Ruben Rosario: Cops' seat-belt sting did the job. But was it ri...

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The FBI had Donnie Brasco, the undercover agent who infiltrated the mob. Maplewood police have "Homeless Harry" - my moniker for the undercover cop who last weekend bagged a completely different kind of outlaw.

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reed

Duluth, MN

#403 Mar 18, 2010
I AM REED MAN wrote:
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I reddly getted it erler so yeh on paker go!
learn to spell
reed

Duluth, MN

#404 Mar 18, 2010
I AM A RED MAN wrote:
Gon indians gone to bowle with yeh
yey and yeh a new fudgie theme now?
Alien Commentator

Milwaukee, WI

#407 Mar 20, 2010
The funny thing about it is, the cops most likely didn't even have to disguise themselves to accomplish their goal of revenue generation. A fully uniformed officer peering into car windows as they passed by would certainly not have caused most of the mindless unbuckled to buckle up. And if they did, perhaps avoiding a ticket, then the cops would have achieved what should be their real goal in the first place... public safety.
But But But

Plymouth, MN

#408 Mar 20, 2010
Alien Commentator wrote:
The funny thing about it is, the cops most likely didn't even have to disguise themselves to accomplish their goal of revenue generation. A fully uniformed officer peering into car windows as they passed by would certainly not have caused most of the mindless unbuckled to buckle up. And if they did, perhaps avoiding a ticket, then the cops would have achieved what should be their real goal in the first place... public safety.

It's NOT about public safety.

In fact years ago California did a study comparing traffic when "Marked" cars and "Unmarked" police cars are used. They determined traffic slowed down more when "Marked" crs were used because motorists viewed the "Marked" cars and slowed down.

However notice the Minnesota State Patrol is using a high number of "Unmarked" cars. Make sense? NO!

Minnesota is the "Brainpower State", NOT.

IDIOTS!!!!!
No spin zone

Forest Lake, MN

#409 Mar 22, 2010
Alien Commentator wrote:
The funny thing about it is, the cops most likely didn't even have to disguise themselves to accomplish their goal of revenue generation. A fully uniformed officer peering into car windows as they passed by would certainly not have caused most of the mindless unbuckled to buckle up. And if they did, perhaps avoiding a ticket, then the cops would have achieved what should be their real goal in the first place... public safety.
Clap clap clap.....so people how don't buckle up are mind-less? Were you drinking when you wrote this? And how is the fact that someone Not wearing their seat belt harms someone else? Well unless they fly out the window and hit someone. But that would be their choice in a FREE country. O but wait the Left wing dependent on someone for help has taken over.
reed

Duluth, MN

#411 Mar 22, 2010
the police have become the thugs forcing us to abide by pointless rules while they become too cowardly to go after real criminals, oh and the payoffs why hurt payroll. Anyone hear about the new law the dems are trying to pass no smoking in the car while their is a bayby in the car, the Rule goes up to age 18! another way for cops to get paid, stupid chicago style thugs

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#412 Mar 22, 2010
But But But wrote:
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It's NOT about public safety.
In fact years ago California did a study comparing traffic when "Marked" cars and "Unmarked" police cars are used. They determined traffic slowed down more when "Marked" crs were used because motorists viewed the "Marked" cars and slowed down.
However notice the Minnesota State Patrol is using a high number of "Unmarked" cars. Make sense? NO!
Minnesota is the "Brainpower State", NOT.
IDIOTS!!!!!
If the objective is Public Safety, then obviously marked squad cars are the way to go. You may recall that "Governor Goofy" Rudy Perpich ended the use of unmarked State Patrol cars for this very reason.

If the objective is to write tickets with stealth enforcement vehicles, then unmarked cars are the way to go.

Hmmmmm.
But But But

Plymouth, MN

#413 Mar 22, 2010
IMHO this seat belt sting was motivated by some guys wanting to check out the chests of women in cars with seat belts separating their breasts.
al bundy

Duluth, MN

#414 Mar 22, 2010
Nooner Guy wrote:
Well buckle up guys....I really dont feel sorry for anyone getting picked up on this one.
stop disgracing my face
Bad Boy Bad Boy

Circle Pines, MN

#415 Mar 22, 2010
Madaman wrote:
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If the objective is Public Safety, then obviously marked squad cars are the way to go. You may recall that "Governor Goofy" Rudy Perpich ended the use of unmarked State Patrol cars for this very reason.
If the objective is to write tickets with stealth enforcement vehicles, then unmarked cars are the way to go.
Hmmmmm.
No, only you would remember Rudy Perpich. All the rest of are under 80 and have a life.

Keep posting maybe you will win the Pulitzer Post Prize.

Shut up...

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#416 Mar 22, 2010
Bad Boy Bad Boy wrote:
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No, only you would remember Rudy Perpich. All the rest of are under 80 and have a life.
Keep posting maybe you will win the Pulitzer Post Prize.
Shut up...
Oh, pleez! Rudy was an 1980's happening -- no need to rely on octogenarians to remember him.

You are welcome!
Bad Boy Bad Boy

Circle Pines, MN

#417 Mar 22, 2010
Madaman wrote:
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Oh, pleez! Rudy was an 1980's happening -- no need to rely on octogenarians to remember him.
You are welcome!
Oh please! Blow me ****. Did you just say octogenarians. Ha, ha.

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilico volcanoconiosis.

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right on right

Fergus Falls, MN

#419 Mar 22, 2010
leave the damn helmets out of it.liberals are liars(the new lol)lal!
YES WE WILL

Maple Grove, MN

#420 Apr 13, 2010
First, government unlike private entities that offer goods or services in exchange for revenue engages in pure consumption. As a result, all sources of government revenue involve destruction of wealth, rather than mutually beneficial commerce that enhances both parties.

Second, everything government does to obtain revenue contains an implicit death threat. Anyone who resists or refuses the demand for revenue with sufficient tenacity will find himself on the receiving end of an explicit threat made by an armed stranger in a government-issued costume.

Those principles provide the proper context to examine the tactics employed by various municipal and state governments to conduct what former Sheriff Richard Mack perceptively describes as "taxation through citation."

To put the matter bluntly, police the self-described "Sheepdogs" aren't here to protect the flock, but rather to make sure that we're securely penned in when it's sheep-shearing season.

During the penultimate weekend of February, police in Minneapolis-St. Paul Minnesota conducted an elaborate and lucrative sting to enforce the state's primary seat belt law.

Officers disguised as homeless people were dispatched to harass drivers at a busy intersection: The "homeless" people most likely in violation of traffic ordinances, certainly in violation of the 4th Amendment and Minnesota's state equivalent would peer into cars and then radio ahead to their cohorts in officially sanctioned crime, who would hand each "offender" an extortion note (more commonly called a "traffic ticket").

Dave Kvam, the deputy police chief of Maplewood (a suburb of St. Paul), insists that the multi-departmental racket was a justifiable exercise. After all, he told local reporter Ruben Rosario, "police have received numerous complaints of panhandling, and he believes the seat-belt law is a good one and should be enforced" by, among other things, having police violate ordinances against panhandling. That parallel is a bit unfair: Although panhandlers may be obnoxious, even the most tenacious of them couldn't get away with demanding money at gunpoint, as Kvam's fellow street criminals did during the seat-belt ambush.

Each victim would typically be mulcted $25 for declining to wear seat belts, coupled with a $75 "petty misdemeanor surcharge fee" which is essentially a tax inflicted on people for refusing to obey a spurious enactment the tax-absorbing class calls a "law" plus an additional $8 kickback to the state crime bosses in St. Paul (who had already been given a $3.5 million federal bribe to enact the primary seat-belt "law" in the first place). At least 122 citations were handed out in a space of three and a half hours.

As Rosario points out, the homeless ruse has been used not only in Minnesota but also "in Houston and a few other jurisdictions." (As we will discuss anon, Houston is also the scene of another creative effort to harvest revenue from the plebes.) As the economy sickens and street people become a more visible presence, it's quite likely their numbers will frequently include predatory, revenue-hungry police.

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