Residents want ban on wood burning on...

Residents want ban on wood burning on 'Spare the Air' days

There are 15 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Apr 29, 2008, titled Residents want ban on wood burning on 'Spare the Air' days. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

Most who attended a Marin information session Monday told Bay Area air quality officials they support a regional ban on use of fireplaces when air pollution is high.

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David Randolph

San Jose, CA

#1 Apr 29, 2008
"People all around my neighborhood are dying of lung cancer. To get from my house to my car, I have to wear protective goggles and a mask," said Miriam Spross of Novato. "No one has the right to kill other people with their fireplace smoke."

I have lived in Novato 11 years and find this statement completely laughable and utter nonsense. She knows for a fact that these people dying of lung cancer have never smoked and that the cancer is caused by fireplaces? Who do you know that goes to their car with goggles and a mask? Is she swimming or driving? I think I hear the Twilight Zone theme song playing in the background.

Since: Feb 08

Hana, HI

#2 Apr 29, 2008
Absolutely no doubt that Mariam Spross is whacked out, but what is even more laughable is the fact that she allowed it to be quoted in the IJ. I will be laughing at her for many, many years, she should get a job on SNL.

“"In dog years, I'm dead."”

Since: Feb 08

Novato

#3 Apr 29, 2008
These arguments for the ban are the most idiotic I have seen in a long time. There is no evidence to show the amount of smoke from these fireplaces is enough to be harmful . The same people complaining create 2or 3 times the pollution the first five minutes they drive their car in the morning. Would they be willing to not drive on that same day?
No most people don't have that luxury. Still we want to address something that is less than 1% of total Marin Pollution and ignore the source of 40% of Marin Pollution. Wow, real brainiacs in that meeting. They could do Marin more good playing russian rullete or at least wear their brown shirts so we can see them for who they really are.
Mary White

Mill Valley, CA

#4 Nov 24, 2008
I was born and raised in west marin, when I was young we used to be able to burn outside and then that got banned. PG&E rates went up and we replaced our fireplace with a wood burning stove so that we would have more efficient heat. The wood burning stove we had did not have a catilitic converter and did not burn clean enough. So we replaced our old stove with a new cleaner burning stove to comply with Marins demands. Now due to the complaints of a few individuals, heating your home with wood will soon be banned...
How about these few whining individuals stay in their homes or move. Why should the majority have to bow down for a few?
Greg O Rio

Mill Valley, CA

#5 Nov 24, 2008
Mary White wrote:
I was born and raised in west marin, when I was young we used to be able to burn outside and then that got banned. PG&E rates went up and we replaced our fireplace with a wood burning stove so that we would have more efficient heat. The wood burning stove we had did not have a catilitic converter and did not burn clean enough. So we replaced our old stove with a new cleaner burning stove to comply with Marins demands. Now due to the complaints of a few individuals, heating your home with wood will soon be banned...
How about these few whining individuals stay in their homes or move. Why should the majority have to bow down for a few?
I lived in west Marin and Larkspur, I don't remember anyone burning trash outside in west Marin, but I remember it in Larkspur in the early 60's, it was a drag. People would burn anything.
I agree with you 100% percent about people whining and trying to control how others live. Live and let live.
freedom ISNT free

United States

#6 Nov 24, 2008
Mary White wrote:
I was born and raised in west marin, when I was young we used to be able to burn outside and then that got banned. PG&E rates went up and we replaced our fireplace with a wood burning stove so that we would have more efficient heat. The wood burning stove we had did not have a catilitic converter and did not burn clean enough. So we replaced our old stove with a new cleaner burning stove to comply with Marins demands. Now due to the complaints of a few individuals, heating your home with wood will soon be banned...
How about these few whining individuals stay in their homes or move. Why should the majority have to bow down for a few?
...I agree: paying 90 overcompensated, no-accountability-having government employees to drive around looking for smoke is another waste of our tax dollars!
Greg O Rio

Mill Valley, CA

#7 Nov 24, 2008
freedom ISNT free wrote:
<quoted text>...I agree: paying 90 overcompensated, no-accountability-having government employees to drive around looking for smoke is another waste of our tax dollars!
And I doubt that they drive zero emissions electric cars, and probably smoke cigarettes and puff pot sticks while driving around sniffing for wood fires. Their smoke palate must be refined by now. Imagine that there is a "chief smog sniffer what's in charge" sitting in an executive suite barking orders on the 2 way radio to dispatch the smoke narcs out into the night armed with IR heat detectors. Revenuers ! Sounds like a cush job, and they don't have to ride on trains or busses to do it, they are free do go wherever they want to and get paid no matter what the do or don't do, and free gas too ! If I needed a job, I would go to work for the BAAQMD, and ignore the wood fires, just collect a paycheck for riding around and doing nothing.
Fight for clean air

San Rafael, CA

#8 Feb 3, 2009
We can't even sit in our backyard because of our neighbor burning wood in their fireplace every day all day long. Just after one minute in the backyard our clothes smell and our lungs start to sting after about half an hour. Sometimes it seeps into our house, so there's no escape.

We are very concerned about our health because fine particulates can bypass the body’s natural defenses, penetrating deeply into the lungs and even passing into the bloodstream.

Since: Feb 08

Hana, HI

#9 Feb 3, 2009
Fight for clean air wrote:
We can't even sit in our backyard because of our neighbor burning wood in their fireplace every day all day long. Just after one minute in the backyard our clothes smell and our lungs start to sting after about half an hour. Sometimes it seeps into our house, so there's no escape.
We are very concerned about our health because fine particulates can bypass the body’s natural defenses, penetrating deeply into the lungs and even passing into the bloodstream.
If you are really worried about air pollution, the first thing you should do is move out of San Rafael.
We had one poster on these forums who lives down in downtown between second and third street who claimed he has black soot on his kitchen counter every day from all the heavy traffic on the city streets and the freeway too. That same poster also thought that bringing the Sonoma diesel commute trains to San Rafael would miraculously make all the pollution go away !

“Taste great in milk!”

Since: Aug 08

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#10 Feb 3, 2009
Fight for clean air wrote:
We can't even sit in our backyard because of our neighbor burning wood in their fireplace every day all day long. Just after one minute in the backyard our clothes smell and our lungs start to sting after about half an hour. Sometimes it seeps into our house, so there's no escape.
We are very concerned about our health because fine particulates can bypass the body’s natural defenses, penetrating deeply into the lungs and even passing into the bloodstream.
And yet cranking Your thermostat up, and using coal-fired/other detrimental power is just fine with You to keep warm, eh?

Folks NEED heat in the winter, and for some woodstoves are the only way to provide it for Their households.

You can always stop going into Your backyard, or just stop breathing, if it offends You sooo much.
Air Rights

Novato, CA

#11 Feb 3, 2009
Pulipaca wrote:
<quoted text>If you are really worried about air pollution, the first thing you should do is move out of San Rafael.
We had one poster on these forums who lives down in downtown between second and third street who claimed he has black soot on his kitchen counter every day from all the heavy traffic on the city streets and the freeway too. That same poster also thought that bringing the Sonoma diesel commute trains to San Rafael would miraculously make all the pollution go away !
The problem with our society is the entitlement people have. How about not adding to the pollution and refrain from having a fire at all??? Your comparison to SMART and the traffic on 101 makes no sense and the brilliant advice for this person to move is unrealistic. Chimney smoke is an annoyance and an unnecessary luxury.

The next time you are sitting by a camp fire and move when the smoke blows into your face and becomes too much to take then perhaps you'll have a little compassion for the resident in San Rafael who can't move from the smoke.

Since: Feb 08

Hana, HI

#12 Feb 3, 2009
Air Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with our society is the entitlement people have. How about not adding to the pollution and refrain from having a fire at all??? Your comparison to SMART and the traffic on 101 makes no sense and the brilliant advice for this person to move is unrealistic. Chimney smoke is an annoyance and an unnecessary luxury.
The next time you are sitting by a camp fire and move when the smoke blows into your face and becomes too much to take then perhaps you'll have a little compassion for the resident in San Rafael who can't move from the smoke.
Actually I don't like going to giant campgrounds where city folk gather and have fires night and even on hot days. It can get a little cold in the mountains camping , but we only have campfires if it is unexpectedly really cold, and then bail to a warmer area the next day. No I avoid those big honkin campgrounds that look like L.A. way up in the Sierras, people running their generators in their motorhomes to watch TV at night, polluting the air with their IC engines, just like at home in the flatlands.
sobergolfer

United States

#13 Feb 14, 2009
Fight for clean air wrote:
We can't even sit in our backyard because of our neighbor burning wood in their fireplace every day all day long. Just after one minute in the backyard our clothes smell and our lungs start to sting after about half an hour. Sometimes it seeps into our house, so there's no escape.
We are very concerned about our health because fine particulates can bypass the body’s natural defenses, penetrating deeply into the lungs and even passing into the bloodstream.
I agree! A few minutes outside of my home and my lungs hurt from the wood burning smoke next door.

Since: Feb 08

Hana, HI

#14 Feb 14, 2009
sobergolfer wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree! A few minutes outside of my home and my lungs hurt from the wood burning smoke next door.
If you love toxic smoke, then you should consider moving up to Novato. They are going to ressurect the old diesel freight trains this year, and the Sonoma commute trains will be comming in about 10 years.
They say these new diesel trains will scrub the air and what exaust they put out will be cleaner than the air from the freeway. And also the addition of all this new diesel smoke, noise and vibrations will make property values skyrocket with 3 miles of the tracks. Novato will become the new Belvedere, if they can somehow find a source of water that their daddy (Sonoma County) is soon to cut off.
rudd school

Fairfax, CA

#15 Feb 15, 2009
Mary White wrote:
I was born and raised in west marin, when I was young we used to be able to burn outside and then that got banned. PG&E rates went up and we replaced our fireplace with a wood burning stove so that we would have more efficient heat. The wood burning stove we had did not have a catilitic converter and did not burn clean enough. So we replaced our old stove with a new cleaner burning stove to comply with Marins demands. Now due to the complaints of a few individuals, heating your home with wood will soon be banned...
How about these few whining individuals stay in their homes or move. Why should the majority have to bow down for a few?
Actually, I want to leave California. I honestly believe people are worrying themselves to death.
Everything is bad for you--I don't want to live
my life in fear. A note to all Marinites that
walk around with masks on and are worried about
a little smoke: You will eventually die-- I honestly believe you will worry yourself to death.

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