USGS study of White Bear Lake's falling water levels begins

The hydrologist with the U.S. Geological Survey had spent the previous two weeks zipping around the northeast metro area - from Centerville and Lino Lakes to North St. Full Story
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Water Dude

Barron, WI

#1 Apr 3, 2011
Someone pulled the plug, Man.
Tom E

New Richmond, WI

#2 Apr 3, 2011
And the answer is they stopped pumping water from wells into the lake a decade ago, this was the water that was used to raise the level of the lake! But instead of doing the obvious the government must do another study! Way to go ! wonder why we are protesting the ever greater tax burdon?
bothered reader

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Apr 3, 2011
I sure hope Dellwood decides to help fund this study. I think it's very sad that the one community that has residents with that much expendible income and are probably the ones re first in line to complain, have not put in yet. I personally don't think this study should be occurring. Lack of precipitation leads to lack of groundwater recharge and surface runoff and lower water levels. It's unfortunate for the residents, but I don't think it warranted a study of that cost. It's all the complaining from the area residents that got this to happen, and nothing more.
bothered reader

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Apr 3, 2011
Good lord Tom. Pumping groundwater out of the ground to augment the water levels sure isn't the answer either. Gee, let me think what happens when a groundwater fed lake is not able to receive groundwater because it's pumped from the acquifers that would naturally feed it and OTHER lakes in the area, not to mention drinkin water supplies. What's more important, drinking water or recreating in it? It never fails to see the ignorance of the non-science community. The only reason the study is occuring is because the public demanded it and nothing more. The government is not going to pump water into the lake for recreation, end of story.
what the

Babbitt, MN

#5 Apr 3, 2011
what is the matter with all the people? don't these state and federal people already get paid to do this??? no wonder the state's in a hole

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#6 Apr 3, 2011
what the wrote:
what is the matter with all the people? don't these state and federal people already get paid to do this??? no wonder the state's in ****
No. You need to chase funding for any study you want to do.
Pump it

Plymouth, MN

#7 Apr 3, 2011
bothered reader wrote:
Good lord Tom. Pumping groundwater out of the ground to augment the water levels sure isn't the answer either. Gee, let me think what happens when a groundwater fed lake is not able to receive groundwater because it's pumped from the acquifers that would naturally feed it and OTHER lakes in the area, not to mention drinkin water supplies. What's more important, drinking water or recreating in it? It never fails to see the ignorance of the non-science community. The only reason the study is occuring is because the public demanded it and nothing more. The government is not going to pump water into the lake for recreation, end of story.
And how many BILLIONS of gallons have been pumped to produce Ethonol?

The wells around WBL were drilled years ago when the lake levels dropped. "Government" drilled the wells then and they can be used again to maintain levels today.

To not pump is not an option.

WBL is a recreational gem used by thousands from all over the metro. Keep it up...
rob

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Apr 3, 2011
VERY FUNNY - ALL THE DO-GOODER TREE HUGGERS STOPPING THE RUNOFF FROM GOING INTO THE LAKE WITH RAIN GARDENS{joke} etc. etc. have killed the lake. their is always bad consequences for what this fools do !!!!
Tom

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Apr 3, 2011
Go figure that the people of Dellwood with all their money haven't contributed!
Citizen Kane

Cumberland, WI

#10 Apr 3, 2011
Mother nature is just reacting the way she should be expected to. Let this lake revert to a reedy marsh and quit worrying about people losing value in their lakeshore property. We have way more important things to worry about. If it is found out that development has drawn down the aquifer, what do they plan to do--pump water from Lake Superior to refill White Bear Lake!
T Day

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Apr 3, 2011
I don't think Tom E was advocating pumping well water back into the lake, he was just stating the fact that the lake was artificially created and maintained with well pumping and, once that stopped, the lake is returning to a more natural state. "Natural" being a term that is abused in an overpopulated area and an over-utilized resource (water) in an artificial environment.

Face it, the study will be justification for wasting more natural resources to protect "a recreational gem" that is used by a tiny portion of the people who will pay for it and that will profit an even small number of elite Dellwood residents. If the residents of White Bear and surrounding cities want to restore this lake, they should do it with their own money and responsibly. The rain gardens filter water back into underground storage and prevent urban pollution from poisoning drinking water. Your 320 blades of grass per square inch, chemically-enhanced lawns are doing the lake poisoning.
Reggie

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Apr 3, 2011
We should have been dumping clean snow on that lake all winter. Take it off the great lakes and cart it down. $200 large would cover most of the cost.
avery

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Apr 3, 2011
T Day wrote:
I don't think Tom E was advocating pumping well water back into the lake, he was just stating the fact that the lake was artificially created and maintained with well pumping and, once that stopped, the lake is returning to a more natural state. "Natural" being a term that is abused in an overpopulated area and an over-utilized resource (water) in an artificial environment.
Face it, the study will be justification for wasting more natural resources to protect "a recreational gem" that is used by a tiny portion of the people who will pay for it and that will profit an even small number of elite Dellwood residents. If the residents of White Bear and surrounding cities want to restore this lake, they should do it with their own money and responsibly. The rain gardens filter water back into underground storage and prevent urban pollution from poisoning drinking water. Your 320 blades of grass per square inch, chemically-enhanced lawns are doing the lake poisoning.
in regards to rain garden benefits - talk is cheap - prove it

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#14 Apr 3, 2011
Pump it wrote:
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And how many BILLIONS of gallons have been pumped to produce Ethonol?
The wells around WBL were drilled years ago when the lake levels dropped. "Government" drilled the wells then and they can be used again to maintain levels today.
To not pump is not an option.
WBL is a recreational gem used by thousands from all over the metro. Keep it up...
Yes, it is a GEM~~I live on the lake and it looks awful in the summer~~ALOT of money is generated by the people it attracts all year round~~

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#15 Apr 3, 2011
Tom wrote:
Go figure that the people of Dellwood with all their money haven't contributed!
LOL~~I was thinking the same thing~~One doesn't get rich by giving all their money away~~~But you would think they would be concerned about LAKEFRONT home values dropping, due to the fact the lake could be gone in a matter of time~~
Channel it

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Apr 3, 2011
Channel water from the Pleasant Lake chain which originates from the Mississippi river.

The DNR supports this type of action.

Have a fundraiser for the project.

Just do it...
A woman who knows

Chanhassen, MN

#17 Apr 3, 2011
Why does the study take until Fall 2012? Can't the beurocrat/scientists work on weekends?
Duke of Dellwood

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Apr 3, 2011
Tom wrote:
Go figure that the people of Dellwood with all their money haven't contributed!
We know that this study is a sham and a useless waste of money.
Sunning on the Deck

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Apr 3, 2011
Channel it wrote:
Channel water from the Pleasant Lake chain which originates from the Mississippi river.
The DNR supports this type of action.
Have a fundraiser for the project.
Just do it...
You do it, we're busy.
les

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Apr 3, 2011
12 yrs ago I was heckled for fishing with my little brother on the Island side of the bridge. It seems the folks living on the isle don't take kindly to 'riff raff' fishing to close to their mansions.
Well it took awhile but I got the last laugh. Suckers!

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