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“Know thyself.”

Since: Sep 10

Murfreesboro, TN

#41 Jun 28, 2012
Truth hurts sometimes wrote:
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You could have the most educated group of people on Earth in wise county, once they finish their schooling, they would still have to leave if they wanted a job. New schools, teachers, do not equate education, nor do education centers equate more jobs. On private business willing to bring jobs to this area would fix that. Can you name any incentive for anyone to start a business here?
Well for one thing: Cheap Labor. Because the cost of living here is lower then other places in the country. Another thing: Land. Plenty of places to build facilities. Unlike more congested parts of the country. Another thing: Workforce. Plenty of people here needing work. There's 3.
Nuts

Madison, TN

#42 Jun 29, 2012
Blank wrote:
<quoted text>You are so clueless...mountaintop removal recovers LESS coal than regular mining and hires FEWER people than regular mining too!! Amd "reclaiming" is a joke...the habitat is detroyed and the watershed poisoned, and if you think there is much "reclaiming" done, thgen you have obvously not see the moonscape that a lot of West Virginia is becoming! The toxic chemicals that coal mines produce seep into water tables and are responsible for numerous cancer deaths, but you seem unconerned as long as it is not YOU being affected! But let YOUR kids get asthma and cancer and you can use your warped logic on THEM
You saying all these people getting cancer where is the proof and not proof from the tree Hugger's website, real proof. And exactly what chemicals are getting into the water table, diesel? Well I'm pretty sure that and grease and motor oil is the only chemicals used as far as equipment and taking that away will do nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of cars on the road that leak, and the explosives they use is nothing that's going to do anything if so then they wouldn't use it to blow up buildings in the city's when they decide to rebuild but you people are like Hitler with all your propaganda.
Budd Strange

Nashville, TN

#43 Jun 29, 2012
Nuts wrote:
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You saying all these people getting cancer where is the proof and not proof from the tree Hugger's website, real proof. And exactly what chemicals are getting into the water table, diesel? Well I'm pretty sure that and grease and motor oil is the only chemicals used as far as equipment and taking that away will do nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of cars on the road that leak, and the explosives they use is nothing that's going to do anything if so then they wouldn't use it to blow up buildings in the city's when they decide to rebuild but you people are like Hitler with all your propaganda.
What you people don't understand is Blank and his fellow communist-Americans don't want any of that--no cars, no roads, no equipment etc.

In their wildest/wettest dreams, America will look and work like China did from the 1950s-1990s. You will build your own mud thatch hut and, if you're lucky, you will be the proud owner of a "fixie" (fixed gear bicycle.) You will then do as you're told and go to work in the rice fields seven days a week in constant fear of the iron fist of your dictator.

Now of course you must know that they, the elite--and Blank definitely sees himself as just that, won't be living anything like that. Just us because, you know, it's "green" and everything.

Make no mistake about it: Green is the new Red and you can take that to the bank.

“Know thyself.”

Since: Sep 10

Murfreesboro, TN

#44 Jun 29, 2012
Budd Strange wrote:
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What you people don't understand is Blank and his fellow communist-Americans don't want any of that--no cars, no roads, no equipment etc.
In their wildest/wettest dreams, America will look and work like China did from the 1950s-1990s. You will build your own mud thatch hut and, if you're lucky, you will be the proud owner of a "fixie" (fixed gear bicycle.) You will then do as you're told and go to work in the rice fields seven days a week in constant fear of the iron fist of your dictator.
Now of course you must know that they, the elite--and Blank definitely sees himself as just that, won't be living anything like that. Just us because, you know, it's "green" and everything.
Make no mistake about it: Green is the new Red and you can take that to the bank.
A bit overdramatic aren't cha?

I love how people throw words like Communist and Socialism around while supporting such things themselves. I bet you buy shit made in China all the time.

So someone disagrees with you about "green" and you retort by exaggeration and calling people Communist.

I think you should thank your Communist loving politicians and companies for sending a large portion of American jobs overseas because they don't want to do right by the very people who buy their products.

Apparently "we" Americans are good enough to spend all our money buying all this shit that these rich A-holes throw at us that they pay the Chinese to make, but we aren't good enough to pay a decent wage with decent benefits too so that more of us can afford to buy their shit.

You know that is why something that cost $8 to make, like an IPAD is sold to YOU the consumer in this country at around $500 dollars while the Communist Chinese you are talking about make a few cents on the hours and suffer health problems as a result of being overworked.

If you want to do something about Communism, stop calling other American people names for having opinions, and start boycotting these companies and politicians that support sending US jobs overseas. But nah, no one is going to do that...because they want that shit too bad in their homes and they have "coal mining" jobs so they can afford it while not caring if anyone else here has a decent job making a liveable income. Then they can turn their noses up and act like everyone else is beneath them that doesn't make 20+ dollars an hour and then bitch and moan to everyone else around them and tell them to get behind them and support them when it's "their" jobs on the line to disappear.

Not likely

Norton, VA

#45 Jul 3, 2012
Wretched Cherub wrote:
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Well for one thing: Cheap Labor. Because the cost of living here is lower then other places in the country. Another thing: Land. Plenty of places to build facilities. Unlike more congested parts of the country. Another thing: Workforce. Plenty of people here needing work. There's 3.
The cost of living is lower cause there are no jobs. Land? try to buy a lot big enough to put a factory on. Only flat land are old strip jobs, you know those places you bitch about? Hopefully the landowners of those strip jobs will tell them to go to hell. If the coal must stay in the ground, let the whole place rot.

Workforce? doing what? testing prescriptions? or finding the post office? don't see to many job offers for either of those.

“Know thyself.”

Since: Sep 10

Murfreesboro, TN

#46 Jul 3, 2012
Not likely wrote:
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The cost of living is lower cause there are no jobs. Land? try to buy a lot big enough to put a factory on. Only flat land are old strip jobs, you know those places you bitch about? Hopefully the landowners of those strip jobs will tell them to go to hell. If the coal must stay in the ground, let the whole place rot.
Workforce? doing what? testing prescriptions? or finding the post office? don't see to many job offers for either of those.
Some people are just "naysayers" and this is why "progress" can not occur when you have a naysayer in charge of anything. When you have people who believe in possibilities and who are innovative in charge, then you will have progress. As long as there are a majority of people with your attitude, this place will always be a cesspool. If this is the case? What is the point of those new schools they are building for the kids? It will raise property taxes, make it harder for the region's poor/middle class to take care of kids and provide for them. And then what? The kids will get an education and will get out of school, have no where to work, no money to leave here on, will sink into depression and despair because they will not be able to be productive people. They will have no economical choices, and then out of despair and realizing there is no point to anything but finding comfort in whatever comes their way at the moment, will turn to drugs and alcohol. And the cycle will continue on and on while people like you sit around naysaying, being judgmental of the people in your community, and continuing to put all the economical eggs in one basket while not caring about the bigger picture. Why the heck even place an emphasis on education in this area if all any anyone is ever going to be or amount to working as a coalminer underground for 5 or 6 days a week? Seems like a waste to me. Oh wait...maybe it's because in reality, people want more options for their children?
Nuts

Madison, TN

#47 Jul 4, 2012
Wretched Cherub wrote:
<quoted text>Some people are just "naysayers" and this is why "progress" can not occur when you have a naysayer in charge of anything. When you have people who believe in possibilities and who are innovative in charge, then you will have progress. As long as there are a majority of people with your attitude, this place will always be a cesspool. If this is the case? What is the point of those new schools they are building for the kids? It will raise property taxes, make it harder for the region's poor/middle class to take care of kids and provide for them. And then what? The kids will get an education and will get out of school, have no where to work, no money to leave here on, will sink into depression and despair because they will not be able to be productive people. They will have no economical choices, and then out of despair and realizing there is no point to anything but finding comfort in whatever comes their way at the moment, will turn to drugs and alcohol. And the cycle will continue on and on while people like you sit around naysaying, being judgmental of the people in your community, and continuing to put all the economical eggs in one basket while not caring about the bigger picture. Why the heck even place an emphasis on education in this area if all any anyone is ever going to be or amount to working as a coalminer underground for 5 or 6 days a week? Seems like a waste to me. Oh wait...maybe it's because in reality, people want more options for their children?
I'm all for bringing things to this area but leave the one job we have at the moment, that keeps this area going alone until then!
Not likely

Norton, VA

#48 Jul 5, 2012
Wretched Cherub wrote:
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One of these days whether people want to face it or not...coal will be gone. Because it's not a renewable resource. It's a process of fossilizing plant matter that took millions of years for it to form into mineral under compression.
And I'm not biting any hands, I am just being realistic. One of these days...COAL will be gone. Just like everything else. That's the way the world works.
Yes it will, somewhere around 2160, so why put everyone out of work today? How does that make any sense at all?
Not likely

Norton, VA

#49 Jul 5, 2012
Wretched Cherub wrote:
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Some people are just "naysayers" and this is why "progress" can not occur when you have a naysayer in charge of anything. When you have people who believe in possibilities and who are innovative in charge, then you will have progress. As long as there are a majority of people with your attitude, this place will always be a cesspool. If this is the case? What is the point of those new schools they are building for the kids? It will raise property taxes, make it harder for the region's poor/middle class to take care of kids and provide for them. And then what? The kids will get an education and will get out of school, have no where to work, no money to leave here on, will sink into depression and despair because they will not be able to be productive people. They will have no economical choices, and then out of despair and realizing there is no point to anything but finding comfort in whatever comes their way at the moment, will turn to drugs and alcohol. And the cycle will continue on and on while people like you sit around naysaying, being judgmental of the people in your community, and continuing to put all the economical eggs in one basket while not caring about the bigger picture. Why the heck even place an emphasis on education in this area if all any anyone is ever going to be or amount to working as a coalminer underground for 5 or 6 days a week? Seems like a waste to me. Oh wait...maybe it's because in reality, people want more options for their children?
I agree but not for the reason you might think. The WORSE decision the county ever made was putting the people into debt over $65,000,000. You might not like coal, but honey child coal is what pays the bills. Have you any clue how much the county depends on the coal severance tax? As it drys up and the bills come due this is what you will see. Minors moving and attempting to sale their homes. No one will buy cause there are no jobs. More homes will hit the market, tax rates will drop due to lower property values, but the amount of taxes needed will skyrocket to pay for Perry's playthings. As the minors go, so do the support jobs, tires, fuel, trucking, insurance, suppliers, one after the other after the other until the only thing left are the welfare cheats, the pill heads and big new empty schools that can not be paid for. Then what? Then what will the kids who remain do? when they all go to one school, teachers are laid off, bus drivers laid off, the town's can't fix the roads nor anything else. It didn't have to be this way. Coal could have been phased out over the next 20-30 years, with the Fed. gov. working WITH the areas to encourage new growth and job opportunities, but Obama would have it that way, his own EPA adm. made it clear, we need to 'crucify' the coal operators, and that is what they are doing.
The Baron

Brentwood, TN

#50 Jul 6, 2012
King Coal wrote:
Natural Gas will not stay at the current price. It will go back up, no doubt about it. You are right that private enterprise is also a catalyst in the decline of the coal market. However, you should also be able to admit that UMACT rule and cap and trade (which was imposed on the American people behind their backs by the EPA) is also having an effect. UMACT and cap and trade will be the foes of coal for years to come if not overturned. The price of natural gas will only have a short-term effect on coal. Besides, America is not going to stop mining coal just because electricity providers switch the NG. We'll still be mining (underground and MTR) to supply Asia and others. Coal companies are already planning to build ports to ship yet another of our resources overseas. If America will not use it's coal for the good of it's people, than China will.
Natural gas won't go up very much in price. Natural gas will stay low in price for years. And nat. gas doesn't produce ash.
go listen

Radford, VA

#51 Jul 6, 2012
I came across a new song about coal today. It has info
in the video, that I didn't know. Look up Reagan Boggs on face book and listen.
go listen

Radford, VA

#52 Jul 6, 2012
I had to go and look up the name of the song. It's called " You can't live on pride"
Sick crap

Norton, VA

#53 Jul 10, 2012
The Baron wrote:
<quoted text>Natural gas won't go up very much in price. Natural gas will stay low in price for years. And nat. gas doesn't produce ash.
And its right in the cross hairs of Obama's EPA and the Sierra club.

Dirty, dangerous, and run amok

Natural gas drillers exploit government loopholes, ignore decades-old environmental protections, and disregard the health of entire communities. "Fracking," a violent process that dislodges gas deposits from shale rock formations is known to contaminate drinking water, pollute the air, and cause earthquakes. If drillers can’t extract natural gas without destroying landscapes and endangering the health of families, then we should not drill for natural gas.

“Fossil fuels have no part in America’s energy future – coal, oil, and natural gas are literally poisoning us. The emergence of natural gas as a significant part of our energy mix is particularly frightening because it dangerously postpones investment in clean energy at a time when we should be doubling down on wind, solar and energy efficiency.”
—Robin Mann, Sierra Club President
The Baron

Brentwood, TN

#54 Jul 10, 2012
Sick crap wrote:
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And its right in the cross hairs of Obama's EPA and the Sierra club.
Dirty, dangerous, and run amok
Natural gas drillers exploit government loopholes, ignore decades-old environmental protections, and disregard the health of entire communities. "Fracking," a violent process that dislodges gas deposits from shale rock formations is known to contaminate drinking water, pollute the air, and cause earthquakes. If drillers can’t extract natural gas without destroying landscapes and endangering the health of families, then we should not drill for natural gas.
“Fossil fuels have no part in America’s energy future – coal, oil, and natural gas are literally poisoning us. The emergence of natural gas as a significant part of our energy mix is particularly frightening because it dangerously postpones investment in clean energy at a time when we should be doubling down on wind, solar and energy efficiency.”
—Robin Mann, Sierra Club President
Natural gas is the fuel of the future!
What

Madison, TN

#55 Jul 10, 2012
The Baron wrote:
<quoted text>Natural gas is the fuel of the future!
Keep dreaming, I don't know where you get your information, but mine says by next year coal will be cheaper to make electric than gas!
The Baron

Brentwood, TN

#56 Jul 10, 2012
What wrote:
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Keep dreaming, I don't know where you get your information, but mine says by next year coal will be cheaper to make electric than gas!
By next year most coal mines in Virginia will be out of business. Do a little research and you'll see I'am right.
keep it real

Murfreesboro, TN

#57 Jul 10, 2012
seriously i must ask ..... are you all just NOW figuring this out ???? DUH !!!!!!!!!! i've seen this coming for years as the epa has been gunning for shutting down the coal industry for decades now .... but you all just go ahead & keep voting the way your voting & you won't even have gas to drive to go vote next time !!! the democrats have done NOTHING to help the coal industry !!! you all just had to keep voting in Boucher how many times ??? enough times for you all to now realize he was destroying our industries locally & spending our tax dollars to keep northern va going ...
King Coal

United States

#58 Jul 11, 2012
The Baron wrote:
<quoted text> Natural gas is the fuel of the future!
Looks like you need to do your own research. As another poster already stated, the EPA and the Sierra Club are going after NG and fracking next. They are calling it "Beyond Natural Gas". Sound familiar?

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