)bond to peform State mandated seismic up-grades. Sutter was willing to pay for these upgrades in exchange for a leaase long enough to amortize the expense. There is no way that 2/3's of voters are going to vote to give the dysfunctional hospital baord a Billion dollars to waste. The only way to save our hospital is to throw the looneys out, and to sign a long term lease with an experienced hospital management group (like Sutter) who will pay for the required seismic upgrades.
a patient

San Francisco, CA

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#9
Nov 15, 2010
 
I know nothing of this child's play, but I do know that I have some of the best doctors in Marin. One has been my neurologist for seventeen years. He and three others have been kind, intelligent, and very caring with me. They have discovered problems that others have missed. I truly owe my life to these men and women and they are all doctors in the Sutter group at the address in question. I am truly grateful for these wonderful physicians. Without my neurologist, I don't think I'd be here today.

I also think their office staff are the best.

I'm old. I've been around the block a couple times and had too many so so doctors before I found this group. I know of what I speak.
Political Dummy

San Rafael, CA

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#10
Nov 15, 2010
 
So much for the kind hand of government. This is ABSOLUTELY governmental power abuse. I hope I am on the jury when Sutter is awarded damages.

The losers- sick patients and taxpayers.

Congratulations Marin, your vote to privatize Marin General has given absolute authority to $800k executives and Nurses Unions, consultants and political hacks.

Marin General will quickly become another "hospital of last choice" like so many other poorly funded and managed hospitals across the county.

I am for Sutter Health ALL THE WAY.
Koalabear2525

United States

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#11
Nov 15, 2010
 
whats after the lease ? then what ? get rid of sutter now .time to get a new hospital and get rid of sutter

Since: May 10

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#12
Nov 15, 2010
 
I guess many of the comment authors here like corporations siphoning money out of Marin General and sending it elsewhere.
Check your facts

San Francisco, CA

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#13
Nov 15, 2010
 
The cost of building an new hospital is not $1 Billion - where the heck did you get that figure? Also, Sutter said they would build a new hospital, but SUTTER would own the hospital - not the community. So, instead of having a profitable publicly owned hospital that can help fund other needed health services, we would have had a privately owned hospital with Sutter sucking out all the profits. Sounds like someone has been drinking the Sutter Kool-aid....
Sanford Gossman

Hayward, CA

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Nov 16, 2010
 
(San Rafael)

Right on!! Boot thwe basterds.
Former Novato Resident

Houston, TX

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#15
Nov 16, 2010
 
"If the Sutter folks move to a building further way from the hospital it has no material effect on their operations," Friedenberg said, "but for us to provide the services for our patients that is where we need to be."

Maybe this statement should be investigated a little more IJ. Why does location near the hospital not matter to the neurologists, pcps, dermatologists, integrative medicine physicians and psychiatrist, but matters so much to the Marin Cancer Institute?

From the postings, there are a variety of opinions on the quality of Marin General services, but regardless of those opinions, location of a physicians practice close to an admitting hospital is a significant value. One of the reasons that Medical Centers are highly prized(e.g. Texas Medical Center) is that a high concentration of doctors with various specialties allows for cross marketing and consumer convenience.

Clearly, there are benefits for the Marin Cancer Institute to locating all of it's operations in one location, but is using eminent domain on the leases appropriate? Obviously there will be a valuation lawsuit and then consider that in 2015 when Marin General's lease is up, they will either need to move or again use eminent domain to purchase the property outright. That should result in another lawsuit. It does seem like a slap suit against Sutter.
I Hate To Say It

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Nov 17, 2010
 
"Sutter owns the building at 1350 S. Eliseo. Marin General Hospital, however, has a master lease with Sutter Health for use of the property through 2015."

Marin General used to own this building. During the Sutter association, the deed mysteriously changed hands, so add that to the list of Sutter's misappropriations. MGH is doing all it can by booting these jerks, since it somehow kept the master lease in the deal. We should be looking into the transaction when this building changed hands from Marin General to Sutter.

During its tenure here, Sutter acquired a lot of real estate in Marin - did they do it with Marin General's money? It would be ironic if the competing hospital Sutter wants to build in their Marin Square compound was bought with Marin General's money.

It doesn't astonish me at the amount of money Sutter looted from Marin General as much as it does that most of the people of Marin still don't get it. Marin General is our hospital & Sutter stole from us.
I Hate To Say It

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Nov 17, 2010
 
Political Dummy wrote:
So much for the kind hand of government. This is ABSOLUTELY governmental power abuse. I hope I am on the jury when Sutter is awarded damages.
The losers- sick patients and taxpayers.
Congratulations Marin, your vote to privatize Marin General has given absolute authority to $800k executives and Nurses Unions, consultants and political hacks.
Marin General will quickly become another "hospital of last choice" like so many other poorly funded and managed hospitals across the county.
I am for Sutter Health ALL THE WAY.
You are mistaken on a very basic thing in this matter. We did not privatize Marin General. It was already our community hospital (owned by the people of Marin). The problem was that we gave it away to a for-profit non-profit, who then pillaged us. We have just taken back what is rightfully ours.

Executives who run hospitals do quite well, and we are paying a competitive wage to someone extremely skilled. If he can manage not just the hospital, but also this transition well, then he's worth every penny. And if this guy can help get our $120 million back, he is worth his weight in gold.
Political Dummy

San Rafael, CA

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Nov 17, 2010
 
I Hate To Say It wrote:
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You are mistaken on a very basic thing in this matter. We did not privatize Marin General. It was already our community hospital (owned by the people of Marin). The problem was that we gave it away to a for-profit non-profit, who then pillaged us. We have just taken back what is rightfully ours.
Executives who run hospitals do quite well, and we are paying a competitive wage to someone extremely skilled. If he can manage not just the hospital, but also this transition well, then he's worth every penny. And if this guy can help get our $120 million back, he is worth his weight in gold.
While the ownership of the building is the county of Marin, the hospital business was 100% Sutter. As far as the evils of profits,
you have contradicted yourself. On one hand you find the evils of Sutter Hospital unbearable but you welcome $800k hospital executives (could it say that they receive a "profit" of $500,000 for their skill over the market price for similarly talented executives?)

The very galling part about this is the abuse of government power to condemn private property rights. No free market should be allowed to do this. This is the Soviet mentality of ownership. They are competiting unfairly with the help of Big Brother.

As far as Sutter "pillaging" us, I think you are totally out of line. Sutter, a private corporation, put away a rainy day fund for infrastructure replacement, i.e. investment and simply took their funds. The fools who backed Sutter failed to take into account the huge benefit of having a FOR PROFIT corporation invest in the community. The new "GOVERNMENT" owned Marin Hospital will soon become a huge TAX burden on the citizens.

Nice Socialist dream. Bad Reality.

Patients lose, Unions, Political Hacks, Consultants win
I Hate To Say It

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#20
Nov 17, 2010
 
I don't contradict myself at all. I'm a capitalist and believe that as far as hiring an employee goes, you get what you pay for, and if you want someone good, you need to pay the going rate.

I'm against eminent domain in principle, but since it appears that Sutter stole the building from Marin General, I think Marin General should exercise its right as owner of the master lease.

I don't find evil in for-profit corporations. I do think it is wrong that non-profits like Sutter to really be for-profits, and their non-profit tax status should be revoked. I find Sutter evil and unbearable in how it so brazenly looted Marin General. I am not out of line in the least. Marin General was Sutter's cash cow. Their "rainy day fund" you mention was the profit of Marin General.

You people think it is socialist that we own our community hospital. Get over it, because we do own it. We have always owned it. Sutter did not invest in our community as you so. It cleaned us out.
Shutter Sutter

Oakland, CA

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#21
Nov 17, 2010
 
MGH has been integral to Marin since the 1950's. Sutter came in, made their profits, and then adding insult to injury, (oh, the irony), swiped an extra 120 million when being shown the door.

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