No school closures necessary for now in North St. Paul-Maplewood-Oa...

The North St. Paul-Maplewood-Oakdale school district will not close any of its schools in the immediate future. Full Story
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hmmmm

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Jun 29, 2010
here we go wrote:
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Excuse me? I've lived in this school district for 23 years and watched this school district waste money hand over fist every day. Who's on the outside? It's the wasteful bureaucrats who are the clueless outsiders. The taxpayers are the ones on the inside...
Like I said, it's easy to judge when your on the outside looking in. And trust me, you ARE on the OUTSIDE!
here we go

Saint Paul, MN

#22 Jun 29, 2010
hmmmm wrote:
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Like I said, it's easy to judge when your on the outside looking in. And trust me, you ARE on the OUTSIDE!
Oh really? So, enlighten me. What exactly is it I don't know? I'm all ears.

By the way, what school district do you reside, outside looking in? Just curious...
hmmmm

Saint Paul, MN

#23 Jun 29, 2010
here we go wrote:
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Oh really? So, enlighten me. What exactly is it I don't know? I'm all ears.
By the way, what school district do you reside, outside looking in? Just curious...
I've lived in this district twice as long as you. I was educated in this district as is/were my children. I used to have very strong opinions like you, which is fine. In fact sometimes I still do. But through the years I've come to know a few people who make those very tough decisions. It's not cut and dry like one might think. There are many, many things to consider even for the things we would consider no brainers. That's all I meant by us being on the outside looking in.
here we go

Saint Paul, MN

#24 Jun 30, 2010
hmmmm wrote:
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I've lived in this district twice as long as you. I was educated in this district as is/were my children. I used to have very strong opinions like you, which is fine. In fact sometimes I still do. But through the years I've come to know a few people who make those very tough decisions. It's not cut and dry like one might think. There are many, many things to consider even for the things we would consider no brainers. That's all I meant by us being on the outside looking in.
So, I needed you to tell me that nothing in life is cut and dry? Oh, well thank you! I feels so enlightened?

Now, let me tell you a few things about me. I've lived in this district most of my adult life. Through that duration, I learned the importance of paying attention on what's going on, especially with local and municipal politics. I CARE about how much YOU and I pay in taxes. I read, research, listen, go to meetings and then vote.

It's fine if you want to support your district. I have no issue with that. But before you imply ignorance to someone else, you really should consider the fact that they may know what they're talking about. After all, nothing in life is cut and dry, is it?
hmmmm

Saint Paul, MN

#25 Jun 30, 2010
Never did I imply you were ignorant, and never did I imply that I knew it all. Just because I support the district doesn't mean I support all their decisions. I just have an understanding of how hard it is to make those decisions whether I, or we, like it or not. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm so happy I was able to enlighten you! It made my day. I always get a fuzzy warm feeling when I help fellow man.
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Maple Plain, MN

#26 Jun 30, 2010
Love North High where the students must walk a block OUTSIDE in order to get from one class to the next.

How do ya like that -20 or rainy excursion between classes?

ISD622 is all about "What is good for the teachers union". Senator Wiger takes care of his teachers and not so much the kids.

When teachers are the priority there isn't much left for bricks and mortar.
justme

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Jun 30, 2010
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Love North High where the students must walk a block OUTSIDE in order to get from one class to the next.
How do ya like that -20 or rainy excursion between classes?
ISD622 is all about "What is good for the teachers union". Senator Wiger takes care of his teachers and not so much the kids.
When teachers are the priority there isn't much left for bricks and mortar.
yeah, they didn't plan that one very well did they!
Really

Minneapolis, MN

#28 Jun 30, 2010
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Close a school and send the open enrollment kids back to where they came from so the are educated with their peers in their area.
We have our kids enrolled in ISD 622 through open enrollment. I wont give you the sob story of our home dropping 80k in value in 5 years and not being able to move to an area where the schools are better because of that.

But the facts are its a STATE LAW, and you can pound your drum all day long, but do you REALLY know where ISD 622 gets a majority of their funding? Its from the state, and funny, ISD gets more money from the state from my kids being in the district.

You have to navigate through life with the cards given to you. There is no way in hell my kids will ever see a ST Paul school room. Its either open enrollment or home school for us.

If you dont like the law, go down to the big marble building on University Ave and start changing it, or maybe you should bitch about all of the section 8 BS that lives in the district that is on free breakfast and lunch, and has everything subsidized. We pay our way for everything, and give hundreds out of pocket for school fundraisers and supporting the school.

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Plymouth, MN

#29 Jul 1, 2010
Really wrote:
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We have our kids enrolled in ISD 622 through open enrollment. I wont give you the sob story of our home dropping 80k in value in 5 years and not being able to move to an area where the schools are better because of that.
But the facts are its a STATE LAW, and you can pound your drum all day long, but do you REALLY know where ISD 622 gets a majority of their funding? Its from the state, and funny, ISD gets more money from the state from my kids being in the district.
You have to navigate through life with the cards given to you. There is no way in hell my kids will ever see a ST Paul school room. Its either open enrollment or home school for us.
If you dont like the law, go down to the big marble building on University Ave and start changing it, or maybe you should **** about all of the section 8 BS that lives in the district that is on free breakfast and lunch, and has everything subsidized. We pay our way for everything, and give hundreds out of pocket for school fundraisers and supporting the school.
Is good your kids are doing well in 622. Your involvement in the 622 schools is essential to your kids success in the district.

Raising our kids in 622 and tracking their progress we found the need to move them to Hill from middle school on. Cost was a factor but our kids are out of college, working and learned much more from Hill than they would have ever picked up at a 622 school.

Hill has high expectations and makes sure the students learn to be punctual, are there to learn, and expose students to all aspects of education.

We pulled our kids from 622 because a girl was assaulted by a teacher and the teacher was not removed from service. If you look carefully at 622 schools you will see the problems. When ya do you might feel compelled to get out of Dodge like we did.
Really

Minneapolis, MN

#30 Jul 1, 2010
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Is good your kids are doing well in 622. Your involvement in the 622 schools is essential to your kids success in the district.
Raising our kids in 622 and tracking their progress we found the need to move them to Hill from middle school on. Cost was a factor but our kids are out of college, working and learned much more from Hill than they would have ever picked up at a 622 school.
Hill has high expectations and makes sure the students learn to be punctual, are there to learn, and expose students to all aspects of education.
We pulled our kids from 622 because a girl was assaulted by a teacher and the teacher was not removed from service. If you look carefully at 622 schools you will see the problems. When ya do you might feel compelled to get out of Dodge like we did.
Welcome to America.

I also was a product of ISD 622, and I went to college, graduated and now am a business owner.

Guess they have no clue how to educate. They may not be perfect, but show me anyone that is perfect. Oh and yes, I know plenty of kids that went to hill, that today work hourly jobs and smoke and drink themselves into a stopper every Friday and Saturday night, still....

As soon as people realize its not the school that has the total responsibility to educate kids, rather its the parents job to raise kids (and that includes educating) everyone will be better off.

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