Police ID adult who drowned at NJ beach

Its a shame they drowned, but, thats why lifeguards are at the beach. It was foolish to swim when the lifeguards were off duty.
RIP

Why

Why do people think they can outsmart the mighty ocean at a time like that? People never learn from all of the times that people drowned under those circumstances. I am so sorry for the woman and the young girl, and my prayers to the family.

Since: Mar 07

4,765

Un-protected beaches are a death-trap, point-blank.

Even when lifeguards are present, people can get swept away by riptides, and if they haven't been taught how to deal with them, they're gone.

I have been a certified Master SCUBA diver for over 20 years, and I have been caught in rips - only 20 yards from shore.

They're no joke.

People wade into the surf, slowly at first, and think that it's no different from the town swimming pool.

These people have no idea what they're facing.

A "strong swimmer" can make headway against a 3mph current.

Most riptides are orders-of-magnitude greater than that.

If you have to enter the water at an unprotected beach, anything more than ankle-deep is a crap-shoot. Knee-deep current can take you out.

Ray Sist

"Jamilah" lol. Is she the sister of Sheniqua?

Why

Dennis Mac wrote:

Un-protected beaches are a death-trap, point-blank.
Even when lifeguards are present, people can get swept away by riptides, and if they haven't been taught how to deal with them, they're gone.
I have been a certified Master SCUBA diver for over 20 years, and I have been caught in rips - only 20 yards from shore.
They're no joke.
People wade into the surf, slowly at first, and think that it's no different from the town swimming pool.
These people have no idea what they're facing.
A "strong swimmer" can make headway against a 3mph current.
Most riptides are orders-of-magnitude greater than that.
If you have to enter the water at an unprotected beach, anything more than ankle-deep is a crap-shoot. Knee-deep current can take you out.

This is such valuable info! It scares the heck out of me. Why doesn't the state, or each town along the shore, post these exact words you just said, instead of Danger, or No Lifeguard. No one will go within 30 feet of the ocean!

joe poli

AOL

Dennis Mac, you are correct; I was in the Coast Guard and the first thing I learned was the ocean is an unforgiving place. The ocean lulls people into submission and when they least expect it the tide takes over or a storm rises.

We spent lots of time looking for victims that thought they could take a 15 foot Sears outboard into the ocean. Some were never found. People who respect nature, don't die in these types of accidents.

I pray for the families that are left behind to mourn.

isthisit

Bethlehem, PA

may peace be with you

kathy65

Bangor, PA

Dennis Mac wrote:

Un-protected beaches are a death-trap, point-blank.
Even when lifeguards are present, people can get swept away by riptides, and if they haven't been taught how to deal with them, they're gone.
I have been a certified Master SCUBA diver for over 20 years, and I have been caught in rips - only 20 yards from shore.
They're no joke.
People wade into the surf, slowly at first, and think that it's no different from the town swimming pool.
These people have no idea what they're facing.
A "strong swimmer" can make headway against a 3mph current.
Most riptides are orders-of-magnitude greater than that.
If you have to enter the water at an unprotected beach, anything more than ankle-deep is a crap-shoot. Knee-deep current can take you out.

Thanks so much for this info. My husband got caught up this past weekend at Island Beach..and had a hard time..a friend helped him...and we only swim with the guards.

Dennis..we lost a good friend to scuba diving a few years back too...his buddy looked back and he was gone...never to be found!B careful!!

Get Real

Philadelphia, PA

Why wrote:

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This is such valuable info! It scares the heck out of me. Why doesn't the state, or each town along the shore, post these exact words you just said, instead of Danger, or No Lifeguard. No one will go within 30 feet of the ocean!

I would guess that the average person who would swim at the shore with no lifeguard is not going to take the time to read the signs. How long has the state been warning of the dangers of quarry swimming only to have people ignore the warnings and drown?

It is unfortunate, but there are those amongst us who do not heed simple warnings.

Since: Mar 07

4,765

Why wrote:

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This is such valuable info! It scares the heck out of me. Why doesn't the state, or each town along the shore, post these exact words you just said, instead of Danger, or No Lifeguard. No one will go within 30 feet of the ocean!

Anyone entering the water should know the dangers.

Are you REALLY asking for "Laws" to be enacted to ptotect you?

Since: Mar 07

4,765

The shoreline is a dangerous place.

If you have small children who enjoy gathering shells,...... take them to an inland shore.

No One, but a strong swimmer should ever venture beyond the surf.

Why

Dennis Mac wrote:

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Anyone entering the water should know the dangers.
Are you REALLY asking for "Laws" to be enacted to ptotect you?

Don't fly off the handle about having laws...I just merely wondered about it as a possibility. Just giving a thought. People are drawn to water, especially the ocean, but those who may not go but every few years or more, may have no clue about what could happen. They might think they will be safe up to the knees. Just because you are an "expert", doesn't mean you should think that everyone on the planet should know that wading past your ankles could be far enough to get caught in a riptide. Everyone thinks they will be safe, they will be careful, etc., just like these two 'waders' who died.

Since: Mar 07

4,765

Why wrote:

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Don't fly off the handle about having laws...I just merely wondered about it as a possibility. Just giving a thought. People are drawn to water, especially the ocean, but those who may not go but every few years or more, may have no clue about what could happen. They might think they will be safe up to the knees. Just because you are an "expert", doesn't mean you should think that everyone on the planet should know that wading past your ankles could be far enough to get caught in a riptide. Everyone thinks they will be safe, they will be careful, etc., just like these two 'waders' who died.

Our planet is approximately 70% covered by oceans.

If a few people don't know anything about the oceans, they should not be walking into them.

People are "drawn" to water?
Moths are "drawn" to a flame.

Can't people be smarter than moths?

Why

Dennis Mac wrote:

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Our planet is approximately 70% covered by oceans.
If a few people don't know anything about the oceans, they should not be walking into them.
People are "drawn" to water?
Moths are "drawn" to a flame.
Can't people be smarter than moths?

I know tons of people who have never seen the ocean. I quess I had better never go to the shore ever again, or tell people not to go because they are not super knowledgeable like you. What does land mass have to do with ocean sizes, and people should know these things beacause of that. I learned that all in grade school. Whoop. So what is you point? Big deal...you are a skin diver, and an arrogant one at that. That makes you the expert.

JoisyGirl

Since: Mar 07

2,989

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This is sad but why do the tourists keep doing this? This is nothing new for them to go out when a lifeguard isn't there. Par for the course, just another tourist filled summer at the shore.

Tyrone Shoelaces

Schnecksville, PA

Get Real wrote:

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It is unfortunate, but there are those amongst us who do not heed simple warnings.

Exactly. Let the fools die foolishly. Let them think that they are invincible and experience the consequences for their stupid behavior. The sooner they are all gone, the safer the planet will be for those of us smart enough, and responsible enough, to obey the laws...of society and of mother nature!

Bonus points here for being named "Jamilah". Lovely, just lovely. Thanks, Jamilah's parents, for giving her a name that automatically brands her with a negative impression from the rest of us with normal names.

Since: Mar 07

4,765

Why wrote:

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I know tons of people who have never seen the ocean. I quess I had better never go to the shore ever again, or tell people not to go because they are not super knowledgeable like you.

Why not gather-up all your "people" who have never seen an ocean, take them to an unprotected beach, and swim out past the breakers?

You said yourself in a previous post that you can't understand why people don't respect the ocean.

Because they're "Stupid".

Why

Dearie, yada, yada...you just get more sickening as your posts go on....or should I say...stupid. This is the second time in your posts that you twisted things around that I said, for your benefit. I think you've been under water too much! Go pound sand.

Since: Mar 07

4,765

Why wrote:

Dearie, yada, yada...you just get more sickening as your posts go on....or should I say...stupid. This is the second time in your posts that you twisted things around that I said, for your benefit. I think you've been under water too much! Go pound sand.

I haven't "twisted" anything. You have.

I talked about the dangers of swimming at unprotected beaches; something every first-grader knows.

You insinuated that I meant not to go within 30 feet of the water.

Like everyone else, you will do whatever you want to do.

I just hope your stupidity doesn't cost you or any of your "people" their life.

I have over 4,000 hours logged in dives, including wrecks, reefs, beaches, jetties, caverns, and mines.

The reason I'm alive is that I never exceeded my abilities.

Go do whatever you want.

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