School districts prepare for cuts

School districts prepare for cuts

There are 15 comments on the Gloversville Leader-Herald story from Apr 1, 2011, titled School districts prepare for cuts. In it, Gloversville Leader-Herald reports that:

The Mayfield and Northville school districts are preparing for staff and program reductions despite the restoration of some state aid.

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New York, NY

#1 Apr 9, 2011
They need to Merge Northville Mayfield and Wells schools in to one. Only 2 oe 3 kids to one class room in each school.
Northville resident

United States

#2 Apr 10, 2011
I think Northville School should cut back by having only one principal. Its not like it is a large school. What is the need for 2? The superintendent needs to go as well. There should only be 1 for the county to look over all the schools. They need to stop sending kids to the alternative school for a day here and a day there and get rid of the teachers aids in the high school classes. If anything cut out pre k not kindergarten.
They are saying that a merger would only help for a year or 2. I dont see how that could be true.
Lets see if the superintendent really takes a pay freeze this time. I guess she took the 3 percent raise last year but yet she told everyone she took the freeze.
Serious Question

Syracuse, NY

#3 Apr 10, 2011
How about closing Wheelerville too? What is the point of keeping this school open? Can someone tell me? 2 or 3 kids in the kindergarten class!!! Why doesn't the state wake up and consolidate schools like this?
Northville resident

United States

#4 Apr 10, 2011
What does the state really care? All they want to do is raise our taxes and tax the hell out of everything to make up for everything else. I think that merging schools would be the best solution for all of this but do you think it would really happen? I know that they were talking about the merger with Northville and Mayfield. Were they talking about including Wells? You would think that Wheelerville would be with Johnstown. Isnt it closer?
I dont know. This is all a mess. Teachers at Northville are telling the kids that they wouldnt be suprised if Northville school just closed down. If they are that much in debt they need to start doing some major cut backs and not just sports and votec. They are just taking away the things that kids look forward to. I would not be suprised if we see alot more dropouts if they keep taking away from the kids. It seems that they are not worried about our kids future. They are looking for an easy fix for themselves.
something to consider

Gloversville, NY

#5 Apr 13, 2011
I don't teach in any of these schools, but I am a high school teacher, and I will point out that many times the aides in the high school classrooms are mandated by the state (but not funded) for classes with a certain number of "pushed in" special needs/special education students. The Aides don't help the teacher, grade anything, or do any of the work required. They are there simply as a one-on-one support to those students who have I.E.Ps (aka Individual Education Programs) based upon tested learning disabilities that qualify them for special education services.

There is so much that goes into education that is mandated by the state but not funded that it would make the heads of most people who aren't in the educational field spin. Individual school districts are left to figure out how to pay for it all, and if they don't and end up out of compliance they can lose all state funding.

It's rarely as easy as it looks from the outside to make cuts.
something to consider

Gloversville, NY

#6 Apr 14, 2011
Here's an article touching upon just some of the mandates the drive costs so high:

No child Left Behind is another headache that does little to improve performance or educational quality...teachers become focused on the test (by necessity, as if students don't score well enough on the State tests, the school is listed as "in need of improvement" and loses funding). Students are learning how to take tests and the limited information on them. Want to expand that unit in history and allow kids to experience a craft or activity related to the historical period? Too bad, we have to move on to the next piece of the unit and more memorization and content cramming to get through what's required for "the test".

Education is becoming a "one size fits all" with no creativity proposition in this country, and I, for one, am a little frightened at what our nation seems to be placing value on, as opposed to real learning, thinking, and creating. There is no longer any time, since everyone has to prepare their kid to try to be successful on these tests (and that includes ALL kids - special education kids aren't excluded, though some of them are functioning at a 2nd and 3rd grade reading level in HS. The scores they receive on the State tests still "count" in terms of how the state perceives the district's and teachers' "success" rate.

It's a real shame.
old timer

Gloversville, NY

#7 Apr 15, 2011
Unfortunately, state mandates and testing are making our schools strive for mediocrity rather
than excellence. While other countries are turn-
out students who will become doctors and engineers
we are turning out students who can meet state
testing requirements. It is a real shame.

Pittsfield, MA

#8 Apr 27, 2011
let's not loose focus on the cause of the problem that has been creeping up on us for years, UNIONS and the dirty son of a @##$# that agree to the terms of such rediculous contracts. the problem is payroll and the super gets to much, it is a $80k job and the teachers who have been there to long can be replaced for less than 1/2.
there needs to be a set hiring wage and a cap to each position, period...
Paid sick and personel time is bs. they have plenty of time off as it is and get paid a years salery for 1/2 a years work.
Our teachers for the most part a great.
Did you know the speculator high schoolers get trans fered to johnstown? there is no high school in speculator!!! Why not here along with wells.

Pittsfield, MA

#9 Apr 27, 2011
Hey did the board finnally ask what the unions were willing to give? I know at the meeting they asked what the tax payers were will to pay more.
Why did the board not fight the unions on a lot of issuse before seeing if we would first pay the whole bill? I did budgets for years and the first thing to do was to get rid of high paid asst. to trade for 2 full timers and 2 part timers. Thats like by principle and hello teachers then cut the salery of the music teacher opps I mean the superatendent to $80k.

Pittsfield, MA

#10 Apr 27, 2011
shut up pay the taxes!!! do it for the kids!!
Northville resident

Speculator, NY

#11 Apr 28, 2011
check out this website
It shows how much the teachers, principal and superintendent makes. No wonder the school is in debt.
Also this artilce in the Leader Herald.
Tripple Crown

New York, NY

#12 Apr 30, 2011
They need to merge a few schools not just 2) to save tax $. We are getting killed with to many teachers, heating schools that are 1/8 filled and paying for electric.

Merge 3 or 4 schools and the class size will still only be 16 to 18 kids to a clas. we sell off the old schools and save in Heat bills and electric bills plus all the extra salarys.
Not so simple as it seems

Queensbury, NY

#13 May 2, 2011
Take a look at this. If you read it (all the way through) and consider what it says, I'd like to hear opinions on it. It makes sense to me. It seems more and more like the system is broken, and we're blaming and punishing the wrong people.
Typical B-P Parent

Guilderland, NY

#14 May 5, 2011
How about how B-P school district is raising our taxes AGAIN, even though we clearly cannot afford to keep doing it? Why not get rid of our superintendent, consolidate with Mayfield or Galway, get rid of alternative schools such as Boces facilities/contracts, and get rid of sports? Make kids play local teams, not bus them an hour or more away, waste of gas, taxpayers' money, and time. Way too fancy nowadays, with new uniforms every year, dinners out, etc. Get rid of older, tenured teachers who don't perform, hire new, eager ones. Make a dress code for teachers as well as students, bring some pride back for education, not sports. Huge athletic fieldfor a Class D school, freaking waste of our money. Board of Ed, should be repealed, get rid of them, have taxpayers take turn hearing the issues and deciding them, not nontaxpayers or teachers' spouses. Sick of TAXES, sick of Stupidity, sick of Teachers Unions. I pay deductibles, they should, too!
George K

Chicago, IL

#15 Jan 12, 2012
Combine 3 of the schools in to one. Northville, Wells and Mayfield all need to be combined in to one school. Maybe some gloverville students we can get also.

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