Their song, our war, my father: A sto...

Their song, our war, my father: A story of life and World War II

There are 19 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Aug 14, 2010, titled Their song, our war, my father: A story of life and World War II. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

My father was never one to talk about his military service in World War II. Most of it remains a mystery to me.

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Saint Paul, MN

#1 Aug 15, 2010
Emily for this wonderful story. Although your parents didnt have a happy ending, like you said, this was life.

Thank you for the glimpse into your fathers history, and yours too.

My Dad was in Korea, my Uncle in Vietnam, and I in Desert Storm. My Dad and Uncle were Marines like your Dad, I was a Navy Hospital Corpsman.

I now work for the VA and work with a lot of claims from the WWII vets. They truly are Ameericas Great Generation. Very few are left and we should learn what we can from them while we still have them with us.

Bless you and your family Emily.

Lisa
O-3E in 101st Airborne

United States

#2 Aug 15, 2010
Wow...choking back tears reading this one. Truly an amazing story from back when America was still America. Nice writing Ms. Gurnon.
Not Your Way

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Aug 15, 2010
Thanks for your story Emily, enjoyed reading it.
Not Your Way

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Aug 15, 2010
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you about Emily story it was heartfelt!
But the fort snelling va is a lilly white,political,teabagging outfit when it comes to Black veterans,service connected claims,I don't know why the President just keep letting the republicans,.hijack his admin,all of you claims examiners should be the fvk fired!
You're not very smart, but this is a new low even for you. We aren't buying the racist BS anymore, save it for your DFL rallies.
KeeKee

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Aug 15, 2010
A charming very real story. No dramatic highs or lows to help spark the jaded reader's attention -- As she said, just the story of a life. I was also impressed by the simple compassion she extended to both her parents. Imperfect people to be sure (aren't we all) but the lack of blame she burdened them with is refreshing to read today when so many of us seek to blame others for our own struggles and errors and missed chances.
Bah Humbug

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Aug 15, 2010
Nice story indeed. Too bad the poster from St Paul has to inject his venom.
EPS

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Aug 15, 2010
Redeemer
You must really feel miserable.
kaiser sosche

Hudson, WI

#9 Aug 15, 2010
Thanks so much for sharing this with us!!
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Aug 15, 2010
EPS wrote:
Redeemer
You must really feel miserable.
I feel really Great!
Bree Merritt

New Richmond, WI

#14 Aug 15, 2010
That was a really touching story! thank you for sharing it!
Musky Tom Wehler

Saint Joseph, MN

#15 Aug 15, 2010
Great story...simply great...thanks for sharing.
:)
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Aug 15, 2010
B H Obama wrote:
<quoted text>
Earl, behave yourself!
My name ain't Earl!! and did you read this story?? this sailor needed help,the man serve at Tarawa! THAT island was bloodier then Iwo Jima and Gualicanal,tarawa was called
a butcher shop,and our naval and marines took a major hit in it's assault!

Don't you think that he might have suffered from PTSD(Shellshock)seeing his buddies get
kill??? the most two extremes any human will experience is seeing Childbirth and seeing Death!

And our history has proven that the way our veterans get help and be serve,is by other
veterans,losers like you don't really give a damm for the writer father,our his service,
you lying sneakey,fake piece of Chit! look at ya,you have to pretend that you are pres. Obama to make a cheap uniform silly as comment!

But I'm glad that you kept my post going though, maybe them as-holesat snelling will get the message,that they have fail.

And I still stand on my orginal post,that the backs veterans deserve their valid claims be Honor,just like the wht vets.

And the military is just as separated by race and class,just like the rest of the country!

I was in country(Nam) in 1968,the year MLK,RFK and geo.Wallace,did you think that we loved you republicans and haters humm?

btw,DID YOU KNOW THAT our allies so called allies s.vietemese,and the Iraq's army members,get the same benefit's that we are suppose to have ??? HUH!
redeemer

Delano, MN

#17 Aug 15, 2010
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text>
My name ain't Earl!! and did you read this story?? this sailor needed help,the man serve at Tarawa! THAT island was bloodier then Iwo Jima and Gualicanal,tarawa was called
a butcher shop,and our naval and marines took a major hit in it's assault!
Don't you think that he might have suffered from PTSD(Shellshock)seeing his buddies get
kill??? the most two extremes any human will experience is seeing Childbirth and seeing Death!
And our history has proven that the way our veterans get help and be serve,is by other
veterans,losers like you don't really give a damm for the writer father,our his service,
you lying sneakey,fake piece of Chit! look at ya,you have to pretend that you are pres. Obama to make a cheap uniform silly as comment!
But I'm glad that you kept my post going though, maybe them as-holesat snelling will get the message,that they have fail.
And I still stand on my orginal post,that the backs veterans deserve their valid claims be Honor,just like the wht vets.
And the military is just as separated by race and class,just like the rest of the country!
I was in country(Nam) in 1968,the year MLK,RFK and geo.Wallace,did you think that we loved you republicans and haters humm?
btw,DID YOU KNOW THAT our allies so called allies s.vietemese,and the Iraq's army members,get the same benefit's that we are suppose to have ??? HUH!
i lie! my name IS Earl. i was nver a vet who was in Nam. I lie all the time as all swine RAT m'fers do.hahaha Balack Obama is also a RAT m'fer who is doing evil to country of the US. He and ALL DemonicRATS are swine!
O-3E in 101st Airborne

United States

#18 Aug 15, 2010
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text>
this sailor needed help,the man serve at Tarawa! THAT island was bloodier then Iwo Jima and Gualicanal,tarawa was called
a butcher shop,and our naval and marines took a major hit in it's assault!
Tarawa was indeed a very significant battle with significant losses, but I think you might want to check your history book(s) if you really believe it was more costly than Iwo Jima or Guadalcanal.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Aug 15, 2010
O-3E in 101st Airborne wrote:
<quoted text>
Tarawa was indeed a very significant battle with significant losses, but I think you might want to check your history book(s) if you really believe it was more costly than Iwo Jima or Guadalcanal.
Sir you are most likely right,and the officer that you are, I appreciate being corrected by you!
But my point was ,that Tarawa was a bloody beachhead,and the second marine division did take signicant losse's,and even the native islander's committed large civilian loss's and massive sucidual counts.
And the writer father did have some issue's that he probably needed
some professional help,the Va have just started to acknowledge that PTSD(shellshock) is a common trait,with combat veterans,and
PTSD groups,where veterans can talk,with other veterans about what war have done to their psy....Sir!

Do you recall when after WW1.1 that Gen.McArthur had to beat veterans, for demanding veteran rights,in washington DC in the 20's! even today do you how long veterans have been trying to get
the VA to recognize the effects of Agent orange? to the VA credit they have finally started to recognize that!

You are a geniune officer and leader sir,and I say again that I do
appreciate your leadership and your service Sir,and you are the only poster on this forum that I address as Sir!
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Aug 15, 2010
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text>i lie! my name IS Earl. i was nver a vet who was in Nam. I lie all the time as all swine RAT m'fers do.hahaha Balack Obama is also a RAT m'fer who is doing evil to country of the US. He and ALL DemonicRATS are swine!
What a worthless cheap bitcheee you here!
Friend

Brainerd, MN

#21 Aug 16, 2010
M~ What a fabulous story. Thank you for sharing! Amazing the things we can learn about our childhood friends from reading the paper!!! K.T.
O-3E in 101st Airborne

United States

#22 Aug 16, 2010
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text>Do you recall when after WW1.1 that Gen.McArthur had to beat veterans, for demanding veteran rights,in washington DC in the 20's! even today do you how long veterans have been trying to get
the VA to recognize the effects of Agent orange? to the VA credit they have finally started to recognize that!
You are a geniune officer and leader sir,and I say again that I do
appreciate your leadership and your service Sir,and you are the only poster on this forum that I address as Sir!
I can't say that I remember GEN MacArthur doing that (I was born in '69) but I am familiar with the story. It's always easiest to judge in hindsight and in this case there's more to the story. He had a duty to help keep the peace, regardless of his personal feelings. Many of the veterans in that story were marching on DC because congress failed to fund benefits promised to them, thus disabling the VA from being able to provide them. It wasn't GEN Mac's fault, but he still had a duty vis a vis the security there. I'm sure he had more than his fair share of stress and guilt over having to do it.

As for the VA, I can only speak of my own experience. I left active duty in '94 after 5 years of active duty to go into the national guard and go back to finish college. I eventually transferred back onto active duty in late 2007 after I got my commission. In the interim, the few times I went to the VA they looked over-worked and underfunded. You'd be shocked at the "disabilities" some people apply for these days and I dare say Patton (or even George C. Scott) would slap more than a few ex-troops with his glove for trying to milk the system. There's such a back-log of comp and disability claims that it overwhelms the personnel available to process them. I've been treated with nothing but respect and helpfullness by every VA employee I've ever dealt with, with one exception. That one exception in 1996 was so rude that I wrote a letter to Congressman Gutknecht's office and within a month the guy was canned.

Your claims of racism I assume are based on your own experience, but I've never witnessed or heard of racism at the VA. In my opinion they're good people doing the best they can within a typically bureaucratic governmental organization.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#23 Aug 16, 2010
O-3E in 101st Airborne wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't say that I remember GEN MacArthur doing that (I was born in '69) but I am familiar with the story. It's always easiest to judge in hindsight and in this case there's more to the story. He had a duty to help keep the peace, regardless of his personal feelings. Many of the veterans in that story were marching on DC because congress failed to fund benefits promised to them, thus disabling the VA from being able to provide them. It wasn't GEN Mac's fault, but he still had a duty vis a vis the security there. I'm sure he had more than his fair share of stress and guilt over having to do it.
As for the VA, I can only speak of my own experience. I left active duty in '94 after 5 years of active duty to go into the national guard and go back to finish college. I eventually transferred back onto active duty in late 2007 after I got my commission. In the interim, the few times I went to the VA they looked over-worked and underfunded. You'd be shocked at the "disabilities" some people apply for these days and I dare say Patton (or even George C. Scott) would slap more than a few ex-troops with his glove for trying to milk the system. There's such a back-log of comp and disability claims that it overwhelms the personnel available to process them. I've been treated with nothing but respect and helpfullness by every VA employee I've ever dealt with, with one exception. That one exception in 1996 was so rude that I wrote a letter to Congressman Gutknecht's office and within a month the guy was canned.
Your claims of racism I assume are based on your own experience, but I've never witnessed or heard of racism at the VA. In my opinion they're good people doing the best they can within a typically bureaucratic governmental organization.
I'm not accusing the entire VA system of racism,I think that the VA hospital without a doubt is the best in the world.
But it has been my experience and most of my black veteran friends,thatthe ft.snelling
office,go out of there to help and assist white vets,and that don't make them racist,but at the same time they automatically think that non-whites vets are trying to milk the system,and it's just not true,but that's their mindset.
And Black veterans in the twin cities all recognize that fact,it is what it is,so why should we be in denial about the truth?
To the credit of the national va,they have started a minority veteran outreach program
were a va rep.will actually sit down with us and to discuss our claims and concerns,but that hasn't happen at snelling yet!!

Also I know that McArthur was following orders.And did you know that Gen.Omar Bradley
was against an intergrated army! but he was instrumental in forming the V.A.

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