Right all but abandons fight after de...

Right all but abandons fight after decade of same-sex marriage

There are 34 comments on the SFGate story from May 2, 2014, titled Right all but abandons fight after decade of same-sex marriage. In it, SFGate reports that:

In an extraordinary post on her blog Thursday , Maggie Gallagher, a founder of the National Organization for Marriage , conceded that opponents of same-sex marriage "are in shock, they are awed by the powers now shutting down the debate and by our ineffectualness at responding to these developments."

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“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#1 May 2, 2014
Well Maggie, hate and donuts are your friend. All I can say is, "Let it go…let it go"……

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#2 May 2, 2014
A quick translation of Ms. Gallagher's post on her blog:

"Our donations are down, we have completely lost this war, and I have to find another way to bilk you out of your hard-earned cash. I suppose we will have to find another group to discriminate against so that I can continue to milk you for your money."

Since: Jul 09

Indy/Philly/Toronto

#3 May 2, 2014
Feels good when another bigot bites the big one.

Been wanting to mention this ...
I guess Topix is just going to leave that non-funtional "Ads by Zinc" thing in the left column. Does it work at all for anybody else?
All I get is a spinning 'loading' ball and the whole browser runs like syrup.(Maple flavour)
Love ya Topix, but Safari and Firefox both hate it.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#4 May 2, 2014
They'll just focus on a DIFFERENT way to discriminate against us- like in business.

I'm really amazed they can admit defeat publicly.

“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#5 May 2, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
They'll just focus on a DIFFERENT way to discriminate against us- like in business.
I'm really amazed they can admit defeat publicly.
Oh, one can easily read between the lines on her little statement. As long as they can sucker people to donate, they will work it from a different angle. It ain't over until that fat lady can't sing!!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#6 May 2, 2014
mark in Toronto wrote:
Feels good when another bigot bites the big one.
Been wanting to mention this ...
I guess Topix is just going to leave that non-funtional "Ads by Zinc" thing in the left column. Does it work at all for anybody else?
All I get is a spinning 'loading' ball and the whole browser runs like syrup.(Maple flavour)
Love ya Topix, but Safari and Firefox both hate it.
If you are using Firefox; you can put a stop to all the monkey motion and advertising clutter by downloading the free NoScript add-on
.
Go to 'tools'; 'add-ons'; 'get add-ons'; then search for NoScrpt and click install

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#7 May 2, 2014
NE Jade wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, one can easily read between the lines on her little statement. As long as they can sucker people to donate, they will work it from a different angle. It ain't over until that fat lady can't sing!!
Agreed.

Individuals or even businesses discriminating against us we can handle on a one-to-one basis. Our main concern should be getting nationwide government recognition of our marriages.

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

Since: Mar 07

Kansas City, MO.

#8 May 2, 2014
mark in Toronto wrote:
Feels good when another bigot bites the big one.
Been wanting to mention this ...
I guess Topix is just going to leave that non-funtional "Ads by Zinc" thing in the left column. Does it work at all for anybody else?
All I get is a spinning 'loading' ball and the whole browser runs like syrup.(Maple flavour)
Love ya Topix, but Safari and Firefox both hate it.
Know what you mean....that damn thing is always there. I don't click on the ads, I click on the X but nothing happens...comes right back. VERY annoying!

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#9 May 2, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are using Firefox; you can put a stop to all the monkey motion and advertising clutter by downloading the free NoScript add-on
.
Go to 'tools'; 'add-ons'; 'get add-ons'; then search for NoScrpt and click install
Kid, THANK YOU! I was seeing all the nuisance ads by Zinc just fine, but didn't want them and am relieved they're gone. Much appreciated, my friend!

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#10 May 2, 2014
mark in Toronto wrote:
Feels good when another bigot bites the big one.
Been wanting to mention this ...
I guess Topix is just going to leave that non-funtional "Ads by Zinc" thing in the left column. Does it work at all for anybody else?
All I get is a spinning 'loading' ball and the whole browser runs like syrup.(Maple flavour)
Love ya Topix, but Safari and Firefox both hate it.
Try AdFender. It's free and works great. You can read the CNet review here:

http://download.cnet.com/AdFender/3000-7786_4...

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#11 May 2, 2014
They STILL don't understand the difference between adhering to their own sense of Biblical morality and forcing everyone else to adhere to their own sense of Biblical morality. They just.... don't.... get it.

If someone believes that they need to cross themselves and do six jumping jacks after saying, "Mother May I?" before they sit down to a meal, who am I to complain about it? Knock yourself out! Do *TEN* jumping jacks if you want to. Go for it! I'll even be happy to *JOIN YOU* in said self-crossing and jumping jack activity should you invite me over to dinner at your house. No problem. I'll respect your traditions and your beliefs.

But do NOT expect *me* to do those things at *MY* house. At MY house, when we gather for a meal, we compliment the chef and we enjoy what is there, and if someone in attendance wants to jump up and down a few times and utter a magical incantation over their food before they eat it, they are most welcome to do so. We might even join them if the jumping up and down looks like fun. Or they may do it all by themselves. And either way is fine, too.

But the religionists and the Biblists aren't happy with that. They believe that they should be able to dictate what everyone else can and cannot do both inside and outside their own homes based solely on their own beliefs about what is right for them without any regard or consideration for what's best for those other people.

And that's just not on.

Why can't they see that forcing others to adhere to their sense of morality is doing exactly the same thing that they're so fond of screaming and crying and throwing fits over when they're accusing everyone else of trampling on their religious freedoms?? Why is that so difficult for them to see? Chosen ignorance? Refusal to see anything from someone else's point of view? Total lack of any sense of empathy? Extreme insecurity? The need to be surrounded by people that agree with them even if they're being forced to "agree" with them?

I don't know. But until they can figure out the difference between following and enjoying their OWN faith and forcing everyone else to follow it, too, they will ALWAYS lose every battle they create. People just don't like being told what to do, especially when the only basis for it is someone else's religion.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#12 May 2, 2014
Otter in the Ozarks wrote:
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Kid, THANK YOU! I was seeing all the nuisance ads by Zinc just fine, but didn't want them and am relieved they're gone. Much appreciated, my friend!
You're welcome ;)
.
Now when you open a web site you can click the 'options' button (usually in the bottom right corner) and allow whatever flash overlays YOU want to see and ban all the rest (either temporarily per session; or permanently)
.
If I remember correctly; you have to click the overlay that allows smileys; and allow the green reply notifier strip at the top of TOPIX pages

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#13 May 2, 2014
GoldenGator wrote:
<quoted text>
Try AdFender. It's free and works great. You can read the CNet review here:
http://download.cnet.com/AdFender/3000-7786_4...
I use Google Chrome and they have a plug in that's called Ad Blocker Plus........my computer was very happy now that I DON'T have to see those annoying ads and it runs a little faster....not much because of it's age....but better.....lol!!!
Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#14 May 2, 2014
I think Maggie should open a Krispy Kreme franchise.

(In a state with no lgbt protections, natch. Or maybe in Brunei.)
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#15 May 2, 2014
eJohn wrote:
They STILL don't understand the difference between adhering to their own sense of Biblical morality and forcing everyone else to adhere to their own sense of Biblical morality. They just.... don't.... get it.
If someone believes that they need to cross themselves and do six jumping jacks after saying, "Mother May I?" before they sit down to a meal, who am I to complain about it? Knock yourself out! Do *TEN* jumping jacks if you want to. Go for it! I'll even be happy to *JOIN YOU* in said self-crossing and jumping jack activity should you invite me over to dinner at your house. No problem. I'll respect your traditions and your beliefs.
But do NOT expect *me* to do those things at *MY* house. At MY house, when we gather for a meal, we compliment the chef and we enjoy what is there, and if someone in attendance wants to jump up and down a few times and utter a magical incantation over their food before they eat it, they are most welcome to do so. We might even join them if the jumping up and down looks like fun. Or they may do it all by themselves. And either way is fine, too.
But the religionists and the Biblists aren't happy with that. They believe that they should be able to dictate what everyone else can and cannot do both inside and outside their own homes based solely on their own beliefs about what is right for them without any regard or consideration for what's best for those other people.
And that's just not on.
Why can't they see that forcing others to adhere to their sense of morality is doing exactly the same thing that they're so fond of screaming and crying and throwing fits over when they're accusing everyone else of trampling on their religious freedoms?? Why is that so difficult for them to see? Chosen ignorance? Refusal to see anything from someone else's point of view? Total lack of any sense of empathy? Extreme insecurity? The need to be surrounded by people that agree with them even if they're being forced to "agree" with them?
I don't know. But until they can figure out the difference between following and enjoying their OWN faith and forcing everyone else to follow it, too, they will ALWAYS lose every battle they create. People just don't like being told what to do, especially when the only basis for it is someone else's religion.
Agreed entirely.

The reason they think they can force you and you can't force them is that their received "list of beliefs" tells them they are correct, and you incorrect unless your beliefs match *exactly*.

I'm not taking any steam from your question. Nothing I just said lessens the impact, force or importance of your question one bit. In fact, I am simply explaining their viewpoint while vehemently agreeing with you: No matter *what* their "list of beliefs" is, LOGIC and HUMAN NATURE dictate what you have stated.

They talk or cry about being shamed or silenced. ISN'T IT FUNNY? It seems to be the only thing that shuts *some* of them up, when the alternative is their literal *harassment* of other individuals in ceaseless attempts to force them to adopt a hateful belief system.
Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#16 May 2, 2014
"They are awed by the powers now shutting down the debate...."

Truly, the sexually sick homophobes are the _real_ victims here now that educated society properly mocks and disregards them. Sniffle.

Have another donut, Maggie. Just don't eat your whole store of them.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#17 May 2, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are using Firefox; you can put a stop to all the monkey motion and advertising clutter by downloading the free NoScript add-on
.
Go to 'tools'; 'add-ons'; 'get add-ons'; then search for NoScrpt and click install
I'm having that trouble using Google Chrome.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#18 May 2, 2014
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
I use Google Chrome and they have a plug in that's called Ad Blocker Plus........my computer was very happy now that I DON'T have to see those annoying ads and it runs a little faster....not much because of it's age....but better.....lol!!!
I just downloaded that and installed it. Seems to work much better now.

Thanks !

:)

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#19 May 2, 2014
So all 6 members of NOM are in shock now, huh ?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#20 May 2, 2014
Rick Saintpornum wrote:
I think Maggie should open a Krispy Kreme franchise.
(In a state with no lgbt protections, natch. Or maybe in Brunei.)
I was thinking (I know; lol) she would be a perfect 'eat mor chikin' COW in a Chik-fil-A ad
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