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Gay marriage is now legal in Rhode Island, and those who aren't behind it movement are taking a lot of heat.

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Since: Mar 09

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#1 Aug 11, 2013
Keep your politics out of religion AND keep religion out of politics.

The daddy issues of a few gay catholics is NOT representative of the vast majority of gay people.

Accept it. The RCC doesn't want you.

LEAVE.

Since: Mar 07

Hanover, VA

#2 Aug 11, 2013
snyper wrote:
Keep your politics out of religion AND keep religion out of politics.
The daddy issues of a few gay catholics is NOT representative of the vast majority of gay people.
Accept it. The RCC doesn't want you.
LEAVE.
Just leaving a tough thing for a lot of Catholics. It's not usually just a denomination you choose, it's a culture you are born into. And leaving a culture means that when you do leave, deep and pervasive roots and connections must be ripped away. Connections that bind you tightly to your family, your friends, and your community.

Some people can't do it.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#3 Aug 11, 2013
It's the RCC for cryin' out loud. You know the rules, and you know they aren't going to change. I left the Lutherans years ago, both because I could no longer believe in their fairy tales, but also because they told me was damned to Hell for being a "practicing homosexual". Screw 'em I say. Either follow the rules or get the heck out. You were aware of it going into your relationship, so what else do you expect?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#4 Aug 11, 2013
Ripping away from bad roots is sometimes necessary to sustain life

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#5 Aug 11, 2013
I'm not great fan of the RCC or any organized religion for that matter. But they have the right to follow the tenets of the faith.

If those tenets or that faith is incompatible with your life the the onus is on YOU to change not them.

For "change" read "find a religion or faith that IS compatible with you and your life". Heaven knows there are lots from which to choose.

As 'Quest' says above it's hard to leave something that's hardwired from your childhood and if you don't want to leave then stay but don't bitch about the tenets of the church with which you are freeing choosing to associate yourself.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

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#6 Aug 11, 2013
RalphB wrote:
It's the RCC for cryin' out loud. You know the rules, and you know they aren't going to change. I left the Lutherans years ago, both because I could no longer believe in their fairy tales, but also because they told me was damned to Hell for being a "practicing homosexual". Screw 'em I say. Either follow the rules or get the heck out. You were aware of it going into your relationship, so what else do you expect?
Misery Synod ?

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#7 Aug 11, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Misery Synod ?
Yep.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

33.00, -111.51

#8 Aug 11, 2013
RalphB wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep.
ELCA here. "St. Martin's Second Reformed Lutheran Church and Microbrewery of Tobyhanna".:)

Since: Mar 09

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#9 Aug 11, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Just leaving a tough thing for a lot of Catholics. It's not usually just a denomination you choose, it's a culture you are born into. And leaving a culture means that when you do leave, deep and pervasive roots and connections must be ripped away. Connections that bind you tightly to your family, your friends, and your community.
Some people can't do it.
I know.

I did.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

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#10 Aug 11, 2013
snyper wrote:
Keep your politics out of religion AND keep religion out of politics.
The daddy issues of a few gay catholics is NOT representative of the vast majority of gay people.
Accept it. The RCC doesn't want you.
LEAVE.
Another example of the RCC's highly conditional "love".
qwerty26

Rehoboth Beach, DE

#11 Aug 11, 2013
Transubstantiation: the substance of the bread and the wine used in the sacrament is literally, not merely as by a sign or a figure, but in actual reality as well, changed into the substance of the Body and the Blood of Jesus.

Anyone who wants to participate in eating human flesh and drinking human blood is welcome to do so. The fact that no one is arrested or prosecuted for so doing would seem to indicate that maybe this particularly strange and savage tenet of the RCC is not really believed by anyone, including those who partake of it.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

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#12 Aug 11, 2013
qwerty26 wrote:
Transubstantiation: the substance of the bread and the wine used in the sacrament is literally, not merely as by a sign or a figure, but in actual reality as well, changed into the substance of the Body and the Blood of Jesus.
Anyone who wants to participate in eating human flesh and drinking human blood is welcome to do so. The fact that no one is arrested or prosecuted for so doing would seem to indicate that maybe this particularly strange and savage tenet of the RCC is not really believed by anyone, including those who partake of it.
I have NO interest in cannibalism.

But from time to time, there have been some well publicized cases of it occurring when a person's life depended on it. Two famous cases from the 19th century are "The Donner Party" (bring your own party hat, balloons and confetti), and "The Wreck Of The Essex" (An EXCELLENT non-fiction book, by Owen Chase, which I read some years ago, and from whence Herman Melville drew inspiration, and source material, for his book, "Moby Dick").

So, while I do not think that anyone can say for certain what they would do when faced with such a grim choice, I'm curious to know if anybody can say here and now, if they would actually do or absolutely would not, do such a thing, if their life depended on it.

(I would never do so AND I am, and have been for many years, a STRICT VEGETARIAN).

Since: Mar 09

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#13 Aug 11, 2013
qwerty26 wrote:
Transubstantiation: the substance of the bread and the wine used in the sacrament is literally, not merely as by a sign or a figure, but in actual reality as well, changed into the substance of the Body and the Blood of Jesus.
Anyone who wants to participate in eating human flesh and drinking human blood is welcome to do so. The fact that no one is arrested or prosecuted for so doing would seem to indicate that maybe this particularly strange and savage tenet of the RCC is not really believed by anyone, including those who partake of it.
I suspect that they would have to seek indictment with the District Attorney for metaphor and delusion.

Since: Mar 09

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#21 Aug 11, 2013
Looks like we have the DELUSION part covered.

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#22 Aug 12, 2013
HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA wrote:
<quoted text>
----
OH THE
POSSESSED BY THE SATANIC AND DEMONIC SPIRIT OF SEXUAL PERVERSION, DEPRAVITY, DEBAUCHERY, DEFORMITY AND DELUSION
POOR, USELESS, TRASH, BRAINWASHED, ILLITERATE, UNINFORMED, UNEDUCATED, UNREAD, SICK, WARPED, TWISTED PHD PROFESSORS OF DYSFUNCTION, CORRUPT, POWER HUNGRY, CRIMINAL ILLOGICAL, IRRATIONAL, DEMENTED, DERANGED, SECULAR, GODLESS UGLY LOSER, DESPERATE, SEXUALLY, MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE USELESS SATANIC, SICK TWISTED, STUPID, WEAK, DELUDED, DEPRAVED, DEBAUCHED, FILTHY, SORDID, ABNORMAL, UNNATURAL, UNHEALTHY, HALF BRAINED LOW IQ'ED DIABOLICAL VOODOO RITUAL LOVING WANNA BE NORMAL, NATURAL, FULL COMPLETE BRAINED MENTALLY HEALTHY LIKE CHRISTIANS AND HETEROSEXUALS, CHRSITIANPHOBE AND HETEROSEXUALPHOBE BADLY PROGRAMMED, BADLY WIRED MOTHERBOARD ZOMBIE ROBOT MONKEY LOW IQ HIPPIE, ATHEIST, IGNORANT, MONKEY TABLOID RUBBISH, PATHETIC, PSYCHOTIC, DEFECTIVE, MARIJUANA SMOKER IN ADOLESCENCE, SEVERELY DAMAGING ITS BRAIN, MONKEY GIBBERISH, HOMOCRAP (FORMERLY DEMOCRAT) SPAWN DEMONS, HUSBANDS, WIVES, LOVERS AND WORSHIPERS OF SATAN, THE DEVIL, LUCIFER, THE EVIL ONE, THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS, BELIAL,BEELZEBUB, DEMON, USELESS RIGGING PROGRAMMED VOTING MACHINES,liberal AND SO CALLED "progressive"
WEAK, PLASTIC, SYNTHETIC, TOXIC, FAKE POOFTER SODOMITE AND TRANSGENDER FECES, AKIN TO PLASTIC, SYNTHETIC FAKE SO CALLED "beef" GOLDEN ARCHES (MCDONALDS) BURGERS
SPEAKS!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
I can't help wondering what this sounds like if you play it backward.

It's so stupid that I'm thinking it would only make sense played backward.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#23 Aug 12, 2013
RalphB wrote:
It's the RCC for cryin' out loud. You know the rules, and you know they aren't going to change. I left the Lutherans years ago, both because I could no longer believe in their fairy tales, but also because they told me was damned to Hell for being a "practicing homosexual". Screw 'em I say. Either follow the rules or get the heck out. You were aware of it going into your relationship, so what else do you expect?
But they have changed the rules, many times.

a)the catholic church now accepts scientific teachings as facts. They have changed to accept evolution now and earlier, the rejected it.
b) The also concur that a geocentric theory of the universe is false. And they now accept that the heliocentric theory is true
c) They are also less violent in their convictions. I mean it's not like we've had a crusade after a while. Also, we no longer hang adulterers and hethens. If it truely was consistant, I would be executed for even taking the con side of this debate.

I believe Catholics can also marry non Catholics now.

Source - https://www.debate.org/debates/Catholic-Churc...

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

33.00, -111.51

#24 Aug 12, 2013
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
But they have changed the rules, many times.
a)the catholic church now accepts scientific teachings as facts. They have changed to accept evolution now and earlier, the rejected it.
b) The also concur that a geocentric theory of the universe is false. And they now accept that the heliocentric theory is true
c) They are also less violent in their convictions. I mean it's not like we've had a crusade after a while. Also, we no longer hang adulterers and hethens. If it truely was consistant, I would be executed for even taking the con side of this debate.
I believe Catholics can also marry non Catholics now.
Source - https://www.debate.org/debates/Catholic-Churc...
They also changed the rule about married clergy, which they USED TO ALLOW, and they could revert back to allowing a married clergy again, merely by the Pope giving his say so. For the MAJORITY of the history of the RCC, a married clergy WAS allowed.

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#25 Aug 12, 2013
HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA wrote:
<quoted text>
----
OH THE
POSSESSED BY THE SATANIC AND DEMONIC SPIRIT OF SEXUAL PERVERSION, DEPRAVITY, DEBAUCHERY, DEFORMITY AND DELUSION
POOR, USELESS, TRASH, BRAINWASHED, ILLITERATE, UNINFORMED, UNEDUCATED, UNREAD, SICK, WARPED, TWISTED PHD PROFESSORS OF DYSFUNCTION, CORRUPT, POWER HUNGRY, CRIMINAL ILLOGICAL, IRRATIONAL, DEMENTED, DERANGED, SECULAR, GODLESS UGLY LOSER, DESPERATE, SEXUALLY, MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE USELESS SATANIC, SICK TWISTED, STUPID, WEAK, DELUDED, DEPRAVED, DEBAUCHED, FILTHY, SORDID, ABNORMAL, UNNATURAL, UNHEALTHY, HALF BRAINED LOW IQ'ED DIABOLICAL VOODOO RITUAL LOVING WANNA BE NORMAL, NATURAL, FULL COMPLETE BRAINED MENTALLY HEALTHY LIKE CHRISTIANS AND HETEROSEXUALS, CHRSITIANPHOBE AND HETEROSEXUALPHOBE BADLY PROGRAMMED, BADLY WIRED MOTHERBOARD ZOMBIE ROBOT MONKEY LOW IQ HIPPIE, ATHEIST, IGNORANT, MONKEY TABLOID RUBBISH, PATHETIC, PSYCHOTIC, DEFECTIVE, MARIJUANA SMOKER IN ADOLESCENCE, SEVERELY DAMAGING ITS BRAIN, MONKEY GIBBERISH, HOMOCRAP (FORMERLY DEMOCRAT) SPAWN DEMONS, HUSBANDS, WIVES, LOVERS AND WORSHIPERS OF SATAN, THE DEVIL, LUCIFER, THE EVIL ONE, THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS, BELIAL,BEELZEBUB, DEMON, USELESS RIGGING PROGRAMMED VOTING MACHINES,liberal AND SO CALLED "progressive"
WEAK, PLASTIC, SYNTHETIC, TOXIC, FAKE POOFTER SODOMITE AND TRANSGENDER FECES, AKIN TO PLASTIC, SYNTHETIC FAKE SO CALLED "beef" GOLDEN ARCHES (MCDONALDS) BURGERS
SPEAKS!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

And here I thought Ginsberg was dead.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#29 Aug 13, 2013
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
But they have changed the rules, many times.
a)the catholic church now accepts scientific teachings as facts. They have changed to accept evolution now and earlier, the rejected it.
b) The also concur that a geocentric theory of the universe is false. And they now accept that the heliocentric theory is true
c) They are also less violent in their convictions. I mean it's not like we've had a crusade after a while. Also, we no longer hang adulterers and hethens. If it truely was consistant, I would be executed for even taking the con side of this debate.
I believe Catholics can also marry non Catholics now.
Source - https://www.debate.org/debates/Catholic-Churc...
And how long did it take for them o make these changes? Since the argument over same-sex attraction, and Marriage Equality is still in its' infancy (as far as arguments over church teaching go), do you really think they will change their stance in the near future? I doubt it. True, they do change teaching, but I doubt anyone alive today is about to see them change it where Marriage Equality and same-sex attraction is concerned. My advice is still the same, get out until they do change their teaching.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

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#30 Aug 14, 2013
qwerty26 wrote:
Transubstantiation: the substance of the bread and the wine used in the sacrament is literally, not merely as by a sign or a figure, but in actual reality as well, changed into the substance of the Body and the Blood of Jesus.
Anyone who wants to participate in eating human flesh and drinking human blood is welcome to do so. The fact that no one is arrested or prosecuted for so doing would seem to indicate that maybe this particularly strange and savage tenet of the RCC is not really believed by anyone, including those who partake of it.
NO - You CANNOT change one thing into another...get real!

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