Right all but abandons fight after de...

Right all but abandons fight after decade of same-sex marriage

There are 34 comments on the SFGate story from May 2, 2014, titled Right all but abandons fight after decade of same-sex marriage. In it, SFGate reports that:

In an extraordinary post on her blog Thursday , Maggie Gallagher, a founder of the National Organization for Marriage , conceded that opponents of same-sex marriage "are in shock, they are awed by the powers now shutting down the debate and by our ineffectualness at responding to these developments."

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“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#21 May 2, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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I just downloaded that and installed it. Seems to work much better now.
Thanks !
:)
Your welcome:-)
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#22 May 2, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
So all 6 members of NOM are in shock now, huh ?
NOM's operating budget for their posh DC headquarters is $100,000 per month
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As of yesterday; Brian and Maggie were $25,000 SHORT and begging for money like Pat Robertson on steroids
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From Brian:
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"Today is the last day to help us reach our $100,000 fundraising goal for the 2014 March for Marriage
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It's the end of the month and bills are coming due. Contracts have been signed that require payment in advance for logistics, equipment, consumables, travel arrangements, and many, many more critical details
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We are still around $25,000 short of our $100,000 fundraising goal for this month"
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After they check for gas leaks; maybe they can light some candles to see their way out of the building before the bulldozers come ;)

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#23 May 2, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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NOM's operating budget for their posh DC headquarters is $100,000 per month
.
As of yesterday; Brian and Maggie were $25,000 SHORT and begging for money like Pat Robertson on steroids
.
**********
From Brian:
.
"Today is the last day to help us reach our $100,000 fundraising goal for the 2014 March for Marriage
.
It's the end of the month and bills are coming due. Contracts have been signed that require payment in advance for logistics, equipment, consumables, travel arrangements, and many, many more critical details
.
We are still around $25,000 short of our $100,000 fundraising goal for this month"
**********
.
After they check for gas leaks; maybe they can light some candles to see their way out of the building before the bulldozers come ;)
We should flood them with donation checks for one cent. It would cost them more just to process them. LOL

Since: Sep 09

San Francisco, CA

#24 May 2, 2014
Maggie is the poster child for all of the Seven Deadly Sins and has no room to talk.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#25 May 2, 2014
Typical hypocrite that she is, she preaches about the "sanctity of marriage" yet she's divorced. Just like that orange juice lady that fled several states with unpaid employees and other people she owed money to chasing her.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#26 May 2, 2014
eJohn wrote:
Why can't they see that forcing others to adhere to their sense of morality is doing exactly the same thing that they're so fond of screaming and crying and throwing fits over when they're accusing everyone else of trampling on their religious freedoms?? Why is that so difficult for them to see? Chosen ignorance? Refusal to see anything from someone else's point of view? Total lack of any sense of empathy? Extreme insecurity? The need to be surrounded by people that agree with them even if they're being forced to "agree" with them?
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There are none so blind as those who will not see. It's all a choice. Their lives and beliefs cannot be justified until they can force others to live by those rules. Sad, but true. They must be truly empty inside.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#27 May 2, 2014
hi hi wrote:
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Agreed entirely.
The reason they think they can force you and you can't force them is that their received "list of beliefs" tells them they are correct, and you incorrect unless your beliefs match *exactly*.
I'm not taking any steam from your question. Nothing I just said lessens the impact, force or importance of your question one bit. In fact, I am simply explaining their viewpoint while vehemently agreeing with you: No matter *what* their "list of beliefs" is, LOGIC and HUMAN NATURE dictate what you have stated.
They talk or cry about being shamed or silenced. ISN'T IT FUNNY? It seems to be the only thing that shuts *some* of them up, when the alternative is their literal *harassment* of other individuals in ceaseless attempts to force them to adopt a hateful belief system.
Exactly. It's the fact that they remain so blind to them doing exactly what they complain others are doing to them is what I find so curious.

And the fact that their scriptures tell them that they're right and everyone else is wrong is no different that what all those other people are being told by THEIR scriptures (or personal beliefs, or both, as the case may be). So why is THAT so hard to digest???

Because they don't want to. They act just like spoiled children, stomping their feet and declaring themselves to be *RIGHT* and everyone else is *WRONG* and it's all SO UNFAIR!!!!

Which is why I generally pay as little attention to them as possible. For the same reason you don't try to negotiate with a two-year-old throwing a tantrum, you don't try to reason with the "religious". You'll actually get further with the two-year-old because two-year-olds can be bribed with ice cream.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#28 May 2, 2014
RalphB wrote:
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There are none so blind as those who will not see. It's all a choice. Their lives and beliefs cannot be justified until they can force others to live by those rules. Sad, but true. They must be truly empty inside.
Exactly. THEY actually DON'T believe what they're trying to pretend they believe. So the only way they can convince themselves that they're not complete idiots for believing something so ridiculous is by convincing OTHER PEOPLE to believe what they believe.

It's all about trying to deal with extreme insecurity and zero self-esteem. They actually do believe that they're idiots and worthless and clueless. They also believe that everyone else is of more value than they are. So if THOSE people all believe all this crap, than there MUST be some value to it. It's all about the fear of being alone in one's convictions.

Then all you have to do is introduce some MONEY into the mix and add a few smart people with zero scruples that are in need of some idiot cash and VOILA!! RELIGION!!!
Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#29 May 2, 2014
eJohn wrote:
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They act just like spoiled children
Their campaigns in the country of Africa [sic] show what we've known all along: They want lgbt permanently silenced, meaning in the optimal case for the talibangelicals, dead.

Children like that are rare.
Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Warrington, PA

#30 May 2, 2014
Even rethugs have realized that pandering to a bunch of 'religious' nutcases is losing elections. Normal Americans do not want these people dictating how people live their lives. They are free to practice their 'religion' as they wish but they do not have the right to impose it on others.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#33 May 2, 2014
mark in Toronto wrote:
Feels good when another bigot bites the big one.
Been wanting to mention this ...
I guess Topix is just going to leave that non-funtional "Ads by Zinc" thing in the left column. Does it work at all for anybody else?
All I get is a spinning 'loading' ball and the whole browser runs like syrup.(Maple flavour)
Love ya Topix, but Safari and Firefox both hate it.
Yes it sure does.
Maggie Gallagher

Sunnyvale, CA

#34 May 2, 2014
Rick Saintpornum wrote:
I think Maggie should open a Krispy Kreme franchise.
(In a state with no lgbt protections, natch. Or maybe in Brunei.)
Surely you jest. Have you seen how tiny their doughnuts are? When you have to scarf down three dozen to feel satisfied, it's just not worth it. Maybe I'll see if Bigoted Bovine BakersŪ wants to open more red-state or third-world locations. I do love them.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#35 May 3, 2014
eJohn wrote:
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Exactly. It's the fact that they remain so blind to them doing exactly what they complain others are doing to them is what I find so curious.
And the fact that their scriptures tell them that they're right and everyone else is wrong is no different that what all those other people are being told by THEIR scriptures (or personal beliefs, or both, as the case may be). So why is THAT so hard to digest???
Because they don't want to. They act just like spoiled children, stomping their feet and declaring themselves to be *RIGHT* and everyone else is *WRONG* and it's all SO UNFAIR!!!!
Which is why I generally pay as little attention to them as possible. For the same reason you don't try to negotiate with a two-year-old throwing a tantrum, you don't try to reason with the "religious". You'll actually get further with the two-year-old because two-year-olds can be bribed with ice cream.
In the final analysis, I think the one important thing you can make clear to them is that you *WON'T* be heeding a word they say. This is not terribly difficult to communicate, and I think it's a very, very important message. Because so many of the "religious" are so demonically hateful, I almost consider it a moral imperative (although I would never try to force others to do it, LOL).

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#36 May 3, 2014
hi hi wrote:
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In the final analysis, I think the one important thing you can make clear to them is that you *WON'T* be heeding a word they say. This is not terribly difficult to communicate, and I think it's a very, very important message. Because so many of the "religious" are so demonically hateful, I almost consider it a moral imperative (although I would never try to force others to do it, LOL).
Very true.

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