Last-minute dollars flow into desalination measures

Last-minute donations pumped into the campaign to support Measure S have almost doubled its coffers, while rival Measure T also received an influx of cash as Marin voters weigh the future of desalination. Full Story
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Batman

San Rafael, CA

#2 Oct 29, 2010
vendors and consultants seeking to feed on the teat of government money
the corruption of SEIU campaign money buying favors now spreading beyond the BOS and city counvils to water districts
Fed Up

San Jose, CA

#3 Oct 29, 2010
Since Monday, the Measure S campaign has received $21,500 in contributions, including $5,000 from Kennedy/Jenks Consultants, which has worked with the Marin Municipal Water District on desalination.

Thank you IJ for shining a light on this...of course these dollars will flow in from these folks, because they'll reap the rewards later if Measure S passes and the current MMWD Board is re-elected.

Vote NO on S (scam) and YES on T (truth)
SusanAdamsMustGo

San Rafael, CA

#4 Oct 29, 2010
The money for the S campaign is dirty. Just like Adam's SEIU money.

Yes on T, No on S. Recall Adams.
Rhianne

Corte Madera, CA

#5 Oct 29, 2010
Now its clear who is supporting desal and measure S is pro desal.
Will we let these greedy people control our county?
This agency which is supposed be owned by the citizens is clearly in the pocket of the vested interests. They are banking on us being asleep.
They have complete contempt for us who are supposed to be their boss.
Its all now clear. Its about money and power and patronage, not good water policy.
PLEASE VOTE NO ON S.
YES ON T.

“Stop Desal & SMART!”

Since: Mar 09

San Rafael

#6 Oct 29, 2010
While I give the IJ some credit for reporting the truth about the money behind the obscene MMWD push for desalination (which is, after all, their job) we must not forget that the IJ editorial board is on the wrong side in this fight.

It is my view that Measure T - Truth - deserves a Yes vote. This is the measure that many thousands of Marinites signed the petition for, to get it on the ballot.

Measure S is a scam - look who supports it! The MMWD stuck it on the ballot with NO signatures from the public. They also put it ahead of T on the ballot... I'd call that of highly questionable morality. Measure S allows the MMWD to spend millions more on further costly "studies" of a boondoggle desalination plant. Drink water from the bay from an MMWD intake a mile from the sewage outfall? NO WAY!

NO on S. YES on T - the people's choice.
H2O man

San Francisco, CA

#7 Oct 30, 2010
The MMWD general manager has close ties with the one big company which is trying to get desal plants built all over California.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#8 Oct 30, 2010
The donations to the Measure S campaign come from entities who will eventually obtain contract or already have agreements with the current MMWD board or study and implement the district's desalination plans. Individual board members may have conflicts of interest if they receive contributions from these same fellows.
agree

San Anselmo, CA

#9 Oct 30, 2010
i agree, susan adams should be recalled.

She represents everything that is ugly about socialism and marxism.
Truth or Fiction

Palo Alto, CA

#10 Oct 30, 2010
Rothman and Egger survive on the age old tactic of inducing fear into the population through gross exaggerations and lies. Do we really want water board meetings that end at 2 or 3 in the morning? That's what Egger did to Fairfax and that's why he was tossed of the council. Rothmans chicken little the sky is falling rhetoric is dis-tasteful and untrue.
The current board, past boards and, even if the lunatic fringe is elected and we have a new board, will eventually need to face the reality of providing water to the people of Marin. Even the lunatics will need to confront the weighty issues of supply for people and water for the fish. God help us if that decision is left in the hands of near sighted elected officials.
When you get right down to the meat of it, the incumbents have impeccable environmental credentials. Egger delivered bread for a living. Research breads link to cancer and, using Rothman/Egger/Lacques/Rose tactics, one could conclude that Egger made his living delivering cancer causing white bread to our community for over thirty years. I kind of like this correlation. Frank, you're killing me..........
Chris

San Rafael, CA

#12 Oct 30, 2010
Measure S, placed on the ballot at the last second by a fearful MMWD Board hoping to retain the power to spend YOUR money after doing nothing for voter approval for 20 years...
Chris

San Rafael, CA

#13 Oct 30, 2010
agree wrote:
i agree, susan adams should be recalled.
She represents everything that is ugly about socialism and marxism.
Let's not labelize this, you could also say that she represents everything that is ugly about fascism and Capitalism.
Whatever, a petty bureaucrat that promotes a hidden agenda is a danger to Democracy.
Developer Greed

Mill Valley, CA

#14 Oct 30, 2010
Measure S received $21,500 from BIG Developer GREED:
$5,000 from Kennedy/Jenks desalt Consultants,
$5,000 from N.CA Carpenters,
$2,500 from Dutra Group - San Rafael Rock Quarry,
$1,500 from CH2MHill - wrote desalt EIR,
$1,500 from law firm - Remy,Thomas -defending EIR in court,
$1,000 from Marin Builders Assoc.

DeSalt means more Traffic and Crime.

YES ON = T =
Hank

United States

#16 Oct 30, 2010
Developer Greed wrote:
Measure S received $21,500 from BIG Developer GREED:
$5,000 from Kennedy/Jenks desalt Consultants,
$5,000 from N.CA Carpenters,
$2,500 from Dutra Group - San Rafael Rock Quarry,
$1,500 from CH2MHill - wrote desalt EIR,
$1,500 from law firm - Remy,Thomas -defending EIR in court,
$1,000 from Marin Builders Assoc.
DeSalt means more Traffic and Crime.
YES ON = T =
Not a single one of these organizations is a developer - even the Marin Builders Associaiton is mostly made up of companies who do renovations. Kennedy/Jenks and CH2MHill are environmental firms, as is Remy, Thomas (who mostly sue developers). So, trotting out the usual tripe about desalination being all about development just doesn't work. The fact is, Measure T is a direct threat to future reliability for MMWD's water supplies - which were hammered in 1977 to the point that they had to beg for water from Southern California.

Desalination means more traffic and crime? That's like saying that paving streets causes school crowding or auto dealerships to fail. Like saying a fish needs a bicycle.
No on S

Corte Madera, CA

#17 Oct 30, 2010
These desalting factory salesmen have a lot of our money invested in their pro-development urban sprawl scheme and they are worried.

Yes on Measure T so that our options truly remain open.

Full disclosure: I am a San Anselmo resident that is sick and tired of the corruption in local government
No on S

Corte Madera, CA

#18 Oct 30, 2010
Hank wrote:
...1977...
"Marin has experienced many multi year droughts that were relatively mild and in retrospect would not have necessitated rationing. The existing water supply and environmentally friendly options available to improved supply reliability can easily prepare us for mild multi year droughts. During the 1976-77 drought, MMWD received 22 inches and 25 inches in each respective year. A tree ring study, cited in MMWD planning documents, indicates that the two year 1976-77 drought of record is the most severe event in over 400 years. To cause serious problems, a future drought would need to consist of three consecutive years more severe than any three-year period in the 400-year tree ring record. It would also need to occur without occasional intense runoff events that are beneficial for collecting water into the local reservoirs and would provide benefits to customers practicing rain collection.
Unlike the other catastrophic events under consideration, a multi year drought would develop slowly allowing ample time for water users to adjust water use behavior. Per capita rationing allotments are unlikely to be less than 30 to 50 gallons per capita per day. Residents equipped with modern, water efficient fixtures can reduce their consumption to this level without extreme difficulty. With the recently enacted revised California graywater standards, it will be easier for residents to reuse some of their rationing allotment as graywater on their landscape.
While an unprecedented severe three-year drought event would provide much inconvenience and loss of high-water-use landscaping, it would not pose an immediate major risk to public health and safety." James Fryer

The IPCC's forecast models show that because of Climate Change, Marin County will experience an average of 5% to 10% more (not less) annual rainfall.

This on top of the fact that they have raised our rates because water usage has gone down and you really have to ask yourself what the expletive they are doing.

As has been shown they have already completed their desal plan, they have spent millions on that plan. They don't need to keep tossing money at it. It's done. There are a multitude of options if we confronted such unlikely weather.

Vote T so that we can keep our water options open.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#19 Oct 30, 2010
I agree with the WWF on the issue of desalination. It is not an answer to a problem, it is a problem. http://www.ocregister.com/news/water-203769-d...

"Impacts of desalination include brine build-up, increased greenhouse gas emissions, destruction of prized coastal areas and reduced emphasis on conservation of rivers and wetlands. Many of the areas of most intensive desalination activity also have a history of damaging natural water resources, particularly groundwater."

Also, keep in mind that desalting our bay would involve a lot more than brine, it would consist of a lot of very toxic pollutants.

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The truth about pharmaceuticals in our drinking water (nevermind our Bay for a moment) is that they are not a static item, they are very dynamic as the industry is constantly making new drugs. Water Municipalities do not even know what to look for, let alone know how to deal with it. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/20/hea...

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About our bay. There are so many hormone-disrupting chemicals in our bay that it is actually altering the sex of fish and other creatures. http://www.ewg.org/water/downthedrain/

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This is the proposed plants next door neighbor: http://richmondconfidential.org/2009/12/14/tw...

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Filters fail and what makes matters worse is that our Water municipalities do not even have the means to track let alone process the majority of injurious elements in our water. They do not know when the filters fail. Scientists have only recently found methods of tracing some (by no means all) elements http://toxics.usgs.gov/highlights/pharmaceuti...

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More on the health of the source they propose: http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_1625221... 2010 Pulse of the Estuary Report (PDF) http://www.ktvu.com/download/2010/1006/252952...

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Do they even know about gray water? An example is flushing your toilet with the water you washed your dishes in. Another is watering your lawn with your bathwater. Also, have they heard about catchment? In Marin, when it rains it pours. If we harvest that before it turns into runoff into our bay I don't see any need ever in our future to do as they propose. If any of you do, please share the population tipping point that you foresee, note the time imbalance between then and now and realize that by that time, the technology they are talking about buying today will be very antiquated by then.

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Indirect Potable Reuse (IPR) has an energy cost that is a fraction of desalination (reduced Co2 emissions as well). Also, IPR doesn't have the brine & chemical outfall that desalination has (limiting deadzones). Reticulated Potable Recycling (RPR) is another option.

Neither are needed, just expounding upon the fact that desalt is bad.

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People are using less water as is. So much so that they actually raised our rates. Think about that. Seriously think about it.

Vote for Measure T. T is for transparency, shining the light on their scheme, and keeping our options truly open. The MMWD already spent millions of our money on their factory research which is wholly unnecessary and extremely injurious. It was a waste.

Allowing them to keep their eye off the ball of water management and conservation by allowing them to continue wasting resources and money on their factory plan (which they have in fact completed) is all kinds of wrong. Again, with measure T they can still plan on their factory, they simply can not continue spending money on that particular plan (which they finished, hence do not even need to plan).
Chris

San Rafael, CA

#20 Oct 30, 2010
Hank wrote:
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Not a single one of these organizations is a developer - even the Marin Builders Associaiton is mostly made up of companies who do renovations. Kennedy/Jenks and CH2MHill are environmental firms, as is Remy, Thomas (who mostly sue developers). So, trotting out the usual tripe about desalination being all about development just doesn't work....
Desalination means more traffic and crime? That's like saying that paving streets causes school crowding or auto dealerships to fail. Like saying a fish needs a bicycle.
Nice pretense at playing dumb. Most people see through that.

Dutra sells aggregate to make concrete and asphalt. No development, no aggregate used except repaving jobs.
Marin Builders "does mostly renovations" Yeah, tear down cottages and build McMansions with 5 bathrooms,
"Environmental firms", aka consultants that produce huge expensive reports every time a new development is proposed,
"sue developers"=no development, no one to sue...

Desalination means more a much larger population and development is possible, thus more traffic, also when population grows you get more crime.

No on Scam, Yes on Truth...
Chris

San Rafael, CA

#21 Oct 30, 2010
Required, thank you for that masterful list of reasons to vote for T.

You forgot one wonderful resource:

http://www.oasisdesign.net/

Enough material here for the most ambitious DIYourselfer or contractor to create an easily buildable grey water system.
Helen Turnbull

San Rafael, CA

#22 Oct 30, 2010
Use less water, recycle grey water. Period.
No on S.
E-Howard

San Francisco, CA

#23 Oct 30, 2010
When-not if-the next drought hits,where will the water come from?
If you voted yes for the smart train,you voted for the over development of
Marin.

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