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North St. Paul / District sees door closing on plan for new bus garage

There are 8 comments on the story from Apr 16, 2010, titled North St. Paul / District sees door closing on plan for new bus garage. In it, reports that:

Plans for a new bus garage for the North St. Paul-Maplewood-Oakdale school district are on hold - yet again.

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New North St Paul

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Apr 17, 2010
"School board member Steve Hunt, who lives in North St. Paul, said he never would have voted to spend $850,000 on an "overpriced" building if the district weren't going to get city approval for the project. That's on top of money the district has spent on architects and other services to put the project together."

Why did the School District buy overpriced buildings to begin with? Maybe because it's not your money and what the heck, we can get a new bus garage?

More reckless disregard for the usage of the tight tax dollar. In times when commercial properties are deflated, the question still stands. Why would you pay for more than it's worth?

Not too long ago in another article, you all acted like this money was just laying around even though you can't even balance a budget.
Now the city sees that the Southern sector of the MAIN traffic input into the city is wide open for vital city development.

The Anchor Block Company now defunct, is a GOLD MINE for future growth being right next to the bike trail and all. With Och's Brick gone, one could envision a myriad of quaint village like business or shops catering to the Hwy 36 traffic.

You have to get the people off the Hwy, what a better way. As you are driving East on Hwy 36 now and drive over the hump from White Bear ave, all you see is the Anchor Block bldg. and a dirt pile.
That could all be changed and breathe new life into a dying retail business sector. I think there is as much as 7 acres of land next to the Gate Way trail. There could be a rest stop, park and benches on the one side North of the bridge for weary bikers.

The proposed new bus site appears good but is selfish and does not look at the bigger picture for the vitality of city. It is a bad idea. It needs to get out of town. Hurry up and build it. No...

36 and McKnight is now the most important and only major intersection in the city.

This makes sense to stop and think about this.

It would actually be better if they just rebuild where they are than use the Och's and Metal Dr. Property.

I am also concerned about the mitigation of all the leaky oil/chemical buses parked there. Where is that spillage going to wind up? I have a good Idea, the preserve.

To try to trap all that run off will add millions of dollars to cost of building a bus garage in that spot.
What's the big hurry people.....
New North St Paul

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Apr 17, 2010
"That's a million dollars that we now don't have to do things for kids in our district," he said. "We thought we had an agreement with the city that we could count on. Maybe I haven't lived in North St. Paul long enough to understand the politics."

Really? that's like the pot calling the kettle black is it not?

What was it called when you diverted millions from education to build a bus garage?

The City is right and just to put the Bus Brakes on this one.

The land in that area is way to valuable to turn it into non revenue property with other implications and pressure on residential and commercial interests.

Your going to have to hang on to it or sell it.
Who's fault is it that you did not husband your resources?

Maybe you can all take a Pay Cut and Pension Reduction over the next 7 years and we will vote on it in a referendum and call it a reverse levy, how's that?

This is not about politics. Its about the survival of a city the size of postage stamp and all the people that live here. Home values and wise choices in development.

Get over it and find another spot.
New North St Paul

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Apr 17, 2010
Members of the city's environmental advocacy commission say they are worried about light pollution and water quality at the Urban Ecology Center.

"It's just not good use of the property. Basically, they're trying to put a square peg through a round hole," said resident John Fax, who has been lobbying against the project. "There's quite a bit of opposition, and I wish they'd listen to the people."

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Apr 18, 2010
The news story states "City zoning prohibits upgrading or expanding". This statement is not factual. Both the current and proposed bus sites fall within the same zoning district.

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Apr 18, 2010
Looks like the school district and the city never learned one of lifes early childhoods lesson that if you play with fire, you're going to get burned.
the guy up the street

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Apr 19, 2010
You spent a MILLION FRIGGIN DOLLARS without an approved site plan. NO you've got to be kidding me! PLEASE DO NOT RUN AGAIN.

I don't care whether or not this gets approved, but that was just STUPID.
Julie B

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Apr 21, 2010
Well, at last night's city council meeting the city attorney basically laid out the school district's case: even if the council votes against the bus garage, ISD 622 could take the case to court and win. So I'm wondering: what's the real point of all this drama, debate and hand-wringing?

Chicago, IL

#8 Apr 21, 2010
Your not going to believe ant attorney are you? They eat there own kids when hungry.

The District speaks of a deal. A hand shake? Verbal? written?

I was not there because my presence is disturbing to the panel of celebrity citizens.

The point is; this should be revenue generating property, proper for future prosperity of NSP.

Hand winging? Drama? Let me guess, you work for the *school district or moreover maybe the four(4) people that will work there.

Do you understand how valuable the real estate is South of 36 is? Probably not.

This is the most important intersection for future business development now that Anchor Block pulled out.

Do you have skin in the game? tell me how. Do you pay taxes or consume them? That should tell me everything I need to know (don't lie).

Maybe the millions of dollars that was just laying around for this can go help the chillldrennnn...

WHAT ABOUT THE SCHOOL BUDGET? HELLO? Is there a surplus? Explain this to me.

The kids need the money and we will have to lay off teachers, oh no!(District normal outcry)

Maybe it's a few choice people stomping the floor and saying "Everybody else is getting a new building what about us?" Could that be it.

*Us unejjecated dun't use hifins.

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