Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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concerned in Egypt

Europe

#20731 Feb 26, 2013
13.Salvation A."One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation," (Miracle of Forgiveness, by Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206).
B.A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus' plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to "deny men their agency and to dethrone god," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8).
C.Jesus' sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins,(murder and repeated adultery are exceptions),(Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).
D.Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, p. 92).
E.There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188).
F."The first effect [of the atonement] is to secure to all mankind alike, exemption from the penalty of the fall, thus providing a plan of General Salvation. The second effect is to open a way for Individual Salvation whereby mankind may secure remission of personal sins (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 78-79).
G."As these sins are the result of individual acts it is just that forgiveness for them should be conditioned on individual compliance with prescribed requirements --'obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel,'" (Articles of Faith, p. 79).
H."This grace is an enabling power that allows men and women to lay hold on eternal life and exaltation after they have expended their own best efforts," (LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 697).
I."We know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do," (2 Nephi 25:23).

14.Trinity, the A.The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. "That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).

Mormon beliefs are not in line with biblical truth. Because they teach things that are opposed to the word of God. It is clear that Mormonism is not Christian.
Father overtime

Salt Lake City, UT

#20732 Feb 26, 2013
Opinion above. Not truth.
concerned in Egypt

Europe

#20733 Feb 26, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
Opinion above. Not truth.
If you are seeking truth about the LDS Mormon Sect.
If you want access to verifiable footnoted sources that you can verify yourself
Then these sites all document their assertions with EVIDENCE Biblical Historical and verifiable.
Because the Truth Matters not vial name callers like father overtime.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.asp ...?
category=11&article=1221
http://www.leaderu.com/offices/michaeldavis/d ...
http://www.mrm.org/
http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/
http://www.utlm.org/
http://irr.org/
http://carm.org/
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/search/colle ...
http://www.spotlightministries.org.uk/index.h ...
CareEnougHToGoog LEiT

Yuba City, CA

#20734 Feb 26, 2013
CLAIMS OF UNDERSTANDING HEAVENLY FATHER, WHILE BLATANTLY DENYING ***ALL KNOWLEDGE of LEVIRATE MARRIAGE and LAW for nearly 4,000 YEARS: COMMANDMENT FROM G.O.D. H.I.M.S.E.L.F.***
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Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Carol, please show us one place in the Old Testament God commands the Israelite nation to practice polygamy. I'll wait.

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You claimed the Lord never commanded nor approved of polygamy.
I showed the world here you're a sociopath,
lying, simply because you can.
"The Lord never commanded polygamy."
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Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.
Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.
Elders also commanded, to try to talk men into it: and punish a man who won't.
Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:
her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.
25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,
"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."
25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;
25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,
***and spit in his face***,
and shall answer and say,
"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."
25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
==========
The LAW COMMANDS.
The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey
The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***
The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.
Satan possessed, family/heterosexuality-hating,
pathological liars,
will of course try yet to claim it isn't in their Bible.
As we see it is.
CareEnougHToGoog LEiT

Yuba City, CA

#20735 Feb 26, 2013
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text>
Again Dumb Dumb Jews practiced Idolatry for 4000 years as well, they practiced witchcraft, Remember the Story of Elijah.
That does not make it acceptable before God.
So again I do not dispute Jews practiced Polygamy and that is why so many times in the OT God brings his Judgement Upon the Jews allows them to be taken into slavery for being disobedient.
BUT NO WHERE DOES GOD COMMAND IT OR ENDORSE IT IN THE BIBLE.
NO THE BIBLE SPEAKS AGAINST IT AND SAYS IT ONLY LEADS TO FOLLY.
SO DUMB DUMB go have all the wives you like and receive your just dessert but it will not go well for you or the LDS on judgement day.
God Bless
Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.
Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.
Elders also commanded, to try to talk men into it: and punish a man who won't.
Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:
her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.
25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,
"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."
25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;
25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,
***and spit in his face***,
and shall answer and say,
"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."
25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
==========
The LAW COMMANDS.
The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey
The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***
The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.
Satan possessed, family hating,

pathological liars,

will of course try yet to claim it isn't in their Bible.

As we see it is.
CareEnougHToGoog LEiT

Yuba City, CA

#20736 Feb 26, 2013
concerned in Egypt wrote:
YadaYada God made me rebellious/possessed by Satan so it's okay.
You're an ignorant evil pornography addicted hick.
sickofit

Owatonna, MN

#20737 Feb 26, 2013
CareEnougHToGoogLEiT wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an ignorant evil pornography addicted hick.
Hey,.,.,.,.,.porn is fun...
concerned in Egypt

Europe

#20738 Feb 26, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
Opinion above. Not truth.
What Does Mormonism Teach?

And why is not a Christian faith.

1.Atonement A."Jesus paid for all our sins when He suffered in the Garden of Gethsemane," (Laurel Rohlfing,“Sharing Time: The Atonement,” Friend, Mar. 1989, p. 39.).
B."We accept Christ's atonement by repenting of our sins, being baptized, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost, and obeying all of the commandments," (Gospel Principles, Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1979, p. 68.).

2.Baptism A.Baptism for the dead,(Doctrines of Salvation, vol. II, p. 141). This is a practice of baptizing each other in place of non-Mormons who are now dead. Their belief is that in the afterlife, the "newly baptized" person will be able to enter into a higher level of Mormon heaven.

3.Bible A."We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly..." (8th Article of Faith of the Mormon Church).
B."Wherefore, thou seest that after the book hath gone forth through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and precious things taken away from the book, which is the book of the Lamb of God," (1 Nephi 13:28).

4.Book of Mormon A.The book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible,(History of the Church, 4:461).

Christians do not nor every have believe the above that is why Mormons are not Christians.
concerned in Egypt

Europe

#20739 Feb 26, 2013
CareEnougHToGoogLEiT wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an ignorant evil pornography addicted hick.
5.Devil, the A.The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus "in the morning of pre-existence," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).
B.Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both,(Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).
C.A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus' plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to "deny men their agency and to dethrone god," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8).

6.God A.God used to be a man on another planet,(Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
B."The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s..." (D&C 130:22).
C.God is in the form of a man,(Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).
D."God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!!... We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see," (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).
E.God the Father had a Father,(Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104-105).
F.God resides near a star called Kolob,(Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428).
G.God had sexual relations with Mary to make the body of Jesus,(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, 1857, p. 218; vol. 8, p. 115).- This one is disputed among many Mormons and not always 'officially' taught and believed. Nevertheless, Young, the 2nd prophet of the Mormon church taught it.
H."Therefore we know that both the Father and the Son are in form and stature perfect men; each of them possesses a tangible body ... of flesh and bones." (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 38).

7.God, becoming a god A.After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god,(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354.)
B."Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them," (D&C 132:20).

Again the Above Christians in 33AD never believed nor do Christians today and that is why Mormons are not Chrisitans.
concerned in Egypt

Europe

#20740 Feb 26, 2013
CareEnougHToGoogLEiT wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an ignorant evil pornography addicted hick.
8.God, many gods A.There are many gods,(Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).
B."And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light: and there was light," (Book of Abraham 4:3).

9.God, mother goddess A.There is a mother god,(Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).
B.God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children,(Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).

10.God, Trinity A.The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. "That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).

11.Gospel, the A.The true gospel was lost from the earth. Mormonism is its restoration,(Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 182-185.)
B.Consists of laws and ordinances: "As these sins are the result of individual acts it is just that forgiveness for them should be conditioned on individual compliance with prescribed requirements --'obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel,'" (Articles of Faith, p. 79)

12.Heaven A.There are three levels of heaven: telestial, terrestrial, and celestial,(Mormon Doctrine, p. 348).

13.Holy Ghost, the A.The Holy Ghost is a male personage, A Marvelous Work and a Wonder,(Le Grand Richards, Salt Lake City, 1956, p. 118; Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 179).

14.Jesus A.The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus,(Mormon Doctrine, p. 129).
B.Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both,(Mormon Doctrine, p. 163; Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15).
C.Jesus' sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins,(murder and repeated adultery are exceptions),(Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).
D."Therefore we know that both the Father and the Son are in form and stature perfect men; each of them possesses a tangible body ... of flesh and bones," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 38).
E."The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood - was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115).
F."Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers," (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, p. 547).
G."Christ Not Begotten of Holy Ghost ...Christ was begotten of God. He was not born without the aid of Man, and that Man was God!" (Doctrines of Salvation, by Joseph Fielding Smith, 1954, 1:18).
H."Elohim is literally the Father of the spirit of Jesus Christ and also of the body in which Jesus Christ performed His mission in the flesh..." (First Presidency and Council of the Twelve, 1916, "God the Father," compiled by Gordon Allred, p. 150).

Again the Above Christians in 33AD never believed nor do Christians today and that is why Mormons are not Chrisitans.
CareEnougHTo GoogLE iT

Yuba City, CA

#20741 Feb 26, 2013
sickofit wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey,.,.,.,.,.porn is fun...
It's fun when your churches have a 50% divorce rate,
and 50% of your women are raped and molested in their lives,
and when 50% of you as husbands admit adultery on your wives, too:
isn't it, you evil molester
It's fun when 50% of your women are on hard pharmaceuticals to try to shut out the pain of being amid you, too, isn't it.
Ask them.
Oh yeah that's right; they already spoke when they decided they'd rather be too high to remember.
It's fun when 30% of your men are raped and molested in their lives, too, isn't it?
If you don't think what the current generation of people is doing anything to further their character, it's because they've all become pleasure seeking zombies who follow Satan.
You don't have to follow this world down the black hole of being a divorced, Satanic addict.
Mormon.org
concerned in Egypt

Europe

#20742 Feb 26, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
Opinion above. Not truth.
15.Joseph Smith A.If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation [the context is the full gospel including exaltation to Godhood] outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,(Mormon Doctrine, p. 670).

16.Pre-existence A.We were first begotten as spirit children in heaven and then born naturally on earth,(Journal of Discourse, vol. 4, p. 218).
B.The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus,(Mormon Doctrine, p. 129).
C.The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus "in the morning of pre-existence," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).

Again the Above Christians in 33AD never believed nor do Christians today and that is why Mormons are not Chrisitans

17.Prophets A.We need prophets today, the same as in the Old Testament,(Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 444-445).

18.Salvation A."One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation," (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206).
B.A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus' plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to "deny men their agency and to dethrone god," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8).
C.Jesus' sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins,(murder and repeated adultery are exceptions),(Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).
D.Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 92).
E.There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188).
F."The first effect [of the atonement] is to secure to all mankind alike, exemption from the penalty of the fall, thus providing a plan of General Salvation. The second effect is to open a way for Individual Salvation whereby mankind may secure remission of personal sins (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 78-79).
G."As these sins are the result of individual acts it is just that forgiveness for them should be conditioned on individual compliance with prescribed requirements --'obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel,'" (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 79).
H."This grace is an enabling power that allows men and women to lay hold on eternal life and exaltation after they have expended their own best efforts," (LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 697).
I."We know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do," (2 Nephi 25:23).

19.Trinity, the A.The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. "That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35.).
B."Many men say there is one God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are only one God. I say that is a strange God [anyhow]--three in one and one in three...It is curious organization… All are crammed into one God according to sectarianism (Christian faith). It would make the biggest God in all the world. He would be a wonderfully big God--he would be a giant or a monster," (Joseph Smith, Teachings, p. 372).

Some Mormons may disagree with a few of the points listed on this page, but all of what is stated here is from Mormon authors in good standing of the Mormon church.
concerned in Egypt

Europe

#20743 Feb 26, 2013
CareEnougHToGoogLEiT wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an ignorant evil pornography addicted hick.
f you are seeking truth about the LDS Mormon Sect.
If you want access to verifiable footnoted sources that you can verify yourself
Then these sites all document their assertions with EVIDENCE Biblical Historical and verifiable.
Because the Truth Matters not vial name callers.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.asp ...?
category=11&article=1221
http://www.leaderu.com/offices/michaeldavis/d ...
http://www.mrm.org/
http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/
http://www.utlm.org/
http://irr.org/
http://carm.org/
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/search/colle ...
http://www.spotlightministries.org.uk/index.h ...
concerned in Egypt

Europe

#20744 Feb 26, 2013
Opinion above 100% True.

Name calling won't change that.
Verifiable and Biblical and Historical.
Truth Matters
sickofit

Owatonna, MN

#20745 Feb 26, 2013
CareEnougHTo GoogLE iT wrote:
<quoted text>
It's fun when your churches have a 50% divorce rate,
and 50% of your women are raped and molested in their lives,
and when 50% of you as husbands admit adultery on your wives, too:
isn't it, you evil molester
It's fun when 50% of your women are on hard pharmaceuticals to try to shut out the pain of being amid you, too, isn't it.
Ask them.
Oh yeah that's right; they already spoke when they decided they'd rather be too high to remember.
It's fun when 30% of your men are raped and molested in their lives, too, isn't it?
If you don't think what the current generation of people is doing anything to further their character, it's because they've all become pleasure seeking zombies who follow Satan.
You don't have to follow this world down the black hole of being a divorced, Satanic addict.
Mormon.org
Your insane. There is no god or satan.....So sit down shut up and let people live there lives hitler.
CareEnoughToGoog Leit

Yuba City, CA

#20746 Feb 26, 2013
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text>
Again Dumb Dumb Jews practiced Idolatry for 4000 years as well, they practiced witchcraft, Remember the Story of Elijah.
That does not make it acceptable before God.
So again I do not dispute Jews practiced Polygamy and that is why so many times in the OT God brings his Judgement Upon the Jews allows them to be taken into slavery for being disobedient.
BUT NO WHERE DOES GOD COMMAND IT OR ENDORSE IT IN THE BIBLE.
NO THE BIBLE SPEAKS AGAINST IT AND SAYS IT ONLY LEADS TO FOLLY.
SO DUMB DUMB go have all the wives you like and receive your just dessert but it will not go well for you or the LDS on judgement day.
God Bless

Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.
Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.
Elders also commanded, to try to talk men into it: and punish a man who won't.
Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:
her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.
25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,
"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."
25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;
25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,
***and spit in his face***,
and shall answer and say,
"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."
25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
==========
The LAW COMMANDS.
The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey
The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***
The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.

==========

I told everyone I'd show you to be a lying sociopath with offhand ease.

You're so Satan possessed you deny what it takes thirty seconds to check googling "Levirate Marriage & Law."

That goes with being an uneducated, pornography addicted, Satanic hick, in the Canadian sticks.

If you wonder what makes people like him melt down online, in front of hundreds of people, you should know why Satan hates us so much.

Mormon.org
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#20748 Feb 26, 2013
CareEnoughToGoogLeit wrote:
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text>
..........cur do all if it being SPAM......org
Got nothing new dumb dumb leave the Truth to the Christians will make sure it gets posted.

Do Christians Need “Additional Scripture”?
AS Mormons claim.

For many people who claim to be Christians, the Bible is not enough. Supposedly, it is not sufficient revelation. It does not give us enough information. These individuals seek additional works of inspiration. Either they want direct revelation from the Holy Spirit, or they want some kind of additional inspired work from God. In a recent Bible study with two gentlemen who claimed to believe in the divine inspiration of both the Bible and the Book of Mormon, one of the men made the statement:“God wanted us to have…additional Scripture.” That is, allegedly God wanted us to have more than just the Bible. This gentleman then followed up this assertion by saying that it is “unfair to just choose one.”

Is it really “unfair” to believe only the Bible is inspired? Is it inappropriate to tell individuals who advocate additional Scripture that the Bible is the only inspired, written revelation for man? Does God really want us to have “additional Scripture”?

Almighty God has the power and authority to communicate with man in whatever way and however often He chooses. But these questions must be answered in light of what God said He did, and not what man might surmise God could do. A thorough study of the New Testament reveals that what God said He did (through His inspired writers—2 Peter 1:20-21) was give mankind (some 1,900 years ago) all the revelation he needed to live a faithful Christian life.

he Bible indicates that all truth necessary for salvation was revealed during the lifetime of the apostles. The night before Jesus’ crucifixion, He promised His apostles that after His departure from them, the Spirit would come and guide them “into all truth”(John 16:13, emp. added), teaching them “all things,” and bringing to their remembrance “all things” that Jesus taught them (John 14:26, emp. added). After His crucifixion and resurrection (but before He ascended into heaven), Jesus then commanded these same disciples to “make disciples of all the nations…teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you”(Matthew 28:19-20, emp. added). The fact is,“the faith…was once for all delivered to the saints” in the first century (Jude 3, emp. added), so that since that time Christians have had “all things that pertain to life and godliness”(2 Peter 1:3, emp. added). Since then,“the man of God” has been “complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work”(2 Timothy 3:16-17, emp. added).

Indeed, hearing God’s will in the 21st century is as easy as picking up the providentially preserved Bible and reading what Jesus’ apostles and prophets recorded for our benefit (cf. Ephesians 3:1-5). No modern-day messages, dreams, visions, or “additional Scripture” are needed. Christians should be content with the powerful “sword of the Spirit”(Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12) and be warned to “not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world”(1 John 4:1).

I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed (Galatians 1:8-9).

No we don't need any Additional scripture the Bible says so and that again is why Mormons are not Christians.

This truth and many more can be found at

http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.asp...
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#20749 Feb 26, 2013
"CareEnoughToGoogLeit "] WROTE IN LOWER CASE

MY RESPONSE TO THE THREAD IN CAPITALS.

Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.
Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.
Elders also commanded, to try to talk men into it: and punish a man who won't.

PLEASE READ WHAT DUMB DUMB POSTED. THE ABOVE HAS NO BIBLICAL EVIDECE VERSE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

BECAUSE THE COMMAND TO MARRY WAS NOT TO MARRY MORE THAN ONCE BUT TO MARRY. BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLE.

Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:
her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.
25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,
"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."
25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;
25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,
***and spit in his face***,
and shall answer and say,
"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."
25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.

I AGAIN POINT OUT THAT THIS IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE AS THERE IS FOR LYING AND FOR KILLING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING LIKE IN THE CASE OF SELF DEFEENCE.

PLEASE NOTICE ABOVE IT CONCERNS BROTHERS.

JOSEPH SMITH DID NOT MARRY HIS BORTHERS WIFES NOR DID BRIGHAM YOUNG.
JOSEPH SMITH DID NO LIVE WITH HIS WIFES PREVIOUSLY AS THE TEXT SAYS MUST BE "THE MUST DWELL TOGETHER"

SO EVEN IF THIS LAW WAS STILL IN EFFECT IN NEVER COULD HAVE APPLEID TO MORMONS.

BUT THIS LAW IS NOT IN EFFECT ANYMORE WE AS TRUE CHRISTIANS ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE LAW BUT GRACE AND THE TEACHINGS OF THE NEW COVEANT WHICH CALLS US TO BE OF ONE WIFE AND IF WE ARE NOT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE CHIRSTIAN ELDERS AND J.S. AND B.Y BOTH CONTRADICTED THIS NT COMMAND. THUS WERE NEVER CHRISTIAN.

The LAW COMMANDS. US TO BE OF ONE WIFE AS THE NT COMMANDS

The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey AND TELL THEM THEY CAN NEVER BE ELDEERS AND ARE NOT CHRISTIANS AS THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST JESUS

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I told everyone I'd show you to be a lying sociopath with offhand ease.

YES YOU DID AND ALL YOU ACCOMPLISHED WAS TO SHOW YOU ARE DUMB DUMB AND NEVER REALLY READ ALL THE BIBLE AND COMPREHENDED IT.

You're so Satan possessed you deny what it takes thirty seconds to check googling "Levirate Marriage & Law."

WOW ALL SHOULD BE VERY CAUTIOUS OF YOU AND AVOID YOU AS YOUR SOURCE OF TRUTH IS NEVER WHAT JESUS AND HIS APOSTLES TAUGHT YOU APPEAL TO LEVITICAL LAW THAT JESUS DECLARED FINISHED ON THE CROSS.

That goes with being an uneducated, pornography addicted, Satanic hick, in the Canadian sticks.

WELL THIS STATEMENT YOU HAVE REPEATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST PROVES YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN FOR SURE AND A POOR MORMON TO BOOT.

If you wonder what makes people like him melt down online, in front of hundreds of people, you should know why Satan hates us so much.

THIS STATEMENT JUST SHOWS YOU ARE UTTERLY CLUELESS ON HOW TO DEFEND YOUR FAITH.

I DID NOT POST THIS THINKING YOU WOULD CHANGE THAT WILL TAKE AN ACT OF GOD. HOWEVER YOUR HELP IN SHOWING SEEKERS THAT THE LDS FAITH IS NOT CHRISTIAN IS APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU AGAIN

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#20750 Feb 26, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact the there is NO original manuscript makes the BoM unreliable. There isn't any Bible scholar that would claim the BoM is reliable. We have not one single golden plate written by the prophets of the BoM or their scribes. We also can't find even one city of the BoM on the map, like we can the cities of the Bible. We can't find any of the Nephite armour. Their coins, their swords like we can the lisrraelites. You don't make outragious claims and or lies if truth really matters.
Actually that is true as far as having the plates the BOM was translated from goes. And the same goes for the Bible. Regardless if persons, places and events were substantiated by science for both books and just not the Bible, both books are founded on a being that we have no way of proving actually exists. So both books are just good reads for fictional settings if you wish to state it that way.
But both books if one wishes to improve one's morals, both books can be of good use. But if you wish to show how mean and barbaric people can be, they can be used there also. If you don't believe in God, either book can lead one to believing in God like the Koran also does.
By the way, finding the name of a city or coin or the name of people and places in the BOM won't prove it true any more than those things have proved the Bible to be true.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#20751 Feb 26, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
A bunch of BS that only proves that God didn't curse people with dark skin, and that dark skin isn't a curse. Can you ever find anything relevant to the topic, or is all your evidence BS like this?
Actually the BS comes from you. You are the one specifying what God would or wouldn't do. We know God cursed people from one generation to the next. We know God didn't forbid a servant/prophet/leader to curse a relative and all their descendants to slavery. He allowed that curse to happen. God made a curse once that the sins of the fathers would visit their children.
God has shown he can curse any curse he wants to make a curse about, that is what God has proven. He also has proved he'll allow certain leaders to curse others and supports that curse.
Your're the one that wants to believe what God wouldn't do that you think he shouldn't and or wouldn't do. Last time I read the Bible, I never saw a verse where a person told God what he could do or wouldn't do who didn't live to regret that statement.
What you believe is one thing.
Telling God what he wouldn't do or could do, that's a bit ballsy and most live to regret having stated such a thing to him.
By the way, I have no idea what that curse was. Christians taught it was a dark skin curse for centuries. It's really not that important of an issue for me. Maybe if we lived when owing slaves was legal this would be a very debatable topic. But we don't live in that age. And even Mormon historians have no idea where the prohibition for dark skinned males to be denied the priesthood began of who it began with.
Looking at it from the Mormon perspective, consider this for a moment even if you disbelieve it.
If it was a prophecy that one day descendants of Ham would have the priesthood because Noah took it from that lineage, for that prophecy to come true, there would have to be a situation where God's church existed and dark skinned males were being denied the priesthood in order for that denial to be removed and them than allowed to finally have the priesthood again to fulfil that prophecy. Just saying...

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